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petros

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Quoting Colpy
Damn, we've been through all this crap before!

Go looking for the old threads on 9-11.

I haven't the patience to spoon feed the conspiracy theorists.......who can't be convinced by evidence anyway......simply because if the attacks did happen in the claimed fashion, their entire house-of-cards belief system collapses.

Its foundation is that the west in general, and the USA in particular is evil.....

Cultural suicide.

Idiocy.
A whole new group has just joined so this is new to them on THIS forum.


The denial of reality is still fresh and those who have parished deverse to have the righful perpeTRAITORs convicted. 80% of suvivors and the families of those who were lost started this entire truth movement.

Why are the very people most affected by this ridiculed and scorned? They were there and they want and deserve a proper investigation. Why are the surviving victims the ones leading the pack?
 

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The denial of reality is still fresh and those who have parished deverse to have the righful perpeTRAITORs convicted. 80% of suvivors and the families of those who were lost started this entire truth movement.

Why are the very people most affected by this ridiculed and scorned? They were there and they want and deserve a proper investigation. Why are the surviving victims the ones leading the pack?

By proper investigation you mean an investigation that says what you want it to say is that true?

Any investigation that says that 9/11 was perpetrated by Al-Queda would not be accepted by you and you know it.
 

lone wolf

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By proper investigation you mean an investigation that says what you want it to say is that true?

Any investigation that says that 9/11 was perpetrated by Al-Queda would not be accepted by you and you know it.

How can there ever be an investigation when all the debris have become bow castings for new ships and recycled metal and anything that can be falsified has been?
 

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How can there ever be an investigation when all the debris have become bow castings for new ships and recycled metal and anything that can be falsified has been?

Well then it will ALWAYS be a conspiracy for some folks then. That makes them happy I am sure.
 

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Did I say conspiracy? The whole thing will always be suspicious because it was swept under the carpet and smoke-screened so fast. There will always be the gullible too....

I honestly don't know where you fall on the 9/11 events. If you think it was an inside job than you believe it was a conspiracy.

I disagree. It was damning to both the Clinton and Bush Administrations as to how they ignored the warning signs and intelligence.
 

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For the Nth time.....it was impossible for the WTC to be brought down by CD (Controlled Demolition) for the simple reason that there are only a small handful of companies that do that sort of work, very few people with the expertise to pull off ANY CD

Far out...an Al CIAda operative on TV making a claim of another attack and isn't in GITMO? How the hell did that happen? Gullible, absolutely gullible.

Who says it was explosives? Are we not living in a world that has progressed beyond explosives to alter matter? How many ways can you boil water without using fire?


Here is a video that aired July 25th 2001 that warns of the attack and even goes as far to name bin Laden as the patsy.


Try your hardest to debunk this which will be an absolutely impossible task. I'll even go as far as offering a g-note to anyone who can. Anyone else care to put their money where there mouth is?


YouTube - Alex Jones Predicts 911

It's Alex Jones and INFOWARS for CRYING OUT LOUD!
 

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Who went in to plant the charges, considering the time it takes, how did no one in the building notice. You know, the people who later ended up either dying or having their friends die as they fled.


If you were paying attention to the big picture you'd know that "security teams" and "electricians" were in and out of the building for weeks prior to the event. They even went as far a complete downdown of the entire building for a full weekend. Why are you just learning this now?

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16,000 man hours......that is 20 men working full time for 20 weeks.

That is what it took to prepare a building 1/3 the height of ONE of the towers. That does not include investigation. So you can at least double the time necessary.

That DOES include gutting the building, cutting beams, running 36,000 feet of det cord, plantin a ton and a half of explosives..........all in the open.

Imagine trying to do that WITHOUT tearing the insides of the building out. And in secret.......and where do you find the dozens, if not hundreds of men willing, trained and able??????

Without so much as a leak.

The entire idea is beyond comprehension.....it is completely ludicrous.......THINK man!
 

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Nope Colpy...the CIA and FBI blew it up and that is that. Not a one has spoken about it because they all thought it was such a wonderful idea to kill thousands of Americans. They still think that to this day as not one of the THOUSANDS of people needed to pull off 9/11 has spoken out. Not one has said...

"I was with the CIA and we did it...we BLEEPING took those building down with explosives for the greater good of the NWO."

They were able to do ALL of that without disturbing anyone. Not one thing was out of place after working. After each evening walls were patched up and painted to match the exact color for 110 floors in three buildings. Not a ceiling tile was out of place. Clean up was impeccable. Welding, planting explosives, cutting, det cord, all done after hours.

