Israeli court rejects US activist's family lawsuit

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This francophone comedian,was attacked a few years ago by 4 jews,who did not like his humor.

In his shows he poked fun at all religions,christianity,islam and hebrew,but somehow the ones who bitched alot about his shows,were jewish,who branded him an anti semite and a racist,without listening to the entire show,in which one of his funniest part mocked "La fine équipe du 11" The finest team of 11" about 9/11,and how screwed up the religious wanking of extremists,who blows themselves up thinking they will frak 72 virgins in heaven.

By now all the virgins left in islamic heaven are all bearded. :lol:
 

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Following that logic, then you must also support killing social workers who also work with groups that have murdered people.

The fact is Rachel Corrie never hurt anyone. She was against violence and acts of terrorism. Yet she was ran over by a bulldozer whose operator was intent on demolishing people's homes and their lives. Initially our news didn't cover this murder/accident until it became too big to ignore.

Some people here seem to believe all the lies spread about Rachel Corrie and the ISM, even though they defy common sense.

The bulldozer operator who killed Rachel Corrie likely knew that he was running over someone in a bright orange jacket, screaming at him with a bullhorn and didn't care. That would make him a murderer. The Israeli criminal justice system seldom holds Israelis who murder Palestinians accountable for their actions.

Hey ES, how is wanting all war criminals to be held accountable for their crimes "joo hating". Do you believe that all Jews are war criminals???? And you are trying to pin me with a joo-hating label... that's a load of BS.

EAO....if you support the enemies of western civilization, if you co-operate eagerly with violent lunatics, if you allow yourself to be used as a shield, a propaganda tool, and if you enter a military zone fully intending to disrupt military operations YOU ARE an enemy.....it matters little whether or not your weapon is an Kalishnikov or the media.

If she was too ****ing stupid to get out of the way of a military bulldozer in the middle of a war zone, then her death was not murder, it was suicide.

That is the reality.
 
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The Canada Free Press... because without America, there is no free world...

Hardly sounds Canadian. and that's the first clue that the website is a load of BS. I saw the pictures of the alleged ISM members holding weapons and read the article which is long on allegations, but short on proof.

Assuming the people in the photos are members of the ISM, they are posing for a picture with a rifle. That isn't the same as using it. I doubt the ISM would approve of the bad judgement of these individuals who failed to consider the optics of these photos.

Tell you what IM, show me a picture of the members of the ISM actually firing a weapon in a fire fight with the IDF or anyone else, and I'd accept your point. But I read that article and it uses a number of deceptive techniques. Or how about an incident where the IDF claims members of the ISM fought a battle with the IDF along side the militants.

The rifles in the article with claims that ISM used violence, implies that they used rifles to commit acts of violence. But read the article carefully and you'll see that they never actually make that claim that the ISM members used rifles for violence. The image creates that association not the words.

The article claims that some ISM members resorted to violence but is deliberately vague, which is suspicious.

The article also references the incident where the IDF arrested a member of the Islamic Jihad in a "house" rented by the ISM.... The ISM version of that incident is that it was raining when a wet person came into their "office" soaking wet and they gave them a towel to dry off. The person happened to be a member of the Islamic Jihad who was out after curfew and was being chased through the streets by the IDF... not because he attacked someone, but because he was out after curfew.... The IDF burst into the ISM office and arrested the "terrorist" for being out after curfew. If the IDF had grounds to believe the ISM had done anything wrong, I'm sure they would have been arrested too. This article twists that nothing incident into sounding sinister... which proves this source is deliberately manipulative.

I don't know for certain what kind of "violence" the CFP references, but likely its also as deceptive as the rest of the article.

EAO....if you support the enemies of western civilization, if you co-operate eagerly with violent lunatics, if you allow yourself to be used as a shield, a propaganda tool, and if you enter a military zone fully intending to disrupt military operations YOU ARE an enemy.....it matters little whether or not your weapon is an Kalishnikov or the media.

If she was too ****ing stupid to get out of the way of a military bulldozer in the middle of a war zone, then her death was not murder, it was suicide.

That is the reality.

That man in Tienanmen Square who stopped a column of tanks by using himself as a human shield... Was he also ****ing stupid or brave?



The enemies of western civilian are people who start unprovoked wars which slaughter hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians at taxpayer expense for the benefit of big oil companies. I don't recommend cooperating with those violent lunatics either, let alone re-electing them.

I don't support violence, but I certainly support people knowing what our violent lunatics are doing in the name defending Western civilization but in reality using our service men and women as poorly paid mercenaries fighting for big oil and religious zealots who believe God gave them land in Palestine.

