Their Magnificent neighbor to the north

[CDNBear]

This event was a proud moment for Canadians. This movie takes that moment away.

I know you're just trolling, but I just have to point out, even though you're just trolling, that has to be the most idiotic post on this topic.

Jeezez, guys. It's a freakin movie, the Academy Awards, and Hollywood, not the history books or a National Geographic documentary. Lighten up. lmao

You'll have to forgive them, inventing outrage is something they do to fill the large holes in the lives.

 

[L Gilbert]

A snippet from the hostage...

[The filmmakers] actually taught people some history that's important ... and I think it's also just a fun film. I was not looking forward to sitting in a theater for two hours; I sat down, and the next thing I know, it's over. You know how it's going to end, but you still get pulled along by it.

Once you get your head wrapped around the fact that this is not about our situation in Tehran, it's about the CIA and Hollywood and how they worked to get us out, then you realize there's not much space there for character development on the Canadian side or character development of the six of us.

Geez the more I read your links the more I want to see it.

lol After seeing what you posted from EAO's links, I might see it now, too.

 

[Goober]

lol After seeing what you posted from EAO's links, I might see it now, too.

I say it a good movie but not Oscar. And as you stated earlier the Oscars is based upon other things aside from the movie.
Same with the Golden Globes.

 

[CDNBear]

lol After seeing what you posted from EAO's links, I might see it now, too.

Rent it.

It ain't bad. We had a long discussion about what really happened that made the boys proud about Canada.

And oddly enough, neither of them felt robbed of a Canadian moment. That's probably because even as kids, they're well aware of the fact that Hollywood doesn't represent reality.

 

[Goober]

Rent it.

It ain't bad. We had a long discussion about what really happened that made the boys proud about Canada.

And oddly enough, neither of them felt robbed of a Canadian moment. That's probably because even as kids, they're well aware of the fact that Hollywood doesn't represent reality.

Nice edit.

 

[CDNBear]

Nice edit.

Ya like that fix? lol. Damn typo's.

 

[L Gilbert]

Rent it.

It ain't bad. We had a long discussion about what really happened that made the boys proud about Canada.

And oddly enough, neither of them felt robbed of a Canadian moment. That's probably because even as kids, they're well aware of the fact that Hollywood doesn't represent reality.

Good grief, why would I rent it when I could stream it online? Haven't paid for a movie for years. lol Pretty much gone through all the IMDB 2011 list. Working on 2012 now.

Yep. The facts about the events are readily available and no-one rational takes Hollywood's version of things seriously. heheh

 

[Goober]

Ya like that fix? lol. Damn typo's.

Ya I liked that was going to PM ya.
Now who will think this is a movie based upon actual events.Over the age of 6 to 7 or so. But maxs out at age 10. Sounds fair to me.

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After the combined silliness and violence of Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters, I was happily surprised by the restraint shown in this latest foray into fairytale England. It’s still silly and violent — Jack slays giants, after all — but sprays of blood have been minimized, and the story, after constructing its own logic, sticks to it.

 

[EagleSmack]

I wonder what the six hostages who were rescued by the Canadian embassy staff thought of Assfleck's
movie. They would know what really happened

Well from the links that EAO provided the hostages really liked the movie.

Do you feel cheated?

 

[earth_as_one]

Jeezez, guys. It's a freakin movie, the Academy Awards, and Hollywood, not the history books or a National Geographic documentary. Lighten up. lmao

Of course I am well aware its a movie. But I am also aware of the power of movies to shape perceptions. Opinions are based on perceptions.

I just find some individual Americans to be arrogant towards Canadians and full of themselves. This movie reinforces that perception I have and I doubt this movie will do much to make some individual Americans less arrogant or less full of themselves.

Too bad... because an accurate portrayal of the Great Canadian Caper could have been a good thing for American perceptions of Canada and promoted good relations. I'm just surprised more Canadians aren't offended that this movie portrayed Ken Taylor, the true hero of this story, as a polite and helpful lackey.

I guess it could have been worse... They could have portrayed Taylor and his assistant John Sheardown as beer swilling Bob or Doug McKenzie-like hosers from the Great White North.

Ken Taylor, and Canadian immigration officer John Sheardown

What difference would it make? Its just a movie?

 

[CDNBear]

But I am also aware of the power of movies to shape perceptions.

Only the perceptions of the weak minded.

Which would explain your issues.

This movie reinforces that perception I have and I doubt this movie will do much to make Americans less arrogant or less full of themselves.

I love it when your broad sweeping generalizations expose you for what you are, lol.

 

[earth_as_one]

A typo CB. I was specific in the first reference and accidentally generalized in the second as you are well aware by your selective cut and paste. Its been corrected in the second instance that you selectively referenced.

...and yes many (not all) Americans have inaccurate stereotypical perceptions of Canadians, because of movies like Argo.

It wasn't that long ago, that most of what people knew about First Nations people came from the old Hollywood Western movies. That perception changed when the movies like "Dances With Wolves" came out, which more accurately depicted a pre-assimilation First Nation culture.

The history of Native Americans in the movies is a complicated one, with portrayals ranging from dignified to downright insulting. The same can be said for the history of the race itself, with the indigenous peoples of North America frequently vilified and sometimes out-and-out eradicated as settlers pursued the concept of Manifest Destiny.

Luckily, cinematic depictions of Indians as stock villains waiting to be dispatched by the white, hat-wearing hero have lessened over the years, although some of this can be attributed to the decline of the Western genre as much as an increase in cultural sensitivity.
http://www.onlygoodmovies.com/educational/native-americans/

 

[EagleSmack]

...and yes many (not all) Americans have inaccurate stereotypical perceptions of Canadians, because of movies like Argo.

