Brutality & Violence from Union Protestors

EagleSmack

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Typical Liberal Democrat hate and violence this is. Imagine if this was a Tea Party event. Democrats like these thugs can mob and beat whenever they want and get away with it.
 

Cliffy

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Typical Liberal Democrat hate and violence this is. Imagine if this was a Tea Party event. Democrats like these thugs can mob and beat whenever they want and get away with it.
Where do you get that these are liberal democrats? Me thinks you ultra partisanship is blinding you.
 

Ron in Regina

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I doubt couriers that were Teamsters or Rail had any issues. That's what Brotherhood and Freedom of Assembly is all about and what it takes to protect Rights of the works. All workers. God bless em'. Utility and and trade Union workers can fill those alleys easily and with permits too.

It's sad, but I have to agree with you. The Teamsters wouldn't be beneath the
contempt of the strikers, & would (we both assume, it seems) have been allowed
by the unionized employees to earn their livings in that situation. I see something
wrong with that. As mentioned above, bad Public Relations is a choice, & if this
happens, don't be upset if these leaves a bad taste in the mouths of the rest of the
population.

The fact that we're having this debate at all comes from the fall out of situations like
the above. Yes, the Brotherhood is protecting their rights, but has no issue stepping
on the rights of others while doing so, and that's the crux of the issue here. It sours
the whole issue & would be compleately avoidable if the attitude of the strikers, etc...
didn't come across as the entitlement to dump on the rights of others and then think
they should be thanked for protecting everyones rights?
 

DaSleeper

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Typical Liberal Democrat hate and violence this is. Imagine if this was a Tea Party event. Democrats like these thugs can mob and beat whenever they want and get away with it.
Thank you for bringing the OP back into the argument
The rest of the thread sure shows the narrow vision of the MSM and the usual suspects in this forum which were prompt to denigrate the tea party members even if they were non violent and quick to defend the union members even when you see the videos of their violence.
How quick to deflect the argument towards the value of unions, so that we would forget this particliar violence.
But that's what forumites do....if you can't validate something>>>>>>psst>>>>>>>>>look over there!
 

Nuggler

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Unions were created to protect workers when Government's didn't..

One time there was no minimum wage, or worker rights imposed by our governments.

Different time, different era and the Unions have out grown their usefulness, costing taxpayer and driving jobs out of the country to lower wage environments.


good luck with that living on minimum wage, working three jobs thing, Boomer.
 

JLM

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good luck with that living on minimum wage, working three jobs thing, Boomer.

The main point is "minimum wage" has never been very good at trying to live (subsist on), but what baffles me is people keep thinking that raising it is going to improve things. The smart person does whatever it takes, more education, improve work skills, improve productivity, to rise above minimum wage.
 

Nuggler

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The rights Unions won weren't to be paid at rates that kill companies and force non-union people into destitution. Unions have become as greedy as investors.


you gotta valid point there loner. Has to be a truism that many companies have folded because they couldn't afford to pay the wages and benefits.

unfortunately, they are lumped with companies who have folded because they have driven down the cost of production (wages included), but still seek an environment where wages are almost non existant - Mexico ? China ? You not think this is not fueled by greed. ?
 

taxslave

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This law is about busting unions, lower wages and over time fewer worker rights, benefits and less job protection... Eventually there will be two classes of people. Those who own corporations and people with McJobs. I hope Canadians are smart enough to know that a race to the bottom is a bad idea.

We already have that. There are those with government jobs, and the rest of us that must pay for it.
 

Nuggler

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They won't believe you gopher, they laughed when we marched against free trade in the early eightys because it was plain as pigeon **** that exporting all the good jobs was the plan. It happened exactly that way and still some people want to bend to the limit. Starving their children will bring the good times somehow. I cannot understand that.


Yepper; JOBS JOBS JOBS. Good ol Lyin Brian.

We had a bunch of cops lay the clubs on us on Parliament Hill. Taught us a lot about the real center of power, the real vision of the Cons. They're never to be believed nor trusted.

They wound up with two seats. Unfortunately the Libs proved just as slimy, just not as overtly . Pick the snake you wish to bite you.

We're all being bitten now; just can't feel it right away.
 

taxslave

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In case you have forgotten, when unions were stronger the government did not allow exporting of jobs. MADE IN THE USA was something we were all proud of.

And then all the union people started shopping at wallywirld to increase their purchasing power. There goes local manufacturing. many of the large industries simply had their wage rates price them right out of the marketplace. Like the car companies or pulp mills. There is no way that installing a tire is worth $4o+/hr.

I'm sure our grandparents must be spinning in their graves. We are in the process of pissing away all the rights they fought so hard to achieve.

