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In response you make a pathetic and transparent effort to twist my words.
You've dragged my ethnicity into the debate many many times, and more oft than not, in a negative light, in weak and lame attempts to troll me. The Mods have even noted it.

There's nothing lame about pointing how you have no issue with using my ethnicity as a weapon, and how that makes you a bigot.

Wear it EAO, you earned it.
 

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Don't play dumb. You know damn well my point is about the impact movies have on perceptions, using an example I thought you could relate to personally.

In response you make a pathetic and transparent effort to twist my words. That's lame...
You twisted mine by only posting parts that made me look foolish.
It is OK for you to do that?
No reply yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

I care far more about Ken Taylor's place in history than the Oscars. If you ask anyone under 30 who saw this movie, Argot is... how did Goober put it....the true story of how the CIA safely whisked six U.S. Embassy staffers out of Iran during the 1979 hostage crisis .

Here is the link- Argo -Some facts behind the movie - SOME FACTS- Increased to caps for your beady little eyes that only sees what you want to see. .
Argo - Some facts behind the movie

Read on Bucky. I knew the story well before I posted this thread. As to your knowledge of history and fact, or lack of when it comes down to it. Many Members have taken you to school on your idiotic and downright dumb statements that you call historical fact.

In the final scenes of the "nail-biting political thriller" Argo -- the true story of how the CIA safely whisked six U.S. Embassy staffers out of Iran during the 1979 hostage crisis -- a group of Americans disguised as a film crew safely survives three passport checks, the canceling and uncanceling of plane tickets, and a runway car chase by the Revolutionary Guard. But according to the insider account published in 1999 by the CIA's in-house journal, Studies in Intelligence, the actual exit was much less dramatic. The Iranian customs official stamping passports at Tehran's Mehrabad International Airport "could not have cared less" when he stamped the fake passports and exit visas of "six Canadians, a European, and a Latin American" as they snuck out of the country and onto Swissair Flight SR 363

Argo is a movie- It is based on events- and Hoolwywood changes whatever they want to make it sell. And from reading ES's post it is selling quite well.

Here is another creature that is not real. Hate to burst that small bubble again.
 

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It is OK for you to do that?
Of course it is.

It's OK for EAO to...

Troll.
Insult.
Call people names.
Post material that he should know or ought to know is false or misleading.
Post material that promotes hatred.
Post bigoted commentary.
Attack peoples ethnicity.

And so on.

But be fore warned, if you do any of that to EAO, he will post thread after thread in attempts to degrade you, troll you, and demand you be banned.

Hypocrites are funny like that, lol.
 

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Here's a link to your post:
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/news/110514-argo-some-facts-behind-movie.html

In the final scenes of the "nail-biting political thriller" Argo -- the true story of how the CIA safely whisked six U.S. Embassy staffers out of Iran during the 1979 hostage crisis -- a group of Americans disguised as a film crew safely survives three passport checks, the canceling and uncanceling of plane tickets, and a runway car chase by the Revolutionary Guard. But according to the insider account published in 1999 by the CIA's in-house journal, Studies in Intelligence, the actual exit was much less dramatic. The Iranian customs official stamping passports at Tehran's Mehrabad International Airport "could not have cared less" when he stamped the fake passports and exit visas of "six Canadians, a European, and a Latin American" as they snuck out of the country and onto Swissair Flight SR 363.

Notwithstanding this "easy exit," the account written by CIA agent Antonio J. Mendez -- who is played by Ben Affleck in the film -- still reads like le Carré. Mendez and his team began by looking for "black" smuggling routes out of Iran, even studying billionaire Ross Perot's successful exfiltration of two of his employees from Iran the year before. But Mendez concluded that "using paramilitary means" to rescue the hostages "seemed impossible." (A year later, the Operation Eagle Claw fiasco proved him correct.) As such, the CIA's Directorate of Operations decided to smuggle the employees "in plain sight."

The eight (the other CIA agent was omitted from the film) then traveled to Mehrabad International Airport in Canadian Embassy transportation (the embassy had even composed a fake cable explaining that it had advised the movie crew to film elsewhere). The refugees dressed with Hollywood flair and sauntered through the airport, each having been drilled on the dates and details of their "legend." One wore a "'mod' blow dry … tight trousers with no pockets and a blue silk shirt unbuttoned down the front with his chest hair cradling a gold chain and medallion … his topcoat resting across his shoulders like a cape." The disguises worked to a T. After their fake visas and passports were stamped by the Iranian customs agents, the eight boarded their plane, which took off after a brief mechanical delay. To be safe, they waited until they were out of Iranian airspace to order bloody marys.

One "ironic coda" from the CIA account: "By the time Studio Six folded several weeks after the rescue, we had received 26 scripts.… One was from Steven Spielberg."


It sure looks like you referenced a quote which claims Argo is a true depiction of events. You never claimed your post was inaccurate.

I twisted nothing.
 

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I twisted nothing.
Except for the fact that Goober didn't say it. The article he posted did.

I care far more about Ken Taylor's place in history than the Oscars. If you ask anyone under 30 who saw this movie, Argot is... how did Goober put it....the true story of how the CIA safely whisked six U.S. Embassy staffers out of Iran during the 1979 hostage crisis .

You attributed it to Goober.

Which proves you are a liar and a troll.

How many times do I have to do this to you before you stop embarrassing yourself?
 

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If Goober didn't believe what he was referencing then he should have stated so. Otherwise he is endorsing the quote... as in agreeing with it.
 

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It sure looks like you referenced a quote which claims Argo is a true depiction of events. You never claimed your post was inaccurate.
Classic EAO back pedal.

