We cannot even agree on basic morality (what ever that may be), how could we ever be able to agree on principles. :smile:
Ted Kennedy's "Seat" goes to the Republicans
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We cannot even agree on basic morality (what ever that may be), how could we ever be able to agree on principles. :smile:
You know EagleSmack, we never even had a hint that Coakley was running a campaign like that in Mass. Looks like our nice impartial media again hid something from the rest of the country. I want to congratulate you for saying "The party of JFK is a shadow of the Democrat Party of today". Never thought to draw a comparison, how right you are.
This should answer any questions about principles or morality from our leaders.
GEUSS WHICH ONE...........??????????
GEUSS WHICH ONE...........??????????
She thought she had it in the bag! After she won the Democrat Primary she went on vacation!
Scott hit the streets and drove all over the state.
At the end of last week they REALLY got the message that it wasn't in the bag as they expected and Obama needed to make an emergency flight up to Massachusetts. The best they could think of is making fun of his truck. Obama couldn't even help in the Bluest of Blue states.
Scott Brown won against Martha Coakley because he is a man with a "big truck"(compensating 4 something?lol.Sorry,bad political jk, hold on ladies).
Democrates should've run someone more like T.Kennedy ...Like Scott Brown...or The Lovely Lady Caroline Kennedy ....Oh well, at least Obama Democrates found a scapegoat for his health Care reform bill.Now Dems can blame Republicans for the health bills poor and fading demise...Unless he can get Scott Brown to think independently on this 1 and help revive it.That, Or wait a Couple weeks until he sees Brown Hitch Hikin' on the side of the road, his truck broken down, lookin' for a ride.
Makes me wonder if the Dems really wanted/or really cared about health care reform/or Kennedy's Seat at all...Same ol same ol'..No Back bone,No passion, or will ...So it would seem..Come on Obama . "Yes We Can!"
Democrates should've run someone more like T.Kennedy ...Like Scott Brown...or The Lovely Lady Caroline Kennedy ....Oh well, at least Obama Democrates found a scapegoat for his health Care reform bill.Now Dems can blame Republicans for the health bills poor and fading demise...Unless he can get Scott Brown to think independently on this 1 and help revive it.That, Or wait a Couple weeks until he sees Brown Hitch Hikin' on the side of the road, his truck broken down, lookin' for a ride.
Makes me wonder if the Dems really wanted/or really cared about health care reform/or Kennedy's Seat at all...Same ol same ol'..No Back bone,No passion, or will ...So it would seem..Come on Obama . "Yes We Can!"
She was hand picked. All of her handlers were Kennedy's people. That is who was chosen... Martha.
Nah... there was no conspiracy. They got creamed and that was that. They only have themselves to blame
We'll have to wait and see how the future plays out ..I think Caroline will go for her pops seat if she isn't elected pres..After Obama's 8 yrs of course..Which I admit would be tough ...Usually goes Dem-Rep-Dem...But Who knows..
When she wants it..She will get it .Positively .In true Kennedy fashion
When she wants it..She will get it .Positively .In true Kennedy fashion
To be fair, the #1 promise was healthcare.
and theissue is, no one wants to invest in a country without healthcare for the working populace. Its too expensive to give healthcare to your workers and even if you do, the second you need it, its gone.
Im not talking about health care from an employee perspective, Im talking about it from an employer perspective. You know why employers don't like you taking sick days? Even unpaid ones? Because they need you to generate wealth at your job, every employee generates or saves more money than they cost in wages. If they don't, they don't have a job. Any business that looks to stay in business needs to be able to insure its assets (ie workers), if the people I pay to keep my workers coming into work on time gets to say "F You" every time I need them, what the hell am I keeping jobs in this dumphole for.
If Im a company and I pay a lawyer a retainer, I expect him to be available when I get sued. If I pay a car insurance company full theft insurance, I expect a new truck when my transport gets boosted and repayment for the lost cargo. Likewise if I pay a health insurance company to get my engineers back to work when they get sick, I expect them to get my engineers back to work.
Them being able to say "pre-existing condition" is no different than the lawyer saying "I don't want to take a losing case" or the Car insurance company going "Well I don't want to pay you".
The USA is a festering ****hole in need of reform, its third world country laws that have never had to adjust to its thriving economy and the work ethic of its people.
Much like a plane at 40,000 feet you can turn off your engines and glide for awhile, you can even laugh at those people with engines on at 10,000 feet and claim they don't know what they are talking about. After all, you are still at 38,000 feet and you don't need to turn your engines on, and they are only at 12,000 feet with their engines on. Why burn fuel? You're doing fine at 35,000 feet and they are wasting money and being worse then you at a measly 15,000 feet.
But we all know how that turns out, sooner or later you have to turn the engines on or end up like a smear on the ground.
Without a public health care option(universal health care 4 all) there is no option...All U.S politicians know this battle
Clinton played the same game..
It's Called Game theory
Clinton played the same game..
It's Called Game theory
From what I understand a large number of Dems up for reelection shortly had to replace their underwear as they are literally ****xing themselves -
The massive expenditures and huge debt that Obama undertook does not sit well with the average citizen - Obama was and is a great speaker - always gave him that - But he took his win as a massive show of support from the electorate - when it was really people tired of Bush - watch the retraction on policies that were started - Pelosi - useless she is - stated today that health care would not pass and would have to be changed - more to come on other policies - Obama is in trouble - big trouble - Not all his fault but he is now president and will have to shelve some planned radical changes -
Good point. However to be fair to Obama much of the debt he undertook was previously arranged by the Bush administration. All he did was carry on with a process that his predecessor started.