At some point people will figure out that Walmart, Home Depot and all these other union busting corporations are evil. Grinding poverty with no hope of a better future is a recipe for revolution. Eventually we'll have to riot and strike again to get fair compensation.

You might want to rethink that statement. Since I know several people at both and they , like much of the other employees have outside incomes. REad government cheques. They just want something to do that won't screw up their tax situation. That is the real reason these companies are not unionized.
 

earth_as_one

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Yepper; JOBS JOBS JOBS. Good ol Lyin Brian.

We had a bunch of cops lay the clubs on us on Parliament Hill. Taught us a lot about the real center of power, the real vision of the Cons. They're never to be believed nor trusted.

They wound up with two seats. Unfortunately the Libs proved just as slimy, just not as overtly . Pick the snake you wish to bite you.

We're all being bitten now; just can't feel it right away.

Those lyin Conservatives, I'm voting Liberal.

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Gee how come nothing every changes?

How about voting NDP or Green?

We already have that. There are those with government jobs, and the rest of us that must pay for it.

Police, military, roads, hospitals, schools, universities, border security... all paid by tax dollars.

I don't have a problem with taxes, just with the way the current government spends some of our tax dollars.

If union members commit acts of violence, I support enforcing the law. I don't support busting unions. I support giving workers more power to hold union leadership accountable and make their actions more transparent.
 

Nuggler

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Those lyin Conservatives, I'm voting Liberal.

Next election:
Those slimy Liberals, I'm voting Conservative.

Next election:
Those lyin Conservatives, I'm voting Liberal.

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Those slimy Liberals, I'm voting Conservative.

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Those lyin Conservatives, I'm voting Liberal.

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Those slimy Liberals, I'm voting Conservative.

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Those slimy Liberals, I'm voting Conservative.

Next election:
Those lyin Conservatives, I'm voting Liberal.

Next election:
Those slimy Liberals, I'm voting Conservative.

Next election:
Those lyin Conservatives, I'm voting Liberal.

Gee how come nothing every changes?

How about voting NDP or Green?



Police, military, roads, hospitals, schools, universities, border security... all paid by tax dollars.

I don't have a problem with taxes, just with the way the current government spends some of our tax dollars.

If union members commit acts of violence, I support enforcing the law. I don't support busting unions. I support giving workers more power to hold union leadership accountable and make their actions more transparent.


Everyone should vote their conscience, no ?
 

JLM

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Gee how come nothing every changes?


If union members commit acts of violence, I support enforcing the law. I don't support busting unions. I support giving workers more power to hold union leadership accountable and make their actions more transparent.

That wouldn't be necessary if people could just open their eyes and ears and workers could just evaluate the benefits they are getting for the money they are paying out to bureaucrats who just add to the cost of the product. If a person perfects his perfomance and efficiency, he/she can pretty well work anywhere they want without having to fork out dues every month. Just look at the sh*t that is going on......................nurses would rather work as administrators because they get more pay than nurses..............what a crock of sh*t. The primary service provider should be the highest paid. Bureaucracy is killing us, folks! In industry the man who does the mining and killing should be the highest paid, not the A$$hole sitting behind the desk counting beans!
 

petros

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Partly true, perhaps! I know for a fact Walmart hires people who would otherwise have a tough time getting a job, so what we have is a person who is self sufficient and has pride in his/her work. Nothing evil about that!
Every product on the shelf of your local Wal*Mart was delivered by Union companies. There is no way hell Wal*mart would contract their services if they weren't cheap and reliable. Weyburn Wal*Mart is Unionized. It can be done.
 

lone wolf

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you gotta valid point there loner. Has to be a truism that many companies have folded because they couldn't afford to pay the wages and benefits.

unfortunately, they are lumped with companies who have folded because they have driven down the cost of production (wages included), but still seek an environment where wages are almost non existant - Mexico ? China ? You not think this is not fueled by greed. ?
Sure it's greed. That's what happens when money matters more than people.
 

Locutus

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Brotherhood, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one. Cool stuff. There is no 'I' in un...oh wait.
 

CDNBear

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I don't suppose you know that the competing wages and benefits are union got. No union no competition genius.
I didn't think you would be someone that could understand cyclical concepts.

That sounds like some Right winger nutter conspiracy theory.
Nope, just the way it is.

Dues get you $5 an hour in pensions.
LOL, if you're in the unions. We had to pay dues just to work on union sites. We got zero from the unions.

The anti-union company was so despeate they had to run under permit? That's hilarious.
No it's sad that union idiocy forces companies either to avoid bidding on contracts on union jobs, or having the guys pay union dues for nothing in return.