What are we doing in Afghanistan?

EagleSmack

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Eagle,

Why did we have to invade Afghanistan again?

scratch,

Which 50 is which?

Oh no reason Cliffy...none at all. We just wanted to take all their oil and stuff and just be evil. It is part of our plan to take over the world.
 

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The NWO...oh yeah. Part of our BIG plan for world dominance. I can't wait until we reestablish Bush as the new Emperor for life.
 

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If Bush is named Emperor of the Pax Americana, he will need more than 150 000 bucks for his new clothes. Right now he is buck naked!

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Why is it every time someone says "New World order," I hear the march of hobnailed boots?! Ahhh, the Great Game! Someone had to sub in when Britain was injured on the playing field!
 

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Emperor, Czar...whatever. He's Bush and he will Rule for 1000 years. You can count on it. But first we have to get those pesky Canadians out of the way. They are far too tricky and know WAY too much of our plans.
 

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EagleSmack:

Ah, we're too scattered. We live in the second largest country on this planet. You'll never catch us all! We'll hide when you seek!

Look, a ten tonne asteroid fragment blazed over our western provinces and no one has found it yet. Now meteorites sell for $1000 CDN per gram. So, I'm off to look for it this afternoon. I figure it'll fetch $10 000 000 000.00 CDN. With that sum, I intend to purchase not just Louisiana and Alaska, but the entire USA. It will become our eleventh province! Mind you, I may break it up, as would any good vulture-fund manager, and sell bits back to Britain, France, Mexico/Spain , and Russia.

Your northern cousin,
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Unforgiven

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With all due respect to you,

Get the Alliance out of there and let the Israelis with their superior intel, superior weaponry, stealth ability, knowledge of the region and their ability to blend in without be detected as their secret service no doubt can do as they speak the language, don't stick out like British troops in their red uniforms and problem solved.

They have been supported for many years monetarily by a foreign power, now its time to step up to the plate.

This is never going to end and probably those occupiers do not want it to end.

Just an observation.
rgs

I see you're a man who likes to do a little thinking. With all due respect to you.

Do you mean the Northern Alliance?

The Isralis don't have superior anything to the US Military. As for intel, I doubt Mossad is much different than the US or Britain's intel gathering systems.

Further, it doesn't make a lot of sense to clear out all the military so that the Afghan military can do what ISAF is having a difficult time doing now. After all, the Taliban controlled Afghanistan before and that is what got the whole mess started in the first place. How can it be expected to do so now?

As an aside, it would be helpful to me if you could be specific about who you are referring to.
Cheers.
 

Unforgiven

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That you don't agree has been clear from the outset. But you haven't posted a viable alternative to war.

PEACE!If we stopped interfering in other peoples business, they wouldn't be PO'd at us. There is always someone who starts a war, and Afghanistan was started by the US and and their phony Coalition of the willing. We invaded their country. They will not stop until we get out. Why is this so hard to understand.

I agree that there has to be a major change in foreign policy from the US and Britain. No argument there. But there is more to it than that. There are people just like those in the US and other countries, our own as well that want to cause problems. And when they do, it has to be addressed. Just as locally crime must be addressed. In some places the police force is no match. So the alternative is to turn away or to fight for them and along side them.

In Afghanistan, Al Qeada was a welcome guest. They trained I believe it was 18 of the 20 terrorists who acted on 9/11 in training camps in Afghanistan with the Taliban's grace.
The war in Afghanistan was not started until after they struck. So to say that it was started by the US invading Afghanistan shows a lack of understanding as to the events that led up to the war.

If someone has a beef with American military, attack the military. But you don't go and target civilians if you can help it. And 9/11 wasn't a misguided attempt to strike at American military. And if you feel it's alright to target civilians, then what are you bitching about Afghanistan?
 
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What are we doing in Afghanistan? Sweet nothing....... just wasting our young men and women..

From Kipling's "The Young British Soldier"

Quote:
When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
So-oldier _of_ the Queen!
 

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The war in Afghanistan was not started until after they struck.
Again, Unforgiven,You must get your news from the CNN, the official mouthpiece of Bush and Co. I know what happened on 911. I watched it and I came to the conclusion right then and there that it was an inside job; a false flag operation. The evidence is incontrovertible as far as I'm concerned and if that makes me a nut case in your eyes, well, back at ya.

I don't believe anything political and military leaders say because they are incapable of telling the truth.
 

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The war in Afghanistan was not started until after they struck.
Again, Unforgiven,You must get your news from the CNN, the official mouthpiece of Bush and Co. I know what happened on 911. I watched it and I came to the conclusion right then and there that it was an inside job; a false flag operation. The evidence is incontrovertible as far as I'm concerned and if that makes me a nut case in your eyes, well, back at ya.