Also I always find it interesting when I look at US politics to note what is considered radical. Essentially there is very little that is radical about anything Obama has proposed; unless catching up with the rest of the world is regarded as radical. Unfortunately, what Obama faces in his efforts to rationalize many of the problems the US faces is an electorate that had been told over and over that everything in the US is the best there is. Given the fact that most Americans have swallowed this myth it is not surprising that they are resistant to any change, especially since much of the media has taken a hostile approach to any change no matter how rational or how badly needed it is. This has been reinforced by a political system that long ago sold its soul to corporate interests.
As for Obama' s "landslide" victory, it really was only a landslide by US standards. To outside observers it was a hard fought close victory. Real landslides change more than three percent of the sitting members and that is all the Democrats achieved. And like most elections, the vote was only partly about Obama receiving widespread support. You are certainly right when you point out that many of those voting for Obama were actually rejecting George Bush and the Republicans. That is the way it is in most elections; it is really a case of one party losing the election rather than another party winning it.
I would not count Obama out yet. He still has another three and very likely another seven years to carry out his plans. What he needs to do is once again activate the very successful network he established that got him elected. As Ronald Reagan proved a president can initiate a number of successful programs without the full support of Congress. If I remember correctly Reagan never did enjoy a majority in both houses when he was president, but he put in motion policies that are still being carried out today.
The way the system was set up, the way Tommy Douglas envisioned it was a great system. What consequent governments have done to it is a crime. In BC, Campbell gutted the system and created havoc, closing hospitals and laying off staff, privatizing cleaning and food departments and centralizing hospitals so that now, remote communities like Nakusp have to drive over two hours to get to any sort of specialist or to get minor surgery. I had to take a four hour ambulance ride to Kelowna when I had heart failure. This is not how the system was designed. It is no longer equitable and the medical system itself is self abusive.
True. Then it needs to be put back in order, as it was and is a good system. The conservatives in Ont. took money from health care, demonized it, then said, "see, it doesn't work'........ Libs no better.
It takes money, lots of it, but people are worth it. We don't need HMO's and private systems which take one's money, then won't pay.
woops, hijack. Back to Ted's seat.............:roll: Someone lost, right?
Here is a copy of a letter I just received from my nephew who lives in Boston.
... for possibly the first time in a many days, today I woke up feeling proud to be a resident of the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts ... what a great Tuesday night it was watching the election results come in... all this after they said a Republican couldn't be elected to "Ted Kennedy's Senate seat"... I guess they forgot that it's the People's seat... glad we had Scott Brown to remind them... even the Messiahs' visit on Sunday couldn't save that bitch Coakley... I couldn't even get close to the polls yesterday... total gridlock... parked downtown and walked a mile in the snow to vote for Scott Brown... grabbed a campaign sign and proudly walked past the cars sitting in traffic on the way back to my car... beeps, waves and thumbs up... you could feel the change in the air... it was palpable... change we can believe in... the rising of the tide of discontent... I was so proud to be a part of it... how fitting that the birthplace of American freedom and independence should fire the next shot heard around the world... and start the new revolution!
I hope it puts Obama and the rest of his arrogant cronies, like that useless deranged old hippie Next Tuesday Nancy Pelosi, on notice. Start packing your bags, YOU'RE FIRED! I also hope that fat, bloated, drunken, melon headed, corrupt donkey Ted Kennedy is rolling over in his grave at the probably death of his life's work... socialist heath care.
It all just seemed so right and fitting that this should happen of the eve of Obama's first anniversary in office. Watch this video, it's beautiful! We can't forget come November! It's time to take back the country. I'll let you tell Bonnie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZs8k4pJcyk
Love,
Kevin
... for possibly the first time in a many days, today I woke up feeling proud to be a resident of the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts ... what a great Tuesday night it was watching the election results come in... all this after they said a Republican couldn't be elected to "Ted Kennedy's Senate seat"... I guess they forgot that it's the People's seat... glad we had Scott Brown to remind them... even the Messiahs' visit on Sunday couldn't save that bitch Coakley... I couldn't even get close to the polls yesterday... total gridlock... parked downtown and walked a mile in the snow to vote for Scott Brown... grabbed a campaign sign and proudly walked past the cars sitting in traffic on the way back to my car... beeps, waves and thumbs up... you could feel the change in the air... it was palpable... change we can believe in... the rising of the tide of discontent... I was so proud to be a part of it... how fitting that the birthplace of American freedom and independence should fire the next shot heard around the world... and start the new revolution!
I hope it puts Obama and the rest of his arrogant cronies, like that useless deranged old hippie Next Tuesday Nancy Pelosi, on notice. Start packing your bags, YOU'RE FIRED! I also hope that fat, bloated, drunken, melon headed, corrupt donkey Ted Kennedy is rolling over in his grave at the probably death of his life's work... socialist heath care.
It all just seemed so right and fitting that this should happen of the eve of Obama's first anniversary in office. Watch this video, it's beautiful! We can't forget come November! It's time to take back the country. I'll let you tell Bonnie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZs8k4pJcyk
Love,
Kevin
When I was young (and even stupider than I am now) I thought that if Gov't. ran something, it had to be cheaper than if some private guy ran it and we had to pay profits. With Gov't you get too much stuff not directly involved with the business they are trying to do. You ever notice how anything Gov't. attracts Unions?