Gun Control is Completely Useless.

[bluebyrd35]

Criminals prey on the vulnerable
the thing is to not be vulnerable.

The police state runs on fear and division...and is not legally obligated to show up to protect you.
But then the best way to rob a bank is to own one.

They need you to be distracted while they steal ALL the money out of the system...with the resulting loss and casualties THAT will bring.

So guns, and the gun debate, are a great distraction to keep the peeps busy till the crap really hits the fan.
Then the guns and the gunless will really have a divide to deal with.

How many of those criminals are under 25 years old and not being vulnerable is making sure of good laws and making sure they are upheld.

In Canada, NO ONE in this area fires their guns in the air on New Year's Eve. They do where I spend my winter in the US. some years there are innocent people injured and killed by the returning bullets. You are very much mistaken believing that sensible laws properly enforced, make a police state. In fact, most police states are the ones with the loose gun laws. You are in danger of getting shot if you make a traffic error in some countries, one such country is next door.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

25 YEARS MURDER-FREE IN 'GUN TOWN USA'
Crime rate plummeted after law required firearms for residents
25 years murder-free in ‘Gun Town USA’

Then-councilman J.O. Stephenson said after the ordinance was passed, everyone "went crazy."

"People all over the country said there would be shootings in the street and violence in homes," he said. "Of course, that wasn't the case."

In fact, according to Stephenson, it caused the crime rate in the city to plunge.

Kennesaw Historical Society president Robert Jones said following the law's passage, the crime rate dropped 89 percent in the city, compared to the modest 10 percent drop statewide.

"It did drop after it was passed," he said. "After it initially dropped, it has stayed at the same low level for the past 16 years.

"You can't argue with the fact that Kennesaw has the lowest crime rate of any city our size in the country," said Church, who owns a denture-making company in Kennesaw.

According to the Kennesaw Police Department, the city's most recent crime statistics show 243 property crimes per 100,000 residents in 1998, or .243 per 1,000.

The city's crime rate continues to be far below other metro Atlanta city's with similar populations, like Decatur. In 1998, Decatur recorded 4,049 property crimes per 100,000 residents."

"It was done in response to a law passed by Morton Grove, Ill., outlawing gun ownership within the city limits," he said. "Several council members were upset Morton Grove had gotten a lot of attention with their ordinance so they decided to top them.
Gun Ownership - It's The Law In Kennesaw

Crime states for the village of Morton Grove
Crime in Morton Grove, Illinois (IL): murders, rapes, robberies, assaults, burglaries, thefts, auto thefts, arson, law enforcement employees, police officers, crime map

I think the stats speak for themselves

Interesting and not surprising. If everyone has a gun......then they have a level playing field..............and the self defense argument is no longer valid.

Thanks for posting that. Interesting from a sociological point of view too. The more controls are put on something........eg: guns, booze, etc...........the More the population wants it. Loosen the restrictions and allowing easier access diminishes that desire. Human nature.

 

[EagleSmack]

How many of those criminals are under 25 years old and not being vulnerable is making sure of good laws and making sure they are upheld.

In Canada, NO ONE in this area fires their guns in the air on New Year's Eve. They do where I spend my winter in the US. some years there are innocent people injured and killed by the returning bullets. You are very much mistaken believing that sensible laws properly enforced, make a police state. In fact, most police states are the ones with the loose gun laws. You are in danger of getting shot if you make a traffic error in some countries, one such country is next door.

Fake

 

[Danbones]

How many of those criminals are under 25 years old and not being vulnerable is making sure of good laws and making sure they are upheld.

In Canada, NO ONE in this area fires their guns in the air on New Year's Eve. They do where I spend my winter in the US. some years there are innocent people injured and killed by the returning bullets. You are very much mistaken believing that sensible laws properly enforced, make a police state. In fact, most police states are the ones with the loose gun laws. You are in danger of getting shot if you make a traffic error in some countries, one such country is next door.

Not to be difficult, but a link would be nice please.

 

[Curious Cdn]

hmm...quite true....but:-

The rational part of a teen's brain isn't fully developed and won't be until age 25 or so. In fact, recent research has found that adult and teen brains work differently. Adults think with the prefrontal cortex, the brain's rational part.

Now, remember the part that is undeveloped is the part that governs risky and dangerous behavior. This means that those persons are much less likely to foresee the results of their risky behavior and without certain laws and protections from their own actions are a danger to themselves and others. So try wrapping your more or less developed adult? brain around why laws for the protections of all is necessary,


I get so tired of repeating ad-nauseum that I am NOT about taking legally obtained and registered guns from those who need them or who want them for hunting or skeet shooting, target shooting or any legal use, I just do not want to live in a society where I do not feel safe from a young teen or several of them when walking down the street or a neighbor who thinks it is a great joke to shoot at children with their dog, because he had a few drinks.

Many people in this area own guns BUT they follow the law and do not play with them to antagonize or show off.

