9-11-ten yrs Later

Ocean Breeze

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How in heck is one to know what Jesus would do??

( but it is probably safe to assume he would not lie or slaughter his way around several countries seeking revenge and control of said regions. )
 

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How in heck is one to know what Jesus would do??

( but it is probably safe to assume he would not lie or slaughter his way around several countries seeking revenge and control of said regions. )

Tell me then if the money changers had not left the Temple, what do you think he would have done?
 

Ocean Breeze

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Nope - But Eddie did. He did bear a resemblance to Eddie from the Munsters though, didn’t he?

so Ed has left the forum involuntarily??

he sure do have issues...

Tell me then if the money changers had not left the Temple, what do you think he would have done?

I have no idea. It is hard enough running "what if " scenarios in todays world........without trying to mind read someone from history. One might as well ask: Would Henry the V111 gone on marrying and accumulate even more wives.. It is nothing but a guessing game.
 

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so Ed has left the forum involuntarily??

he sure do have issues...



I have no idea. It is hard enough running "what if " scenarios in todays world........without trying to mind read someone from history. One might as well ask: Would Henry the V111 gone on marrying and accumulate even more wives.. It is nothing but a guessing game.

Well Jesus would do as all sons do from time to time. Dad I need some help – Dad AKA God would then cleanse the place.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Well Jesus would do as all sons do from time to time. Dad I need some help – Dad AKA God would then cleanse the place.

With that kind of irrational , destructive "dad".........little wonder society has not evolved further than it has.

Hitler tried to cleanse Germany from a specific population. Was that acceptable to you?? Cleansing is cleansing......regardless of who the object of the cleansing is.

OT.......but a 'cleansing god" is no god of mine.
 

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With that kind of irrational , destructive "dad".........little wonder society has not evolved further than it has.

Hitler tried to cleanse Germany from a specific population. Was that acceptable to you?? Cleansing is cleansing......regardless of who the object of the cleansing is.

OT.......but a 'cleansing god" is no god of mine.

Read the Old Testament before making such an uninformed reply.
 

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With that kind of irrational , destructive "dad".........little wonder society has not evolved further than it has.

Hitler tried to cleanse Germany from a specific population. Was that acceptable to you?? Cleansing is cleansing......regardless of who the object of the cleansing is.

OT.......but a 'cleansing god" is no god of mine.

Hey! No Godwins allowed here!

Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is a humorous observation made by Mike Godwin in 1990[2] that has become an Internet adage. It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1 (100%)."[3][2] In other words, Godwin put forth the hyperbolic observation that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope—someone inevitably criticizes some point made in the discussion by comparing it to beliefs held by Hitler and the Nazis.
 

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9/11 and the global consequences | Deutsche Welle

misc items relating to the event.

This article below entitled Who is Osama bin Laden? was drafted on September 11, 2001. It was first published on the Global Research website on the evening of September 12, 2001.

Since 2001, it has appeared on numerous websites. The original September 12, 2001 posting is one of the most widely read articles on the internet, pertaining to Osama bin laden and Al Qaeda.

From the outset, the objective was to use 9/11 as a pretext for launching the first phase of the Middle East War, which consisted in the bombing and occupation of Afghanistan.

Within hours of the attacks, Osama bin Laden was identified as the architect of 9/11. On the following day, the "war on terrorism" had been launched. The media disinformation campaign went into full gear.

Afghanistan was identified as a "state sponsor of terror". The 9/11 attacks were categorized as an act of war, an attack on America by a foreign power.

The right to self-defense was put forth. On September 12, less than 24 hours after the attacks, NATO invoked for the first time in its history "Article 5 of the Washington Treaty - its collective defence clause" declaring the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center (WTC) and the Pentagon "to be an attack against all NATO members."

What happened subsequently, with the invasions of Afghanistan (October 2001) and Iraq (March 2003) is already part of history. In the wake of the NATO sponsored "Liberation" of Libya (August 20011), Syria and Iran constitute the next phase of the US-NATO military roadmap.

9/11 remains the pretext and justification for waging a war without borders. In a bitter irony, the global war on terrorism (GWOT) is waged not against the terrorists but with "with the terrorists" (WTT), with the full support, as in Libya, of Al Qaeda affiliated paramilitary brigades under US-NATO supervision.



Ten Years Later: Who Is Osama bin Laden?






People who question the "official story" are not conspiracy theorists. They are fact finders and simply questioners of what is a very simplistic explanation for a major event that allowed politicians to start the protracted wars in the ME.....

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Okay, then, who really was behind the attacks on 9/11?

9/11 truthers make the mistake of starting their discussions with conclusions...I am not doing that. All I am saying is that there are a lot of questions about what happened that day that are not answered by the official conclusion or explanation. I would like some answers that add up. I did the math myself and I have my own "theories", but I am a journalist, and I deal in the facts, not the fables.

The official story, as fed to the American public is filled with unsupported and implausible explanations designed to convince a gullible public that they should ask no questions and trust their leaders to take revenge on those who hated us for our freedom. Volumes can be, and have been written about so many of them. For the most part, you have not read any of them.