BTW, I support freedom of religion up to the point where one persons religious beliefs infringe on the rights and freedoms of others.

I also support capitalism, up to the point where corporate greed violates the rights and freedoms of others.
 
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The Canada Free Press... because without America, there is no free world...

EAO- If you support a Terror Org. as Hamas is then you cannot pick oh I will support this, but not that, oh yes and perhaps a tad of this and that. You support a Terrorist organization- You support their policies.

Try to make posts shorter instead of posting a GD Book. People may read more of it
 

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The Canada Free Press... because without America, there is no free world...

Hardly sounds Canadian. and that's the first clue that the website is a load of BS. I saw the pictures of the alleged ISM members holding weapons and read the article which is long on allegations, but short on proof.

Assuming the people in the photos are members of the ISM, they are posing for a picture with a rifle. That isn't the same as using it. I doubt the ISM would approve of the bad judgement of these individuals who failed to consider the optics of these photos.

Yeah because peace activist always pose for pictures brandishing weapons with known terrorists.

Truth hurts doesn't it EAO?

They're just filled with hate for Israel just like you.
 

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Can you please post a link showing that Rachel Corrie supported any acts of violence including terrorism. Otherwise "What Petros said"

BTW, where did you get the mistaken impression that Rachel Corrie supported terrorism?

From your link and Goober's.
ISM supports anti jewish terrorists therefore anyone that supports ISM supports terrorists.
 

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For the record, I support universal human rights, freedom and justice everywhere including Israel and the occupied territories. I am agnostic and support freedom of religion. I oppose all forms of religious based hatred including Antisemitism and Islamaphobia. I do not hate Jews, Israelis or anyone based on their religion or nationality. IN fact, I don't hate anyone, including the people here who constantly hound me with their false claims and allegations. I admit that I find their false claims and accusations repugnant and offensive, which is why the some people here like to keep pushing that button and while I I keep defending myself. I've never made a defamatory remark against Jews, Israelis or any other religion or nationality. Anyone who reads what I write rather than what simply believes what people write about me knows I simply do not have these hateful opinions or beliefs that are constantly attributed to me.

I like to expose deliberate lies and manipulative BS which is used to provide cover and support for oppression, injustice, religious intolerance, war crimes and crimes against humanity. The Israeli/Palestinian conflict has no equal regarding the number of elaborate lies and deceptions which have worked so effectively to manipulate the masses into support oppression, injustice, war crimes and crimes against humanity. If another conflict had as many effective lies and manipulations, I'd be on that conflict too. But this conflict is by far the one where what Canadians know is mostly based on one side's version, as well as deliberate and elaborate deceptions, selective truths and bold faced lies. I admit to deriving satisfaction from exposing the lies and deceptions which are designed to manipulate good people into supporting oppression, injustice, war crimes and crimes against humanity.

ES's link is real prime grade A example of the manipulative propaganda regarding this conflict. His link appears to prove that the ISM are armed terrorist supporters, which if you dig a little you'll find is a ridiculous perception which even the article doesn't even claim directly. But the wording is so precise, that a careful reading reveals the author Lee Kaplan never actually makes this claim, but they do create this perception, which is why its such a good piece of propaganda. Kaplan is a very talented propagandist. I'll post the link at the bottom of this post to ES's reference to Kaplan's propaganda piece. Such a fine piece of deliberately manipulative propaganda is a worthwhile read after you've read the ISM version of events which exposes Kaplan's manipulations and debunks his false allegations with critical thinking.

Regarding the photos. I can confirm that some of the people in the photos later became ISM volunteers. But the image was taken before these people joined the ISM volunteers and completed mandatory ISM training. The person with the obscured face is a plant who attempted to infiltrate the ISM. His objective was to dig up dirt on the ISM and sabotage their creditability. The infiltrator never made it into the ISM but he got close to these future ISM volunteers. He arranged the photo op with the rifles and encouraged the future ISM volunteers to join him in the photos. He encouraged them to hold the weapons and they naively obliged. Had these people completed the ISM mandatory training they would not have gone near a firearm let alone posed for pictures with firearms.

The ISM version of that incident and other false allegations:

Is it true that ISM volunteers were photographed holding guns and posing with members of armed resistance groups?

No. At ISM’s training in Palestine, as a condition for joining ISM in Palestine, all activists are required to commit to supporting only non-violent resistance. At the training, all activists are also instructed never to touch any weapon, or even anything that resembles a weapon.