Now you tell me why you want to allow such behavior in this country by relaxing our gun laws!!

I had the distinct pleasure of being able to fire automatic weapons when I was 18 years old ...in VERY controlled circumstances under the watchful eyes of Sergeants, Warrant Officers and Petty Officers. I got it out of my system.I highly recommend that approach.

I don't own any firearms right now as I am an urban dweller and there is no need/point to doing so in Canada, unless you hunt deer or moose. If I lived in Cicero, Ill., mind you ...

 

[Curious Cdn]

.....my door was unlocked last night.

Slept fine....

We can do that here, too. The raccoons can pick locks, anyway.

 

[DaSleeper]

Plus I'm not afraid.

Just of global warming huh?

 

[Danbones]

no you just hide behind total bullsh!T

where is that citation for the dailey stormer you lyin deusch?

nuthin but dodge after dodge after dodge from this guy
wow

 

[Bar Sinister]

Oooooooooooooh, another one who doesn't understand that it's people who do the killing, NOT the guns!

OOOOOHHHHH, another gun nut who actually thinks more guns equals a safer society. Why is it that the USA is not the safest democracy on the planet?

 

[pgs]

OOOOOHHHHH, another gun nut who actually thinks more guns equals a safer society. Why is it that the USA is not the safest democracy on the planet?

So if I shoot you , was it the gun that killed you ?

 

[DaSleeper]

OOOOOHHHHH, another gun nut who actually thinks more guns equals a safer society. Why is it that the USA is not the safest democracy on the planet?

Demographics!
What do most cities and areas within with high crime and killings have in common?

 

[petros]

OOOOOHHHHH, another gun nut who actually thinks more guns equals a safer society. Why is it that the USA is not the safest democracy on the planet?

Why do people without guns phone someone with a gun to rescue them?

If you had a gun you could shoot and wound Gargamel and Azreal next time they come to steal your smurfberries and eat your friends and family then phone the people with guns to cart him off to the pokey.

Sometime the people with guns can take 20 minutes to rescue you.

How many times could you get raped in 20 minutes by 4 home invaders?

 

[DaSleeper]

Ladders are more dangerous than guns....
In Canada, 14,000 people are injured annually as a result of falling from ladders



In Canada, it is estimated that around 14,000 workers are injured annually due fall from height accidents, the majority of which involve ladders. There are also hundreds of injuries suffered by
homeowners each year as the result of ladder accidents.

Source: Ladder Accident Statistics in Canada



Please register your ladders and keep them away from children....


A course in proper ladder use will be offered free of charge to all anti-gun snowflakes

 

[JLM]

OOOOOHHHHH, another gun nut who actually thinks more guns equals a safer society. Why is it that the USA is not the safest democracy on the planet?

Biggest factor would be it's about the 4th most populous jurisdiction on the planet.

We can do that here, too. The raccoons can pick locks, anyway.

"Locks only keep out honest people"

 

[bluebyrd35]

So if I shoot you , was it the gun that killed you ?

LOl If you fell on a knife was it the knife that killed you? Of course it was!! So, so be careful you don't trip while carrying one.

If you drop the gun or it misfires and kills you, of course it was the gun that killed you, Just be careful when cleaning your gun and make sure it is in good order and don't drop it,

I do not recommend putting either the knife or the gun in the hands of a child. or a mentally sick person,with a grudge,

Ladders are more dangerous than guns....
In Canada, 14,000 people are injured annually as a result of falling from ladders



In Canada, it is estimated that around 14,000 workers are injured annually due fall from height accidents, the majority of which involve ladders. There are also hundreds of injuries suffered by
homeowners each year as the result of ladder accidents.

Source: Ladder Accident Statistics in Canada



Please register your ladders and keep them away from children....


A course in proper ladder use will be offered free of charge to all anti-gun snowflakes

Another stupid reply. When was the last time a ladder was used to kill the enemy during a war battle, When was a ladder last used to rob a person? I am sure somewhere along the way these things have happened, Are these things designed to kill?,,,,,,,are you getting the idea yet?? There are certain things that must have rules and laws to avoid them being used to kill or injure someone, You know. as the rules of the road and the seat belt law, The laws governing the manufacture of such items, which in no way stops the stupid from shooting themselves in the foot, falling off a ladder and going through a windshield because they felt the law about buckling up, or taking the suggestions or warnings about misuse did not nor should they apply to everyone,

 

[petros]

Oh good Lord.

 

[DaSleeper]

LOl If you fell on a knife was it the knife that killed you? Of course it was!! So, so be careful you don't trip while carrying one.