Your posts haven't helped much. They seem to support the movie over the whinning.

In other news...

I guess it could have been worse... They could have portrayed Taylor and his assistant John Sheardown as beer swilling Bob or Doug McKenzie-like hosers from the Great White North.

Whose Sheardown? What does he have to do with Ben Affleck's Oscar winning movie?

...and yes many (not all) Americans have inaccurate stereotypical perceptions of Canadians, because of movies like Argo.

To be honest... most Americans don't think ANYTHING about Canadians. Most Americans will go their whole lives and not think about Canada once. Not once.

Feel better?

 

[Goober]

Of course I am well aware its a movie. But I am also aware of the power of movies to shape perceptions. Opinions are based on perceptions.

I will add to that- Your facts are based upon fallacies to put it mildly- your facts are based upon what suits your purpose and that is certainly Fact.

I just find some individual Americans to be arrogant towards Canadians and full of themselves. This movie reinforces that perception I have and I doubt this movie will do much to make some individual Americans less arrogant or less full of themselves.

I find a number of Canadians look down their nose at Americans and think they are superior to all things American. I find that some on this Forum, you come to mind have a Hate The US Agenda. Again Fact

Too bad... because an accurate portrayal of the Great Canadian Caper could have been a good thing for American perceptions of Canada and promoted good relations. I'm just surprised more Canadians aren't offended that this movie portrayed Ken Taylor, the true hero of this story, as a polite and helpful lackey.

The idea is to make money, make money, make money. Do you not understand that?

I guess it could have been worse... They could have portrayed Taylor and his assistant John Sheardown as beer swilling Bob or Doug McKenzie-like hosers from the Great White North.

Oh such biting wit you have.

What difference would it make? Its just a movie?

Are you finally understanding it was a movie. Doubt it. Oh when copying my posts stop the selective crap. Did not hear your usual nonsensical reply on that one. Your beady little eye must have missed that one.

What a big forehead you have

 

[CDNBear]

A typo CB.

No it wasn't, unless countless posts in countless threads contain the same typo's, lol.

I was specific in the first reference and accidentally generalized in the second as you are well aware by your selective cut and paste. Its been corrected in the second instance that you selectively referenced.

I'll be sure to wait an hour before I point out your bigotry in the future.

That way you can't go and hide so you can keep your facade in tact, not that it matters anymore.

We all know what you are, lol.

...and yes many (not all) Americans have inaccurate stereotypical perceptions of Canadians, because of movies like Argo.

You mean Americans don't think we're there for them in a pinch?

 

[EagleSmack]

Too bad... because an accurate portrayal of the Great Canadian Caper could have been a good thing for American perceptions of Canada and promoted good relations.

It probably wouldn't have won an Oscar.

"Hey Jack... what do you think that Ken Taylor guy is doing now?"
"Ken who?"
(they all laugh)

I'm just surprised more Canadians aren't offended that this movie portrayed Ken Taylor, the true hero of this story, as a polite and helpful lackey.

They have better things to do.

 

[earth_as_one]

What difference does a fictitious portrayal make? Inaccurate portrayals don't affect people's perceptions.


Indian Myth vs Reality

Close your eyes and note what comes to mind when you hear the words "American Indian." No matter your political leanings and cultural sensitivity, the dominant images most people see are feathers, war paint, bows and arrows, buffalos, horses, teepees, beads, animal skins, and warfare. These images are a manifestation of cultural programming by adventure movies, books, photographs, museum exhibitions, films, television shows and documentaries.
Common Stereotypes:
* Chief: the head of a tribe
* Brave or Buck: an Indian man
* Princess: the daughter of a chief
* Squaw: all other Indian women
* Papoose: an Indian baby
* Savage: all Indians
* Renegade: Indians who refuse to be confined on a reservation and are at war with whites
* The Noble Savage: Indians who are close to Nature
Western novelist Larry McMurtry described the vast gap between myth and reality in the depiction of the West in popular culture. "Most of the traditions which we associate with the American West," he wrote, "were invented by pulp writers, poster artists, impresarios, and advertising men."
Redface! - The History of Racist American Indian Stereotypes
​

 

[L Gilbert]

Hollywood: caveat emptor. (Or; there's a sucker born every minute).

 

[CDNBear]

What difference does a fictitious portrayal make? Inaccurate portrayals don't affect people's perceptions.


Indian Myth vs Reality

Close your eyes and note what comes to mind when you hear the words "American Indian." No matter your political leanings and cultural sensitivity, the dominant images most people see are feathers, war paint, bows and arrows, buffalos, horses, teepees, beads, animal skins, and warfare. These images are a manifestation of cultural programming by adventure movies, books, photographs, museum exhibitions, films, television shows and documentaries.
Common Stereotypes:
* Chief: the head of a tribe
* Brave or Buck: an Indian man
* Princess: the daughter of a chief
* Squaw: all other Indian women
* Papoose: an Indian baby
* Savage: all Indians
* Renegade: Indians who refuse to be confined on a reservation and are at war with whites
* The Noble Savage: Indians who are close to Nature
Western novelist Larry McMurtry described the vast gap between myth and reality in the depiction of the West in popular culture. "Most of the traditions which we associate with the American West," he wrote, "were invented by pulp writers, poster artists, impresarios, and advertising men."
Redface! - The History of Racist American Indian Stereotypes
​

Always going after my ethnicity, lol, tell me again how you aren't a bigot?

 

[earth_as_one]

Don't play dumb. You know damn well my point is about the impact movies have on perceptions, using an example I thought you could relate to personally.

In response you make a pathetic and transparent effort to twist my words. That's lame...