In September 2006, photos were posted on the internet showing five foreigners posing with members of the Palestinian police in Jericho while holding their weapons, along with the claim that four of the foreigners were volunteers with the ISM. The article accompanying the photos also claimed that the fifth, unnamed foreigner (whose name we have since learned is Paul Cinato) with the obscured face in the photos went undercover in order to try and sabotage those, such as the ISM, who support Palestinian non-violent resistance.

At the time the photographs were taken, these individuals had not yet become ISM volunteers. They went to Jericho of their own volition without coordinating or discussing their plans with the International Solidarity Movement. They had not attended ISM’s mandatory intensive non-violence training and were new to the country. The fifth foreigner encouraged them to join him in the photographs and have their pictures taken holding guns. These individuals regrettably followed his lead.

Upon learning of this incident, ISM activists informed these individuals that touching weapons violates ISM?s policies and that they would not be permitted to volunteer unless they agreed never to handle weapons. All except Cinato apologized and deleted the photographs of future ISM volunteers. Cinato did not attend ISM training and subsequently disappeared. Following their training, the others worked diligently and without incident with the ISM and Palestinian communities in support of non-violent direct action.

Frequently Asked Questions


Does ISM protect terrorists?

Those who wish to silence our voices have accused the ISM of “harboring and protecting terrorists.”� The Israeli government has worked to make every Palestinian man, woman and child out to be a suspected “terrorist”� This is the Israeli government’s justification for the brutal force it has been using against a largely unarmed population. It is the rationale for using collective punishment, for keeping Palestinians locked up in their towns and villages, and for stripping people of their human rights. The ISM supports Palestinian communities in protesting collective punishments such as checkpoints, roadblocks, massive round-ups, curfews and home demolitions, and encourages popular nonviolent actions against them. For this reason, volunteers with the ISM are falsely accused of “protecting terrorists.”�

There are two specific incidents which are often cited in attempts to discredit the ISM:

The arrest of Shadi Sukia.
The visit paid to the ISM office in Rafah by two British citizens who later carried out an attack in Tel Aviv.

The first incident occurred on March 27th 2003. Jenin had been placed under a military curfew for several days. Israeli military patrols were arresting people on site regardless of their reason for being out of their homes. 23-year-old Shadi Sukiya appeared at the ISM office in Jenin in the middle of the night. He was soaking wet, shivering and terrified. The ISM members present did not speak sufficient Arabic and Sukiya spoke no English. He was given a change of clothes, a hot drink and a blanket.

Soon afterward Israeli soldiers entered the building and arrested Sukiya. The soldiers that entered the ISM office systematically damaged much of the personal belongings of the ISM volunteers there. Despite later claims that they had been in a dangerous situation, the soldiers took the time to pile the volunteers’ clothing on the floor and break raw eggs on top of them. In briefings made to the Associated Press, the Israeli military claimed that Sukiya was senior member of the Islamic Jihad, a pistol had been discovered in the ISM office and that two ISM volunteers were hiding Sukiya. By the time that the military left the building and the immediate area, all of the ISM volunteers in Jenin were present either in the office or outside the building. None of them were detained, arrested or even seriously questioned, indicating the absurdity of the later claims made by the military.

When asked for proof of the allegations, the military changed its story: “The information originally released was wrong,” said an Israeli military spokesperson and it was now “unclear” where the pistol had been found. Somewhat chastened, the Associated Press, which had originally run the story, published a retraction on March 29th 2003, entitled “Army backtracks on details about militant arrest at International Solidarity Movement.”

The second incident occurred on Friday, April 25th, 2003 when the ISM held a public memorial service for Rachel Corrie, an American ISM volunteer crushed to death by an Israeli military bulldozer. About 15 minutes prior to the service a group of six British citizens arrived at the ISM apartment including two young British Muslims, Asif Hanif and Omar Khan Sharif. The other four British citizens were hoping to organize a summer camp in Gaza in conjunction with local Palestinians from Rafah, three Italians, and some others. The ISM group of five people offered the visitors tea, and after about 15 minutes of small talk everyone left to attend the service. Anyone – Palestinian, Israeli or international – was free to come and pay their respects. Hanif and Sharif were later described as a quiet pair, saying little except to claim that they were “alternative tourists.” A few minutes after the service began, an Israeli military tank appeared and used smoke and tear gas to scatter the mourners. Hanif and Sharif left and were not seen by or in contact with anyone with the ISM again.