If you drop the gun or it misfires and kills you, of course it was the gun that killed you, Just be careful when cleaning your gun and make sure it is in good order and don't drop it,

I do not recommend putting either the knife or the gun in the hands of a child. or a mentally sick person,with a grudge,


Another stupid reply. When was the last time a ladder was used to kill the enemy during a war battle, When was a ladder last used to rob a person? I am sure somewhere along the way these things have happened, Are these things designed to kill?,,,,,,,are you getting the idea yet?? There are certain things that must have rules and laws to avoid them being used to kill or injure someone, You know. as the rules of the road and the seat belt law, The laws governing the manufacture of such items, which in no way stops the stupid from shooting themselves in the foot, falling off a ladder and going through a windshield because they felt the law about buckling up, or taking the suggestions or warnings about misuse did not nor should they apply to everyone,

Biggest factor would be it's about the 4th most populous jurisdiction on the planet.




"Locks only keep out honest people"

JLM .....This is a repost from several years ago...... for the clueless one I quoted above you.....

To show the stupidity of ...maybe not the storage regulations but the interpretation of said regulations.....
A few years ago...my nephew (now retired) was living in Temagami Ontario, and while working in Alberta, finds out his house was broken into....Finally, he's on the phone with the OPP in his house and they tell him his only damage is his liquor cabinet is empty and so is his gun cabinet....would he please tell them where the registration papers are for his guns....
So he goes and tells them the guns are not in his cabinet but well hidden and they have a hard time to find them evenwith his instructions...
That's when they charge him for illegally storing his guns and they get confiscated..
When he comes back, a month later, just in time for his court date and explains to the judge, how he hid his guns and how the police had a hard time to find them....the judge asked the officer..."If the guns had been in the cabinet (in proper storage??) where would they be?
After the obvious answer from the police..the judge said "Return this man's property...case dismissed"
Smart Judge...

 

[gerryh]

LOl If you fell on a knife was it the knife that killed you? Of course it was!! So, so be careful you don't trip while carrying one.

If you drop the gun or it misfires and kills you, of course it was the gun that killed you, Just be careful when cleaning your gun and make sure it is in good order and don't drop it,

I do not recommend putting either the knife or the gun in the hands of a child. or a mentally sick person,with a grudge,


Another stupid reply. When was the last time a ladder was used to kill the enemy during a war battle, When was a ladder last used to rob a person? I am sure somewhere along the way these things have happened, Are these things designed to kill?,,,,,,,are you getting the idea yet?? There are certain things that must have rules and laws to avoid them being used to kill or injure someone, You know. as the rules of the road and the seat belt law, The laws governing the manufacture of such items, which in no way stops the stupid from shooting themselves in the foot, falling off a ladder and going through a windshield because they felt the law about buckling up, or taking the suggestions or warnings about misuse did not nor should they apply to everyone,

We have laws concerning the safe storage and handling of firearms. We have licensing requirements. A course is needed, and if you want to purchase a restricted weapon a second course is required. You must apply through the police. A police check is done, if you have are separated, divorced, or married you need to get your spouse/ex's permission.

What more do you want?

 

[Bar Sinister]

So if I shoot you , was it the gun that killed you ?

Can't answer the question can you?

Why do people without guns phone someone with a gun to rescue them?

If you had a gun you could shoot and wound Gargamel and Azreal next time they come to steal your smurfberries and eat your friends and family then phone the people with guns to cart him off to the pokey.

Sometime the people with guns can take 20 minutes to rescue you.

How many times could you get raped in 20 minutes by 4 home invaders?

Still haven't answered my question.

Demographics!
What do most cities and areas within with high crime and killings have in common?

Demographics? So you are claiming that the US is less urbanized than Canada and that the rural hicks are running around shooting each other?

Biggest factor would be it's about the 4th most populous jurisdiction on the planet.



"Locks only keep out honest people"

So that explains the huge numbers of gun deaths in the EU, China, and India.

We have laws concerning the safe storage and handling of firearms. We have licensing requirements. A course is needed, and if you want to purchase a restricted weapon a second course is required. You must apply through the police. A police check is done, if you have are separated, divorced, or married you need to get your spouse/ex's permission.

What more do you want?

I believe that latest posts refer to the USA; not to Canada which has attempted to do things right so far as gun ownership in concerned.

 

[JamesBondo]

lol if you fell on a knife was it the knife that killed you? Of course it was!! So, so be careful you don't trip while carrying one.

If you drop the gun or it misfires and kills you, of course it was the gun that killed you, just be careful when cleaning your gun and make sure it is in good order and don't drop it,

i do not recommend putting either the knife or the gun in the hands of a child. Or a mentally sick person,with a grudge,


another stupid reply. When was the last time a ladder was used to kill the enemy during a war battle, when was a ladder last used to rob a person? I am sure somewhere along the way these things have happened, are these things designed to kill?,,,,,,,are you getting the idea yet?? There are certain things that must have rules and laws to avoid them being used to kill or injure someone, you know. As the rules of the road and the seat belt law, the laws governing the manufacture of such items, which in no way stops the stupid from shooting themselves in the foot, falling off a ladder and going through a windshield because they felt the law about buckling up, or taking the suggestions or warnings about misuse did not nor should they apply to everyone,

scouts canada does it all the time