Gun Control is Completely Useless.

Curious Cdn

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Yeah.

And they don't work.

The guy in the Colorado theatre shooting had a 100 round mag......and it jammed very early on, causing him to switch to his handgun, if I remember correctly.

The guy that shot the congresswoman had a 32 round mag in his Glock pistol, and it jammed, pretty well ending the shooting.

There is a reason the military uses 30 round mags.

You didn't look at my "30 shot mag" apparently. It's for the Secondary Amendment-era repeater that the founding fathers wanted everyone to open carry.
 

Hoid

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Chicago is a punching bag for gun violence because it has extremely tough gun control.

To be accurate it has extremely tough gun control because it has a lot of gun violence.

It isn't like they brought gun control into a peaceful city and turned it into a shooting gallery.

That is only what you would like to be the truth.
 

Colpy

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To be accurate it has extremely tough gun control because it has a lot of gun violence.

It isn't like they brought gun control into a peaceful city and turned it into a shooting gallery.

That is only what you would like to be the truth.

A little research please.

Gun Control Since the early 1970s, Chicago and its suburban municipalities have taken a national lead in enacting firearms control legislation. Citizens' groups such as the Committee for Handgun Control, formed in 1973 and renamed Illinois Citizens for Handgun Control in 1982, have worked together with city politicians and police to pass some of the nation's toughest gun control laws. Mayor Richard J. Daley was outspoken in his stand against gun rights activists, testifying before U.S. House subcommittees on gun violence in 1972 and creating a special court to process gun crimes. In response to rising gun violence by the end of the 1970s, several Chicago aldermen began exploring the idea of a freeze on handgun registration.
In 1981 the suburb of Morton Grove became the first municipality in the United States to ban the sale, transportation, and ownership of handguns. When a federal judge upheld the ban, the village attracted national attention. The National Rifle Association began a campaign in many states to push for legislation that would preempt gun regulations by municipal governments. The campaign was unsuccessful in Illinois. In 1982, Mayor Jane Byrne and the city council began to hold hearings on an ordinance proposed by alderman Ed Burke banning the further sale and registration of handguns in Chicago. Receiving strong support from Byrne and her allies, and coming in the wake of the assassination attempts on President Reagan and Pope John Paul II, the ordinance passed. All residents who purchased and registered their handguns prior to January 1982 were allowed to keep their weapons. Chicago became the first major city to enact a handgun freeze in United States history.



Gun Control


And it has't done a speck of good.
 

Hoid

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A little research please.

Gun Control Since the early 1970s, Chicago and its suburban municipalities have taken a national lead in enacting firearms control legislation. Citizens' groups such as the Committee for Handgun Control, formed in 1973 and renamed Illinois Citizens for Handgun Control in 1982, have worked together with city politicians and police to pass some of the nation's toughest gun control laws. Mayor Richard J. Daley was outspoken in his stand against gun rights activists, testifying before U.S. House subcommittees on gun violence in 1972 and creating a special court to process gun crimes. In response to rising gun violence by the end of the 1970s, several Chicago aldermen began exploring the idea of a freeze on handgun registration.
In 1981 the suburb of Morton Grove became the first municipality in the United States to ban the sale, transportation, and ownership of handguns. When a federal judge upheld the ban, the village attracted national attention. The National Rifle Association began a campaign in many states to push for legislation that would preempt gun regulations by municipal governments. The campaign was unsuccessful in Illinois. In 1982, Mayor Jane Byrne and the city council began to hold hearings on an ordinance proposed by alderman Ed Burke banning the further sale and registration of handguns in Chicago. Receiving strong support from Byrne and her allies, and coming in the wake of the assassination attempts on President Reagan and Pope John Paul II, the ordinance passed. All residents who purchased and registered their handguns prior to January 1982 were allowed to keep their weapons. Chicago became the first major city to enact a handgun freeze in United States history.



Gun Control


And it has't done a speck of good.
"In response to rising gun violence by the end of the 1970s,"

this is what started it.

the rising gun violence came before the gun control

lack of gun control didn't do a speck of good
 

DaSleeper

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Coming from a racist name caller snowflake :rolleyes:
 

Colpy

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"In response to rising gun violence by the end of the 1970s,"

this is what started it.

the rising gun violence came before the gun control

lack of gun control didn't do a speck of good

You can read, right?

Since the early 1970s, Chicago and its suburban municipalities have taken a national lead in enacting firearms control legislation. Citizens' groups such as the Committee for Handgun Control, formed in 1973 and renamed Illinois Citizens for Handgun Control in 1982, have worked together with city politicians and police to pass some of the nation's toughest gun control laws. Mayor Richard J. Daley was outspoken in his stand against gun rights activists, testifying before U.S. House subcommittees on gun violence in 1972 and creating a special court to process gun crimes. In response to rising gun violence by the end of the 1970s,

The early 1970s, 1972, and 1973 come before the "late 1970s"Surprize!

BTW, I remember the Life magazine article on Morton Grove. In a suburb where there were estimated to be thousands of handguns, do you know how many were handed in?

FIVE all junk

Meanwhile, Kennesaw, Georgia (in protest) enacted a law requiring every home to have a firearm. The Mayor wrote to the mayor in Morton Grove, asking that he send turned in handguns to be distributed to the poor in Kennesaw.

Kennesaw is noted for its unique firearms legislation in response to Morton Grove, Illinois' law mandating gun prohibition. In 1982 the city passed an ordinance [Sec 34-21]:[21]
(a) In order to provide for the emergency management of the city, and further in order to provide for and protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants, every head of household residing in the city limits is required to maintain a firearm, together with ammunition therefore.
(b) Exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who suffer a physical or mental disability which would prohibit them from using such a firearm. Further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine, or persons convicted of a felony.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennesaw,_Georgia#Gun_law

Care to compare murder rates in the two municipalities?

