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Rudi Dekkers, the owner of Huffman Aviation, the flight school where alleged 9/11 hijackers Mohamed Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi trained at, dropped some bombshell revelations on the September 11, 2011 episode of Erskine Overnight, in speaking about his new book, Guilty by Association.
He said he never saw Atta and al-Shehhi ever pray when they were at his flight school, and that the voice purported to be Atta’s from the alleged cockpit voice recorder didn’t sound at all like Atta’s to him.
He also said that Atta was a mediocre student and was warned six weeks into his training that he would be kicked out unless he shaped up. Ultimately, upon graduation, Atta and al-Shehhi were only qualified to fly a small plane with a few seats, and not a Boeing 767 jumbo jet, as he and al-Shehhi are alleged to have flown so skillfully into the World Trade towers.


So guys skilled to fly 2 seat plane's huh.
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My oldest had his heart set on being a fighter pilot. So he joined the Royal Canadian Air Cadets.

He's logged certified flight sim hours on C 130's, as a part of his pilot training.

He did all his practice on a flight sim in his bedroom.
 
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Angstrom said:
Rudi Dekkers, the owner of Huffman Aviation, the flight school where alleged 9/11 hijackers Mohamed Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi trained at, dropped some bombshell revelations on the September 11, 2011 episode of Erskine Overnight, in speaking about his new book, Guilty by Association.
He said he never saw Atta and al-Shehhi ever pray when they were at his flight school, and that the voice purported to be Atta’s from the alleged cockpit voice recorder didn’t sound at all like Atta’s to him.
He also said that Atta was a mediocre student and was warned six weeks into his training that he would be kicked out unless he shaped up. Ultimately, upon graduation, Atta and al-Shehhi were only qualified to fly a small plane with a few seats, and not a Boeing 767 jumbo jet, as he and al-Shehhi are alleged to have flown so skillfully into the World Trade towers.


So guys skilled to fly 2 seat plane's huh.
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How many hijackers on each plane?
 
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CDNBear said:
My oldest had his heart set on being a fighter pilot. So he joined the Royal Canadian Air Cadets.

He's logged certified flight sim hours on C 130's, as a part of his pilot training.

He did all his practice on a flight sim in his bedroom.
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Not sure if you are on ignore his ignore list - I can post and he does not see it. Where do you think his head is at. Not not in the sand. And you know the answer so no reply is the best bet.
 
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Not sure if you are on ignore his ignore list - I can post and he does not see it. Where do you think his head is at. Not not in the sand. And you know the answer so no reply is the best bet.
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He keeps saying he's here for discussion.

I think, like many of the usual suspects, his idea of what a discussion is, where he preaches and people are supposed to pat him on the head.
 
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Angstrom said:
Here is something from that Toronto hearing they had resently.
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Question 1,

How should Atta and company know where these gaps are?

They did?

There are gaps all over the area that planes just dissappear in?

What about the pilots that had the hijacked plains in their sight at times?

Question 2,

How did they know to the minute when they reached a gap?

They didn't, 93 turned their transponder off in the middle of a radar zone, according to your own video.

Those gaps are not dead zones, they're areas when there is no 'overlap'.

There was oinly one flight that was 'invisible' for half an hour. Do you know which one it was?

Question 3,

Why didn't the Commision even mention this?

Because it's idiotic.

Question 4,

How did they coordinate so closely without radio's?

Ever hear of a watch?

And the excuse of 10 to 15 minute delays posing a problem, is ridiculous.

On a clear day, delays would be unexpected. And lets not forget the FACT, that box cutters were found hidden on other aircraft.

Which means other terrorists failed to get'er done.
 
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I see one major ommission in Flight 93's case where the "gap" begins at Cleveland - a hub LORAN (LOng RANge radar) and HATC (High altitude Air Traffic Control) station
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Me I know little but the debris field is somewhat weird is it not? Just did a little reading and raises some questions - No I am not a truther.
 
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lone wolf said:
I see one major ommission in Flight 93's case where the "gap" begins at Cleveland - a hub LORAN (LOng RANge radar) and HATC (High altitude Air Traffic Control) station
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Can you expand on that for me. ie; how does that play in?

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Me I know little but the debris field is somewhat weird is it not? Just did a little reading and raises some questions - No I am not a truther.
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It's not weird at all...

N385EM Citation 650 fatal nose dive from FLL330...photo... : Aviation News

Thisis what happens to a plane the crashes nose first, at high speeds.
 
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Cleveland is the busiest air traffic control centre in the US because it's on the heaviest-travelled air routes. It sees everything in the air over most of the Northeast and in Southern Ontario.
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Ahhh, so in other words, Angst's video lied by omitting that range.

You'll have to bear with me here, I just sucked back a handful of night time cold and flue meds, and a neocitron.
 
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Goober said:
Me I know little but the debris field is somewhat weird is it not? Just did a little reading and raises some questions - No I am not a truther.
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I still have many questions about Flight 93. I'll probably take them to the grave with me. One of them concerns continuous cell phone communications (as the first official story spoke of) with towers - albethey line-of-sight - seven miles down at 35 thousand feet and with 2001 technology.

The debris fields? I'd like to have been there to see them for myself.

Lack of mega-wreckage onsite seems odd.

That an airplane was still in flight a half hour after everything in the sky was ordered to ground should have made 93 easy to track - especially since it passed through the vicinities of Akron, Cleveland, Toledo and Columbus. All four fields are more than capable of landing a 767. Maybe I don't like the idea of a shut-out, but something in this old airman's heart still thinks it was brought down. If that's the case, I wish the man who launched self-forgiveness.

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Ahhh, so in other words, Angst's video lied by omitting that range.

You'll have to bear with me here, I just sucked back a handful of night time cold and flue meds, and a neocitron.
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Omitting that range doesn't exactly speak truth to me. When you add radar at Wright Patterson - one hell of a secure base - near Dayton, it seems strange that somebody wouldn't be on the ball
 
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lone wolf said:
I still have many questions about Flight 93. I'll probably take them to the grave with me. One of them concerns continuous cell phone communications (as the first official story spoke of) with towers - albethey line-of-sight - seven miles down at 35 thousand feet and with 2001 technology.
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12,000' and no terrain loss.

The debris fields? I'd like to have been there to see them for myself.

Lack of mega-wreckage onsite seems odd.
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After I viewed other high velocity nose in crashes. It isn't an abnormal scene.

That an airplane was still in flight a half hour after everything in the sky was ordered to ground should have made 93 easy to track - especially since it passed through the vicinities of Akron, Cleveland, Toledo and Columbus.
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They were tracking it, two jets were in route, they had eyes on it, by other pilots.

The two fighters were still way out when it hit the ground. The civilian Lear that witnessed the mushroom cloud had clear sight of the sky, and reported no other aircraft. Did a fly by within seconds of the crash and reported it was down.

Maybe I don't like the idea of a shut-out, but something in this old airman's heart still thinks it was brought down.
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I thought it was at first too. I don't anymore.
 
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Angstrom said:
Inside 9/11 - Who controlled the planes? - YouTube

Here is something from that Toronto hearing they had resently.
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Yes... good questions.

"Why took they such uneccessary risks?" - Why took they?

"Why take time consuming and strange routes when they could be captured by fighter jets?" - Captured by fighter jets? Like in mid air?...

Seriously?

"All right buddy... this is the USAF... Pull it over and put the keys on the hood. Pilot... let me see your hands"

Man oh man.
 
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Hey... can the US Government control box cutters remotely and cut the pilots throats and remotely remove them from their seats? If so... I'm sold and call me a Truther.
 
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