In this article, I've posed many questions and have provided links to their answers - so that you will more clearly understand that there is SO much we have not been told about the attacks that took place a decade ago. But, those facts are the tip of a very well hidden iceberg, because there are so many questions that still remain unanswered.

So, I will end this article with a sampling of the questions that must be answered, or in the very least, investigated by impartial truth seekers.. They must NOT be ignored, or accepted simply because they were offered to a frightened nation by an administration defined by its lies. They are legitimate questions, based on legitimate suspicions. They are not, for a single moment, conspiracy theories"

  1. Why did the news agencies report that WTC 7 collapsed almost 1/2 hour before it did, even though it was not hit by a plane, only had a few floors on fire, and gave no indication that it was in any serious danger?
  2. Why do we still believe the tale of the 19 hijackers when so many of the accused hijackers showed up ALIVE within days? And why do we sill believe the fable of the 19 hijackers when the FBI admitted that they are not sure about either the identity of the hijackers or if there were any hijackers at all?
  3. Why was WTC 7 rebuilt, reopened and reoccupied with no press attention? Wouldn't this be an important victory in American resolve and perseverance?
  4. Why were the NORAD rules changed for the first time several weeks prior to 9/11, taking responsibility/authority for shooting down hijacked lanes away from NORAD military command for the first time in its history, and given to a civilian, Donald Rumsfeld, and then returned to NORAD the day after 9/11?
  5. Why would hijackers planning on attacking NY and Washington DC drive from Florida, pass both DC and NY, and drive all the way to Maine and hinge this huge operation on a connecting flight from Maine to Boston, where we are told they hijacked their plane? Why wouldn't they fly out of any of the airports that are visible from their targets, like Newark, La Guardia or JFK...or even some of the smaller local airports that would have given them a clear easy path to their target and reduce the amount of time that our air defense systems would have to stop them?
  6. Who placed all of those put options on the airlines just prior to the event, as if they knew that the stock prices on those specific airlines would lose a huge amount of value?
  7. Why did George W. Bush's Secret Service detail not rush the president to safety when it was evident that the nation was under attack? If the nation was under attack, and they did not know the scope of the attack, and the president's location was known, how did they not worry about being attacked in Florida?. Why did they act as if they knew that there was no threat? And why, when our nation was under attack, did the president not rush into action? If you say he was concerned about upsetting the children, you are the ultimate apologist. He could have told them that his mommy was on the phone and he had to see what she wanted. Our county was supposedly being attacked and he/they waited 20 minutes before they moved. This is the smoking gun of smoking guns.
  8. Why did the FBI never list Osama bin Laden as being wanted for 9/11? Actually, we know this one...because they admitted that they had no evidence linking him to the event.
  9. Why was their molten metal flowing under the wreckage of the WTC for months? No jet fuel can melt metal, and nothing explainable could melt that much metal and keep it hot enough to remain molten for a month.
  10. How did a passport of one of the so called hijackers make it through the huge fireball and end up on the street?
  11. Why have photos from the 80+ cameras confiscated at the Pentagon never been released?
  12. Why did the airplane that supposedly crashed at Shanksville vaporize so that nothing remained, not bodies, not luggage, not metal, - nothing - for the first time in aviation history? However, we are told that even though the plane vaporized at Shanksville, a hand-written note from a hijacker was found.

Of course, there are so many more. We deserve the answers. We deserve the right to ask these questions in public forums like the corporate media....who will not touch them with the proverbial ten foot pole. We have gate keepers on the Internet who actively ridicule and dismiss anyone who dares to raise these questions. Will you be one of them? Or, after really thinking about them, will you hope that one day, when we know what went on before, during and after the attacks on 9/11, - we can all say: "I did not know this, but I'm now absolutely convinced that it is true."

Think about it...it's really time to think about it. ......as in THINK ...

You Only Believe the Official 9/11 Story Because You Don't Know the Official 9/11 Story
 

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This article below entitled Who is Osama bin Laden? was drafted on September 11, 2001. It was first published on the Global Research website on the evening of September 12, 2001.



As I said, and backed up, in a post below, anyone that reads Global Research for anything more that a good laugh is a drooling moron, or a psychotic.
 

Ocean Breeze

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As I said, and backed up, in a post below, anyone that reads Global Research for anything more that a good laugh is a drooling moron, or a psychotic.

and that of course is YOUR opinion. There are plenty of those (opinions ) floating around with as little substance as the above.



What do YOU recommend as valid, sustantiated reading material that covers these issues OBJECTIVELY, COMPLETELY , and FACTUALLY???

thx.
 

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There are plenty of those (opinions ) floating around with as little substance as the above.
As in your post right?

What do YOU recommend as valid, sustantiated reading material that covers these issues OBJECTIVELY, COMPLETELY , and FACTUALLY???
Do you really want to know?

Try Popular Mechanics.

Automotive Care, Home Improvement, Tools, DIY Tips - Popular Mechanics

Breezy is a five alarm truther eh? We haven't had a Mega Spam Truther in some time now.
True...

I don't mind the truther spam, but the anti American spam is over the top.

George Bush's diary?

"Dear diary, today somebody said I was a moron. It really hurt and Cheney had to give me a hug. It was nice, even though he's creepy."