Gun Control is Completely Useless.

[DaSleeper]

Just don't go to Florida every winter then, and quit crying about how bad it is...

Go to Cuba instead where only the army and police have gun....so you should feel safe there....

 

[bluebyrd35]

If you read Colpy's enlightening post on U.S. gun statistics compared to Canadian gun statistics, I think you will find the U.S. statistics are nowhere near as daunting as many think!

Yes and I have given the reasons why his stats are invalid.

Try this article.
Americans are killing 51 times more people with guns than Canadians are | National Observer

Just don't go to Florida every winter then, and quit crying about how bad it is...

Go to Cuba instead where only the army and police have gun....so you should feel safe there....

Picture me singing "Jealousy" at you. Then imagine that I have seen and visited many places around the world (including Columbia when it was very different and dangerous than today and I will continue to travel. If you read my previous posts, you know, I don't much worry about myself in the US because I am very careful.

HOWEVER.....No way do I or most other reasonably sane persons want the same gun laws as the US coming to Canada. It is one import most reasonable Canadians do not wish to see.

 

[DaSleeper]

Yes and I have given the reasons why his stats are invalid.

Try this article.
Americans are killing 51 times more people with guns than Canadians are | National Observer

I call Bullshite to an opinion piece...
Some real stats
Canada 1.97 deaths per 100,000

U S 10.54 deaths per 100,000

A lot less than the 51 times Bullshite
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

I just hope that your security is better when you travel than your security on Facebook

 

[Colpy]

OOOOOHHHHH, another gun nut who actually thinks more guns equals a safer society. Why is it that the USA is not the safest democracy on the planet?

Because the United States has a serious problem with violent inner cities, ghettoes, fatherless black children, and the culture of violence in that sub-culture.

Step outside those urban centres and the rate drops radically. For instance, Idaho has the highest number of gun owners, 56.4% of adults own guns. Murder rate 2015: 1.9 per 100,000. Vermont has the loosest gun laws in the USA. Murder rate 2015: 1.6 per 100,000. For comparison, Canada's murder rate is 1.68 per 100,000 in 2014.

The murder rate in the USA is now rising, but was at the lowest point in 60 years in 2015.........despite record gun sales, and the continuing liberalization of gun laws.

One of the safest democracies in the world is Switzerland, with a murder rate of 0.69 per 100,000. Want to talk about guns in Switzerland? Didn't think so.

I think that answers your question.

 

[DaSleeper]

Demographics!
The elephant in the room!

 

[bluebyrd35]

Because the United States has a serious problem with violent inner cities, ghettoes, fatherless black children, and the culture of violence in that sub-culture.

Step outside those urban centres and the rate drops radically. For instance, Idaho has the highest number of gun owners, 56.4% of adults own guns. Murder rate 2015: 1.9 per 100,000. Vermont has the loosest gun laws in the USA. Murder rate 2015: 1.6 per 100,000. For comparison, Canada's murder rate is 1.68 per 100,000 in 2014.

The murder rate in the USA is now rising, but was at the lowest point in 60 years in 2015.........despite record gun sales, and the continuing liberalization of gun laws.

One of the safest democracies in the world is Switzerland, with a murder rate of 0.69 per 100,000. Want to talk about guns in Switzerland? Didn't think so.

I think that answers your question.

No it certainly doesn't and you know exactly why.

How The NRA Kills Gun Violence Research - Business Insider

The NRA has managed to keep the spending on the collection of statistics abolished. It was replaced by Obama. Since then between threats of violence and reduction of that money every year since, the collection of data is once more useless,

Have you been to Switzerland??? I have and there is a very comprehensive control program in place there involving mandatory service that every citizen is involved in. They serve a specific amount of time in the handling of guns, how they are transported, stored. They are not free to do as they wish. This began during WWII when the country was surrounded by enemies and they were pressured at every turn to take sides. The guns in nearly all cases issued by the government. You never see armed guards around.

 

[JamesBondo]

Yes and I have given the reasons why his stats are invalid.

Try this article.
Americans are killing 51 times more people with guns than Canadians are | National Observer


Picture me singing "Jealousy" at you. Then imagine that I have seen and visited many places around the world (including Columbia when it was very different and dangerous than today and I will continue to travel. If you read my previous posts, you know, I don't much worry about myself in the US because I am very careful.

HOWEVER.....No way do I or most other reasonably sane persons want the same gun laws as the US coming to Canada. It is one import most reasonable Canadians do not wish to see.

I agree. I dont want the gun control crap from the american libtards coming to Canada

 

[bluebyrd35]

I agree. I dont want the gun control crap from the american libtards coming to Canada

What gun control?? All the democrats wanted was reinstatement of the collection of data At least that would have given a decent picture of deaths by guns. Why do YOU suppose the Republicans and the NRA, and the arms dealers do not want those stats collected?

Could it be because they are so outrageously worse than supposed??

 

[JamesBondo]

Because the United States has a serious problem with violent inner cities, ghettoes, fatherless black children, and the culture of violence in that sub-culture.