I don't believe anything political and military leaders say because they are incapable of telling the truth.

Boy oh Boy have you come to the right place!

Another TRUTHER! Another Conspiracist!

You knew it from the beginning didn't ya? I bet you did. Before the buildings had fallen you JUST knew it!

Another person to grind out every thread into a conspiracy. To squelch every meaningful debate with "9/11 was an inside job and I will NEVER be moved from that! Ever! EVER!"

Have you met Logic7 yet? He says the planes that supposedly hit the WTC towers were actually holograms. Do you agree?

False Flag Ops... you've got ALL the right BUZZ words.
 

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You knew it from the beginning didn't ya? I bet you did. Before the buildings had fallen you JUST knew it!

No, when the first tower fell straight down I thought it suspicious. When the second one went straight down, then I knew for sure. It was a demolition. Watch the movie Wag the Dog. It explains False Flag Ops in terms that even you might understand. Google False Flag Operations and see all the incidences of them in history.
 

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The war in Afghanistan was not started until after they struck.
Again, Unforgiven,You must get your news from the CNN, the official mouthpiece of Bush and Co. I know what happened on 911. I watched it and I came to the conclusion right then and there that it was an inside job; a false flag operation. The evidence is incontrovertible as far as I'm concerned and if that makes me a nut case in your eyes, well, back at ya.

I don't believe anything political and military leaders say because they are incapable of telling the truth.

I think this should answer whats wrong in that belief.

YouTube - The Onion: '9/11 Conspiracy Theories Ridiculous' - Al Qaeda
 

EagleSmack

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You knew it from the beginning didn't ya? I bet you did. Before the buildings had fallen you JUST knew it!

No, when the first tower fell straight down I thought it suspicious. When the second one went straight down, then I knew for sure. It was a demolition. Watch the movie Wag the Dog. It explains False Flag Ops in terms that even you might understand. Google False Flag Operations and see all the incidences of them in history.

Even me Cliffy! Even me! Do you think so! I should watch a fictional movie from Hollywood and it will explain everything? Oh thank you!

Perhaps I should watch a Marine movie and they will show me the proper way that I should have worn my uniform and rules and regulations. Things like "Code Reds" and that all you have to do is toss your dog tags to a CO and you are out of the USMC. And that when an invading alien ship comes all you have to do is wait for them to shoot that Bluish Greenish ray thingy and hit it with a missle and it will blow up!

I prefer to get EVERY bit of information from places like Global Research and from enlightened folks like you.
 

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OK, I concede. I don't know your life experience or what you've gleaned from it. I know what I saw. I gave my opinion of it. You want to get all sarcastic about it, that is your right. It is also my right to ignore you.
 
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You knew it from the beginning didn't ya? I bet you did. Before the buildings had fallen you JUST knew it!

No, when the first tower fell straight down I thought it suspicious. When the second one went straight down, then I knew for sure. It was a demolition. Watch the movie Wag the Dog. It explains False Flag Ops in terms that even you might understand. Google False Flag Operations and see all the incidences of them in history.

(sigh)

If you just KNEW it, I would advise you to consult a psychiatrist.

For the Nth time.....it was impossible for the WTC to be brought down by CD (Controled Demolition) for the simple reason that there are only a small handful of companies that do that sort of work, very few people with the expertise to pull off ANY CD, and finally, over-whelmingly, CD requires tens of thousands of man-hours of preparation, the complete gutting of the building involved, thousands of pounds of explosive...........and the largest building ever destroyed by CD was less the one-third the height of one of the two towers.
Controlled Demolition, Inc. | Press Release

Hudson's was the largest CD ever done.....it was 33 stories high. (the WTC was 110 stories)

Mark Loizeaux, President of CDI, called the Hudson's project "the greatest dynamic-structural-control challenge the company had ever faced."

CDI had to sever the steel in the columns and create a delay system

21 man crew needed 3 months to investigate the structure and 4 months to complete preparations per CDI's implosion design.

In 24 days, CDI's 12 person loading crew placed 4,118 separate charges in 1,100 locations on 9 levels of the structure. Over 36,000 ft. of detonating cord and 4,512 non-electric delay devices were installed in CDI's implosion initiation.......the implosion required the detonation of a total of 2,728 lb. of explosives,

One third the size of the WTC.

Pulled off in secret.

Impossible.

CD theory debunked.

Get used to it.
 

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The WTC was brought down by a controlled demolition. Someone controlled a jet aircraft to fly into the towers, and this led to them collapsing.

People with an actual understanding of civil engineering can grasp this concept. People with a desire to make themselves into media celebrities, or people with a need to believe in conspiracies (see also: religious fanatics, a related species), no matter what their educational background, will have trouble with this concept.