Do these folks even think those were real planes that flew into the building?
 

lone wolf

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I honestly don't know where you fall on the 9/11 events. If you think it was an inside job than you believe it was a conspiracy.

I disagree. It was damning to both the Clinton and Bush Administrations as to how they ignored the warning signs and intelligence.

Look ... even if I don't believe it was an inside job, it's still a conspiracy. Too many people are denying there were warning signs and intel. Too many people believe it's possible for four airplanes to drop from radar screens then re-emerge as rogue - sans transponder data. Too many people deny responsibility in allowing those four airplanes to jink all over the sky in the most tightly controlled airspace in the world. There will always be a lot of things that just don't add up ... and even more that won't fit into that neat little bundle your government fed you in too short a time for any investigation to be carried out. Your great United States just aren't that smart ... just quick on the draw.
 

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Look ... even if I don't believe it was an inside job, it's still a conspiracy. Too many people are denying there were warning signs and intel. Too many people believe it's possible for four airplanes to drop from radar screens then re-emerge as rogue - sans transponder data. Too many people deny responsibility in allowing those four airplanes to jink all over the sky in the most tightly controlled airspace in the world. There will always be a lot of things that just don't add up ... and even more that won't fit into that neat little bundle your government fed you in too short a time for any investigation to be carried out. Your great United States just aren't that smart ... just quick on the draw.

Hey I agree. There were all kinds of finger pointing and blaming. Nobody wanted to hold that bag. But I wouldn't call it a conspiracy. The four planes were hijacked and the transponders were turned off. It was not as if they dissapeared. I do not think the report was a neat little bundle and there probably after the fact should have been more blame to go around that was not picked up in the first go around. Mistakes were made before, during and after.
 

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Can any of you who believe your government as if they are god tell me why there is absolutely no debris at the Pentagon? No wings, tail section, engines, etc. Why the whole in the building was about the size of a Piper Cub instead of a passenger airliner? Why the twin towers were the only buildings to be downed by fire when so many others that were hit by airplanes and burned for much longer never fell? why two buildings that were designed to take twice the impact they took, fell so quickly or why they free fell with no resistance at the same speed as a safe?

Too many questions that have never even been attempted to answer. Like, the new owner buys them just a couple of months previous, insures them for far beyond the value just weeks before and then makes a huge profit from the deaths of 3000 people who work in them. Why Building 7 was "pulled" when it just had a few small fires in it?

Do you guys work for the CIA or Secret Service? Or do you like the smell in there?
 

Zzarchov

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Can any of you who believe your government as if they are god tell me why there is absolutely no debris at the Pentagon? No wings, tail section, engines, etc. Why the whole in the building was about the size of a Piper Cub instead of a passenger airliner? Why the twin towers were the only buildings to be downed by fire when so many others that were hit by airplanes and burned for much longer never fell? why two buildings that were designed to take twice the impact they took, fell so quickly or why they free fell with no resistance at the same speed as a safe?

Too many questions that have never even been attempted to answer. Like, the new owner buys them just a couple of months previous, insures them for far beyond the value just weeks before and then makes a huge profit from the deaths of 3000 people who work in them. Why Building 7 was "pulled" when it just had a few small fires in it?

Do you guys work for the CIA or Secret Service? Or do you like the smell in there?

You know all of those have been answered right?

I also think its funny you bring up the engineers design of the two towers, then ignore those same engineers when they discuss why it collapsed. Everything has been gone over by scores of independant engineers.

this makes me laugh the most
"why they free fell with no resistance at the same speed as a safe?"

His name was Galileo. You should read up on him, its covered in 4th grade. I'd avoid appearing on any gameshows with Jeff Foxworthy.
 

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So how are things going in India? Anyone feel the need to go and reason with these Islamofacist terrorists? Beave, Scratch?
 

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So how are things going in India? Anyone feel the need to go and reason with these Islamofacist terrorists? Beave, Scratch?

Oh yes!

I'm sure we could negotiate with them......a promise here, a kiss there, a pat on the head, a lovely sing-a-long, then all would be groovy.

Perhaps we could promise them a steady supply of hydrolic acid.....you know, to throw in the faces of young girls that dare to try and get an education.
 

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So how are things going in India? Anyone feel the need to go and reason with these Islamofacist terrorists? Beave, Scratch?
Didn't India just get the nod not to have any more inspections of the nuclear plants? (as part of a larger deal which wasn't all above board as it was a concession)