Shortly thereafter, the two carried out a suicide bombing. Their entire association with ISM had been for less than an hour. Before attending the service, the two had never made contact with the ISM, never registered to join us and never attended our mandatory training and orientation.

In November 2008, London newspaper the Jewish Chronicle published a letter falsely claiming that ISM activist Raphael Cohen had “sheltered” the bombers. Raph sued the newspaper and in April 2009 won £30,000 in damages (plus an apology and legal costs) in the British high court (see press coverage in The Guardian and the Press Gazette). Raph donated part of his damages to the ISM.

The claim that the International Solidarity Movement “protects terrorists” is untrue and is only maintained by those who seek to discredit the thousands of principled volunteers from around the world who are bearing witness to the cruelty of occupation and working non-violently to bring it to an end. It is one of a series of claims that attempts to discredit ISM volunteers and should not be taken seriously.


Frequently Asked Questions

What about Rachel Corrie? Wasn’t she killed while trying to protect a house with a tunnel in it used to smuggle arms to terrorists?

No.
Rachel killed while attempting to save the house of a pharmacist, Dr. Samir Nasrallah of Rafah in the Gaza Strip. The Israeli military has never shown any evidence of a tunnel under Dr. Nasrallah’s house or even in the surrounding area. Sadly, the house was finally demolished in September 2003, leaving Dr. Nasrallah and his family to join the thousands of other Palestinian civilians made homeless by the Israeli military and government over the past 35 years.

Recently, Rachel’s family have dedicated a foundation in her name committed to conflict resolution and advocacy for Palestinian rights. They are currently engaged in law suits aimed at both the Israeli government and the Caterpillar corporation which makes the militarized D9 armored bulldozer that was used to kill Rachel.

For more information on Rachel’s life and death as well as the work her family is pursuing for peace and justice, visit The Rachel Corrie Foundation for Peace and Justice

Frequently Asked Questions

You’re just anti-Semitic, aren’t you?

No.
Our number of active volunteers varies, but conservative estimates are that 15-20% of them are Jewish. Many Jewish organizations, both within and outside Israel, support the aims and efforts of the ISM. Two of the ISM’s founders, Neta Golan (Israeli) and Adam Shapiro (USA) are Jewish. The ISM is opposed to the continuing illegal occupation of the Palestinian people, the land confiscation, the checkpoints, the house raids, the assassinations, curfews, closures, house demolitions and other forms of collective punishment and humiliation the Israeli government and military force upon a largely defenseless population; the ISM is not opposed to any person, group or political entity based on race, religion or ethnicity.

Frequently Asked Questions

After the ISM's version of events, I encourage people to read ES's referenced link:
ISM photographed with guns and Al Aksa terrorist: Will the world do something now?

Its real primo grade A #1 propaganda. For more about the talented propagandist who wrote ES's referenced propaganda piece:

Lee Kaplan, Dafka Exposed : Indybay
 
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Frequently Asked Questions

What about Rachel Corrie? Wasn’t she killed while trying to protect a house with a tunnel in it used to smuggle arms to terrorists?

No. Rachel killed while attempting to save the house of a pharmacist, Dr. Samir Nasrallah of Rafah in the Gaza Strip. The Israeli military has never shown any evidence of a tunnel under Dr. Nasrallah’s house or even in the surrounding area. Sadly, the house was finally demolished in September 2003, leaving Dr. Nasrallah and his family to join the thousands of other Palestinian civilians made homeless by the Israeli military and government over the past 35 years.

Recently, Rachel’s family have dedicated a foundation in her name committed to conflict resolution and advocacy for Palestinian rights. They are currently engaged in law suits aimed at both the Israeli government and the Caterpillar corporation which makes the militarized D9 armored bulldozer that was used to kill Rachel.

For more information on Rachel’s life and death as well as the work her family is pursuing for peace and justice, visit The Rachel Corrie Foundation for Peace and Justice


These people are not just looney, they are attention seekers. Suing the manufacturer of a machine because their kid was stupid enough to jump in front of it is not about justice. It is a hunt for money and notoriety.
 

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I think risking your life to fight of freedom and justice is courageous and admirable. I'm not claiming I agree with ISM or support everything they do. I support non-violent resistance to defeat oppression and injustice and it appears that the ISM does too.

I find taxslave's claim that Rachel Corrie killed herself for money both offensive and ridiculous.
 

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I think risking your life to fight of freedom and justice is courageous and admirable. I'm not claiming I agree with ISM or support everything they do. I support non-violent resistance to defeat oppression and injustice and it appears that the ISM does too.