If Goober didn't believe what he was referencing then he should have stated so. Otherwise he is endorsing the quote... as in agreeing with it.
BS.

He didn't reference anything, he posted an OP.

Keep trying liar.
 

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So let me get this straight.

Goober Starts a thread called "Argo - Some facts behind the movie" and quotes an article which claims Argo is "the true story of how the CIA safely whisked six U.S. Embassy staffers out of Iran during the 1979 hostage crisis"

And you interpret this as not Goober's opinion at the time he posted it.

Losers!
 

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So let me get this straight.

Goober Starts a thread called "Argo - Some facts behind the movie" and quotes an article which claims Argo is "the true story of how the CIA safely whisked six U.S. Embassy staffers out of Iran during the 1979 hostage crisis"

And you interpret this as not Goober's opinion at the time he posted it.

Losers!

Nope- Read the title.
 

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Nope- Read the title.

I did. You claim you posted some facts about the movie Argo. According to your referenced facts in that post, Canada isn't even mentioned.

...and then you have the gall to make these claims about me:

...Before the movie was made 95 % (and that is a low number) of Canadians knew SFA about the actual events. They may have been able to recall a few facts and by few less than 3. Yourself included.
And I included you as part of that 95 % plus, as others, a multitude I might add and myself have taken you to the woodshed on history and facts.
And in your opinion - Well your opinion has a very low bar for facts, common sense, knowledge and reality. Some of the things needed to have a decent opinion.
 

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I did. You claim you posted some facts about the movie Argo. According to your referenced facts in that post, Canada isn't even mentioned.

...and then you have the gall to make these claims about me:
Nope. I state facts based upon firm evidence. Something that is foreign to you.
 

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Is there any rule that says, that when you post and article that might interest people and start a discussion that you have to be in agreement with the writer of the article?????
Goober just posted a link to the article and pasted all or part of the article.....
He didn't post an opinion...the words were those of the article writer........
EAO should read what is written....not what he thinks is written......Bear rightfully calls it making stuff up.....EAO M.O.
 

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I see... so if I posted a reference to a load of BS like Goober did, you guys wouldn't rake me over the coals???? Or is it just Goober who can post erroneous information, claim its the facts at the time and then later back pedal when he realizes what he referenced was a load of BS

The fact is the CIA did not safely whisk the Americans out of Iran. Swiss Air did. The CIA only played a supporting role in the Canadian led rescue effort.

The real story behind the Great Canadian Caper:

On November 4, 1979, a large angry mob of Iranian students and militants overran the American embassy. Most of the staff of one US consulate building managed to escape into the streets of Tehran. The broke up into two groups. One group was captured right away and the other group of six made contact with the British embassy, whose staff hid them in their homes for the first six days. Then when Iranian government fell, and the British residences became too closely watched, the Brits contacted friendly embassies for help and accepted offers of assistance from Canada and Sweden. At which point Canadian Ambassador Ken Taylor took the leadership role in ensuring the safety of the Americans. For two weeks one American lived at the Swedish embassy until he joined the five other Americans hiding in the homes of Canadian diplomats. The American government was kept in the loop, but they had no effective presence in Iran and were helpless to assist their citizens.

The Americans initially considered a military style rescue operation but rejected the idea as too dangerous with a low probability of success. Instead they decided to accept a Canadian government offer to issue their citizens genuine Canadian passports and exit Iran disguised as Canadians. The CIA came up with the Argot movie cover story and created the related dummy corporations and offices. The CIA forged the Iranian travel visas which were sent via Canadian diplomatic courier to Tehran. When the forged visas arrived, a Canadian embassy staff member who was fluent in Farsi noticed the CIA forged Iranians visas had obvious errors including spelling mistakes delaying the escape attempt. The CIA got the Iranian visas right on the second attempt.

Canadian embassy staff helped the Americans learn their Canadian identities, work on Canadian accents and played Canadian trivia games. Canada booked tickets for the Americans out of Tehran on a Swiss air flight.

36 hours before the planned escape, CIA disguise and extraction expert, Tony Mendez, arrived in Tehran with all the supporting documents for the Argot cover story, appropriate clothing, and materials to change their appearance.

On the January 28, 1980, a New Zealand diplomat drove Mendez and the six Americans to the airport where they uneventfully passed through security, boarded the Swiss Air Flight and arrived in Zurich Switzerland.

While Mendez's skills were critical for the Americans' escape and he did take personal risks to help the Americans escape, Canadian Ambassador Ken Taylor played the leading role in what became known as The Great Canadian Caper.
 
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I may has watched it if Affleck wasn't in it.

As for the rest of you, can't you just be happy and proud knowing the true story?
 

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I see... so if I posted a reference to a load of BS like Goober did, you guys wouldn't rake me over the coals???? Or is it just Goober who can post erroneous information, claim its the facts at the time and then later back pedal when he realizes what he referenced was a load of BS

Das made it quite clear about the thread I posted.
As to you posting BS it is good to see that you admit that do post a ton of that. Now try to use credible sites for reference material
 

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I see... so if I posted a reference to a load of BS like Goober did, you guys wouldn't rake me over the coals???? Or is it just Goober who can post erroneous information, claim its the facts at the time and then later back pedal when he realizes what he referenced was a load of BS
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You're either dense or you can't read, or your english to islamic translator doesn't work well.
Goober didn't post eroneous information, He posted a news article for discussion...full stop
And you didn't need to copy and paste a long winded account of what happened back then ....we all know what it is.
Stop inventing stuff.....