I didn't think so.
 

taxslave

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/01/us/chicago-murders-2017-statistics/index.html

Despite all the odds, it seems Chicago murder by gun stats are coming down.

Most of the criminals are dead?

A little research please.

Gun Control Since the early 1970s, Chicago and its suburban municipalities have taken a national lead in enacting firearms control legislation. Citizens' groups such as the Committee for Handgun Control, formed in 1973 and renamed Illinois Citizens for Handgun Control in 1982, have worked together with city politicians and police to pass some of the nation's toughest gun control laws. Mayor Richard J. Daley was outspoken in his stand against gun rights activists, testifying before U.S. House subcommittees on gun violence in 1972 and creating a special court to process gun crimes. In response to rising gun violence by the end of the 1970s, several Chicago aldermen began exploring the idea of a freeze on handgun registration.
In 1981 the suburb of Morton Grove became the first municipality in the United States to ban the sale, transportation, and ownership of handguns. When a federal judge upheld the ban, the village attracted national attention. The National Rifle Association began a campaign in many states to push for legislation that would preempt gun regulations by municipal governments. The campaign was unsuccessful in Illinois. In 1982, Mayor Jane Byrne and the city council began to hold hearings on an ordinance proposed by alderman Ed Burke banning the further sale and registration of handguns in Chicago. Receiving strong support from Byrne and her allies, and coming in the wake of the assassination attempts on President Reagan and Pope John Paul II, the ordinance passed. All residents who purchased and registered their handguns prior to January 1982 were allowed to keep their weapons. Chicago became the first major city to enact a handgun freeze in United States history.



Gun Control


And it has't done a speck of good.
ALl that is ancient history to hoid's age group.
And facts don't fit well with their dogma.
 

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Most of the criminals are dead?


ALl that is ancient history to hoid's age group.
And facts don't fit well with their dogma.

The likes of Capone, Dillinger and Pretty Boy Floyd for sure, but I'm sure there's newer versions coming along.
 

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What Percentage Of Mass Shootings Happen In 'Gun Free Zones'? The Number Is Stunning.

But what does the evidence say about "gun free zones"?

According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, "gun free zones" (areas where guns are prohibited) have been the target of more than 98% of all mass shootings. This staggering number is why such designated areas are often referred to as "soft targets," meaning unprotected and vulnerable.

"According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, only a little more than 1% of mass public shootings since 1950 have occurred in places that were not considered to be a gun-free zone," reports The Blaze. "In fact, as Crime Prevention Research Center President John Lott Jr. noted in October 2015, only two mass shootings in the U.S. since 1950 have occurred in an area where citizens were not prohibited from carrying a gun."

Former Vice President Joe Biden, a Democrat, introduced the Gun-Free School Zones Act (GFSZA) to the U.S. Senate in 1990, and it was signed into law by then-President George H.W. Bush, a Republican. The act was clearly proposed with the intent to prevent mass shootings at such precious areas as schools. But the act, as the statistic proves, did not result in the desired outcome.

While mass shootings are a complex issue with more than one action needed to prevent them, it seems unclear why gun control advocates would hold so tight to their well-intended, but ultimately dangerous "gun free zones" even in the face of such a staggering reality. Why is it kosher to protect our politicians, Hollywood celebrities, and federal currency with guns, but not our children?
https://www.dailywire.com/news/2744...ontent=062316-podcast&utm_campaign=mattwalsh#
 

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f#ck you!
"Hunh. You'd like to."

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there is nothing false about my dichotomy, and it is probably bigger than yours so go play hands across america with your hippy loving Occupy wallstrèet buddies.
Quite specifically, you set up a dichotomy of muzzle-loading muskets vs. the Colt M1911 automatic, implying that there are no other choices. False dichotomy.

So go practice your logical fallacies with your Hitler-sucking Klan buddies.
 

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You are wrong again, Flossy. Check your facts before you post. I said this to OB, and I'll say it to you. Cites will help your cause, if you truly wish to discuss subjects here.

So far, you've been acting like a child. Do you have any aspirations for when you are an adult?
 

Curious Cdn

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You are wrong again, Flossy. Check your facts before you post. I said this to OB, and I'll say it to you. Cites will help your cause, if you truly wish to discuss subjects here.

So far, you've been acting like a child. Do you have any aspirations for when you are an adult?

Are you cutting and pasting this same malarkey into every thread?
 

Murphy

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Just the ones where Flossy is posting. Like OB, who is getting better at developing arguments, Flossy will either catch on, or get tired of trolling virtually every thread and go to a teen forum, where he belongs.

He is a 14 year old who craves attention.
 

Murphy

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I wonder why teens feel that they must troll. Does Flossy feel that he's bothering the adults? Trying to be cool in front of his friends? Or does he have mental health issues?

Many teen s claim to be suffering from mental abuses. Is Flossy doing that as well? Are his parents having problems with him? So many questions that no one could care less about getting the answers to. :lol:

If I had a student like him, I would escort him to the guidance office and introduce him to someone who will help. :lol:
 

JamesBondo

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"Hunh. You'd like to."

--Graham Greene, Thunderheart


Quite specifically, you set up a dichotomy of muzzle-loading muskets vs. the Colt M1911 automatic, implying that there are no other choices. False dichotomy.

just because it was inferred does not mean it was implied. instead of jumping to conclusions, you should have just asked.

to save you the trouble of asking this time, yes, there are other choices than the 1911. And, yes, your dictomy is very small. Mine is larger, hairier, and makes women quiver.No need to feel embarrassed, that is just life, get over it.