I find taxslave's claim that Rachel Corrie killed herself for money both offensive and ridiculous.

I find your constant defense of terrorist organizations offensive.
I never said she killed herself for money, only that her parents are using her death to get rich.
 

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Depends on who's side you're on I suppose. EAO will blame Israel no matter what. As vile of a person I think she is I wished she still lived. However she got herself in deep and immersed herself in hatred of Israel and her own country and paid the price for that hate. Her parents are still paying the price for the selfishness of their daughter.
As a rich girl instead of living the life of luxury and contributing to mindless consumption of material objects she actually goes to a foreign country, a war torn area in fact and tries to help the less fortunate. Inexplicably this cro magnon believes that she is "vile" and selfish for doing so.
 

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Also if the parents were attempt to get rich, why would they sue for $1.00?

Rachel's parents, who had sued for a symbolic one US dollar in damages, compensation has never been the issue. It has always, they say, been about justice for their daughter and the Palestinian cause she passionately defended until her last breath.

Life of crushed US activist Rachel Corrie not worth $1: Israeli court - The National

I find your constant defense of terrorist organizations offensive....

For the record, I have never defended a single terrorist act by any one or any organization. I find such smear allegations about me repugnant.

As a rich girl instead of living the life of luxury and contributing to mindless consumption of material objects she actually goes to a foreign country, a war torn area in fact and tries to help the less fortunate. Inexplicably this cro magnon believes that she is "vile" and selfish for doing so.
Please do not name call. Its against the rules. I gave you a thumbs up for the rest of your post which shows critical thought and proves TS's post defies common sense.
 

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The ISM version of that incident and other false allegations:


ISM's version.

No propaganda here!

Is it true that ISM volunteers were photographed holding guns and posing with members of armed resistance groups?

No. At ISM’s training in Palestine, as a condition for joining ISM in Palestine, all activists are required to commit to supporting only non-violent resistance. At the training, all activists are also instructed never to touch any weapon, or even anything that resembles a weapon.

In September 2006, photos were posted on the internet showing five foreigners posing with members of the Palestinian police in Jericho while holding their weapons, along with the claim that four of the foreigners were volunteers with the ISM. The article accompanying the photos also claimed that the fifth, unnamed foreigner (whose name we have since learned is Paul Cinato) with the obscured face in the photos went undercover in order to try and sabotage those, such as the ISM, who support Palestinian non-violent resistance.

At the time the photographs were taken, these individuals had not yet become ISM volunteers. They went to Jericho of their own volition without coordinating or discussing their plans with the International Solidarity Movement. They had not attended ISM’s mandatory intensive non-violence training and were new to the country. The fifth foreigner encouraged them to join him in the photographs and have their pictures taken holding guns. These individuals regrettably followed his lead.

Later became ISM Members?!

BUSTED! That's right... they got busted. They were infiltrated by a group to expose what ISM really is and the plant was successful. They were exposed as the hate filled violent group they are and the same group Rachel Corrie was a member of.
 

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Where was the spotter? I find it hard to believe the IDF doesn't use spotters to guide the dozer operator when protesters are causing issues.
 

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As a rich girl instead of living the life of luxury and contributing to mindless consumption of material objects she actually goes to a foreign country, a war torn area in fact and tries to help the less fortunate. Inexplicably this cro magnon believes that she is "vile" and selfish for doing so.

Oh listen to the racist bigot calling someone else a cro magnon .

Also if the parents were attempt to get rich, why would they sue for $1.00?

Rachel's parents, who had sued for a symbolic one US dollar in damages, compensation has never been the issue. It has always, they say, been about justice for their daughter and the Palestinian cause she passionately defended until her last breath.

Life of crushed US activist Rachel Corrie not worth $1: Israeli court - The National

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Sure they wanted only a $1.If Israel awarded them a dollar they would be admitting guilt and apparently her parents need that to assuage their own guilt.

Now her parents have sunk over $200K into it for nothing which was what their daughter died for.

Look at all that HATE in her eyes. So far from a "PEACE" activist.

 

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Also if the parents were attempt to get rich, why would they sue for $1.00?
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Yeah and suing Caterpillar was making what kind of statement? Just another frivolous lawsuit and trying to make some extra cash.

I find taxslave's claim that Rachel Corrie killed herself for money both offensive and ridiculous.

This idiotic statement just shows how desperate you are. TS did not say this at all. However these blatant and bold faced lies are part of the modus operandi of people like you EAO.

The facts do not support your argument so you feel lies must be used in replace of truth.

Your false accusation of TS's post was a complete lie.