Step outside those urban centres and the rate drops radically. For instance, Idaho has the highest number of gun owners, 56.4% of adults own guns. Murder rate 2015: 1.9 per 100,000. Vermont has the loosest gun laws in the USA. Murder rate 2015: 1.6 per 100,000. For comparison, Canada's murder rate is 1.68 per 100,000 in 2014.

The murder rate in the USA is now rising, but was at the lowest point in 60 years in 2015.........despite record gun sales, and the continuing liberalization of gun laws.

One of the safest democracies in the world is Switzerland, with a murder rate of 0.69 per 100,000. Want to talk about guns in Switzerland? Didn't think so.

I think that answers your question.

I agree. If you look at switzerland and the US, one would have to conclude that the US's problems lie somewhere other than gun ownership and gun laws.

What gun control?? All the democrats wanted was reinstatement of the collection of data At least that would have given a decent picture of deaths by guns. Why do YOU suppose the Republicans and the NRA, and the arms dealers do not want those stats collected?

Could it be because they are so outrageously worse than supposed??

If that one flew over your head, dont expect me to chase you around to explain it to you.

 

[bluebyrd35]

I agree. If you look at switzerland and the US, one would have to conclude that the US's problems lie somewhere other than gun ownership and gun laws.



If that one flew over your head, dont expect me to chase you around to explain it to you.

For goodness sake, take off the blinders!! The difference is good gun laws. Switzerland does not allows buying guns over the counter in Wall- marts

 

[JamesBondo]

Canada 1.97 deaths per 100,000

U S 10.54 deaths per 100,000

A lot less than the 51 times

LOL that is some pretty shitty math skills from bluebyrd

 

[Danbones]

45 million people died in china after they took the guns
(as posted above)
That's life saving?

...and it ain't stairs that they might make illegal that you should worry about...
After they make your keyboard illegal like they did in Romania, I suppose you might have to worry about that after they have put everyone in the downstairs dungeon.

 

[JamesBondo]

For goodness sake, take off the blinders!! The difference is good gun laws. Switzerland does not allows buying guns over the counter in Wall- marts

LOL canadian tire sells firearms

 

[Danbones]

...so does every "pro" gang on the streets...
Oh, silly me

Canadian tire sells to legit Canadians

The illegal gangs illegally sell to illegitimate Canadians ILLEGALLY.
as "MR take the guns" similarly did himself:

Barack Obama ATF Scandal: 8 Facts About Fast and Furious You Might Not Know

8. It has been alleged by the National Rife Association and the New American that the killing of hundreds of Mexicans and even some U.S. law enforcement officers because of the Fast and Furious program was going to be used by the Barack Obama administration as an excuse for more gun control.

Barack Obama Fast and Furious Scandal: 8 Facts You Might Not Know

 

[Colpy]

For goodness sake, take off the blinders!! The difference is good gun laws. Switzerland does not allows buying guns over the counter in Wall- marts

Yeah, actually it does. For a bolt action rifle or a shotgun, you just have to have a criminal code check that was done in the last two years, even less of a restriction than the background check in US gun shops.

 

[DaSleeper]

LOL that is some pretty shitty math skills from bluebyrd

That is her standard M.O.
Ignore every stat that disagrees with her misconceptions, she would rather rely on leftard opinion piece and act pompous and far above us po... folks that don't brag about how much money we have...
..."For goodness sake"

 

[taxslave]

For goodness sake, take off the blinders!! The difference is good gun laws. Switzerland does not allows buying guns over the counter in Wall- marts

Canada doesn't either but that doesn't stop criminals from having unregistered handguns.

Just in the process of renewing my POL . THey sure want a lot of irrelevant personal information. Make work project for worthless bureaucrats that otherwise would be on welfare.

 

[Bar Sinister]

Here is the original OP, I think Colpy laid it out quite nicely

Unfortunately, Colpy's selections are cherry picking. All three provinces he selected have large aboriginal populations, a group that distorts Canada's gun death stats because it has an unusually high murder rate. If you want a proper comparison compare urban centers like Toronto to Chicago or Vancouver to Seattle. If you compare Winnipeg to Minneapolis for example, Winnipeg comes out looking quite good. Almost certainly if you wish to search diligently you can probably find many other areas of the US with low murder rates, provided you are willing to ignore the rest of the US. The US still leads the democratic world in gun death rates and that statistic refuses to go away.

Here is a link that may help to explain how the aboriginal murder rate distorts the Canadian total. And BTW Aboriginals are more likely to own guns than ordinary Canadians.
Homicide rate 6 times higher for aboriginal Canadians: StatsCan


Homicide rate 6 times higher for aboriginal Canadians: StatsCan | CTV News

 

[JamesBondo]

So when the rates are low in Canada, it is the canadian laws, but when the rates are high it is not the canadian laws. It is the aboriginal people.

You sir are a bigot.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

So when the rates are low in Canada, it is the canadian laws, but when the rates are high it is not the canadian laws. It is the aboriginal people.

You sir are a bigot.

Can't trust them redskins. "merciless Indian Savages" is what we call 'em. In our founding document.