The type of person that becomes a teacher is most unlikely to want to kill people. You can bank on that. The whole idea of arming teachers is bizarre, to say the least.
Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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The type of person that becomes a teacher is most unlikely to want to kill people. You can bank on that. The whole idea of arming teachers is bizarre, to say the least.
I've known a few dedicated shooters that were or are teachers, including myself.
And in the USA, there are a heck of a lot of veterans, some teachers, some maintenance, some administration, some janitors......it is not just teachers, but school staff.
I hear that, but it was the first stat that came to view.
Okay, trusty wikipedia..........115 cities over 200,000 population.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population
Chicago ranks 16th in murder rate. Certainly not in the one percent, but wayyyy up there.
BTW, 2 of the cities that beat Chicago are in California (tough gun control) and one is Washington, DC (tough gun control)
Not sure I see the significance. The only link I see is being controlled by the Democrat party machine.
F Or that matter do all cities even report the same way?
Anyone whose job it was to protect these kids.
I've known a few dedicated shooters that were or are teachers, including myself.
You'll need to know more than a few to pull off Trump's goofy, fecking plan. Try a few hundred thousand.
It's rubbish. If you're really a professional security guy, you have to know that it's rubbish And it's not going to fix anything.
No, it is not rubbish.
As long as they are trained correctly, it is the best possible solution.
The only other option is continue as they were.....leaving security to law enforcement.
How did that work out for them?
in canada, not just the USA, universities have security that are sworn police officers.
i think it is rubbish to think a school system in larger cities aren't capable of implementing an acceptable equivalent.
the biggest obstacle is the ignorance perpetuated by the leftards that are by default against any solution of this sort.
i think it is rubbish to think a school system in larger cities aren't capable of implementing an acceptable equivalent.
the biggest obstacle is the ignorance perpetuated by the leftards that are by default against any solution of this sort.
When I was in university, the Iranian revolution happened. There were a lot of Iranian students there, on both sides of it and there as a stabbing in the main concourse of the largest building. Security became armed right around that time. Some years later, a professor went on a shooting spree in the exact same building three or four floors up and shot several other professors. Campus Security couldn't have possibly intervened as the whole incident was a few minutes long. An army of cutthroat Home Ec teachers (tough guys, just like you lot) would maybe, have had just enough time to identify where a shooter was, group together into a combat-arms killing machine, get a weapon, loaded and "go". The Florida incident lasted for three minutes.
You guys watch WAAAY too many Steven Segal movies.
So not number one.
Number 25 in murder rate.
BTW there are numerous ways to judge and list "most dangerous" and the single thing all these metrics have in common is that CHICAGO IS NEVER NUMBER ONE
The game is "concealed carry", which means no searching for a weapon.
Would you rather be in a locked down classroom with an armed classroom teacher/custodian, or an unarmed one?
And how did the finally bring down Fabrkant? I assume you are talking about him. An unarmed security guard overpowered him.
3 sworn police officers waited outside the Florida school until the shooting stopped.
I would rather not be locked down in a classroom at all/
See?
That is what we are striving for.
I know that part mystifies you.
Fabrikant was long done by then. He had killed everybody that he wanted to kill (more like mass murder than random mass killing). Had Fabrikant wanted to kill for the sake of killing only, that security guard would have been toast.
I'd like to have an armed classroom teacher as skilled, brave and tough as Kevin Vickers. There should be a couple of hundred of those in all of the United States.
that sounds extremely naive. you think criminals will disarm for you?
Don't be obtuse. If 'the top 1%' is used, it would be unlikely that the cities would first be separated into a half dozen categories.
In the top one percent of municipalities over 10,000 population it is still in the top 1%.
I never claimed it was Number One..
Techumseh's bones pointed out that that was not representative, so I researched large cities......over 200.000. Number 16 out of 115.
That is still pretty damn high.
Gun control hasn't helped a bit.
Of course, the place has been run by corrupt Democrats forever, no wonder it is a hell hole.
Unfortunately, it continues to become clear you don't know much, and aren't willing to learn.
I accept your point that gun violence is a plague. No argument there.
However, Chicago is a whipping boy for no good reason.
Oh wait, maybe its so you can say gun control isn't working.
Unlike all those other cities with higher violence where no gun control is working so well.
However, Chicago is a whipping boy for no good reason.
Oh wait, maybe its so you can say gun control isn't working.
Unlike all those other cities with higher violence where no gun control is working so well.
there is no evidence that it is working in Canada in cities of much lower violence.
you keep forgetting that the CDC's recent conclusions related to the plague included that gun control has mixed and contradicting resulting. This is usually what happens when some unknown factor is driving the rates.
As gun debate roils on, teachers in this Texas school are already armed
By MOLLY HENNESSY-FISKE
FEB 22, 2018 | 5:15 PM
ARGYLE, TEXAS
As gun debate roils on, teachers in this Texas school are already armed
Signs alert those approaching Argyle High School that staff are armed. (Molly Hennessy-Fiske / Los Angeles Times)
In the days since a 19-year-old gunman stormed onto his former high school campus in Parkland, Fla., killing 17 people with an AR-15 assault rifle, the nation has been embroiled in a debate over what to do about school violence: How do you make it stop?
Here at Argyle High School, they already have an answer to that question: The teachers are packing handguns.
A sign outside campus warns: "Please be aware that the staff at Argyle [Independent School District] are armed and may use whatever force is necessary to protect our students."
As gun debate roils on, teachers in this Texas school are already armed
By MOLLY HENNESSY-FISKE
FEB 22, 2018 | 5:15 PM
ARGYLE, TEXAS
As gun debate roils on, teachers in this Texas school are already armed
Signs alert those approaching Argyle High School that staff are armed. (Molly Hennessy-Fiske / Los Angeles Times)
In the days since a 19-year-old gunman stormed onto his former high school campus in Parkland, Fla., killing 17 people with an AR-15 assault rifle, the nation has been embroiled in a debate over what to do about school violence: How do you make it stop?
Here at Argyle High School, they already have an answer to that question: The teachers are packing handguns.
A sign outside campus warns: "Please be aware that the staff at Argyle [Independent School District] are armed and may use whatever force is necessary to protect our students."
As gun debate roils on, teachers in this Texas school are already armed
I have no idea what you are saying.
Does that make two of us?
What is known and proven beyond all doubt is that no gun control does not work.
