9-11-ten yrs Later
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It's not about Terrorism: It's About Sharia Law
"The most important lesson for us this tenth year after September 11 must be that there is no possible way to defeat an enemy whose very name it is forbidden to speak. The name of that enemy is not “all Muslims”: rather, the enemy is those who fight jihad in the name of shariah Islam. We must understand that the violent terrorism that is commanded by Islamic law has a purpose: to impose such a psychological burden of terror on non-Muslim populations that they will lose faith and hope in their own leaders and religions and societal principles and simply find it easier to capitulate to shariah. It is at that point, when the Dar al-Islam (Islamic world) subjugates the Dar al-Harb (non-Muslim world), that jihad and terrorism will end—because the objective, to impose Islamic law globally—will have been achieved. Jihadis use terror because it works, not because all they want is piles of dead bodies. What jihadis want is a world submissive to Islam and Islamic law. If they can get that through a “civilization-jihad process,” via stealth, guile, and infiltration, they will. The violence is intended to set the stage, soften up the target, and of course, for the final push, to complete the defeat of an America so weakened from within that one last terrorist onslaught will collapse it completely. "
It's not about Terrorism: It's About Sharia Law
"The most important lesson for us this tenth year after September 11 must be that there is no possible way to defeat an enemy whose very name it is forbidden to speak. The name of that enemy is not “all Muslims”: rather, the enemy is those who fight jihad in the name of shariah Islam. We must understand that the violent terrorism that is commanded by Islamic law has a purpose: to impose such a psychological burden of terror on non-Muslim populations that they will lose faith and hope in their own leaders and religions and societal principles and simply find it easier to capitulate to shariah. It is at that point, when the Dar al-Islam (Islamic world) subjugates the Dar al-Harb (non-Muslim world), that jihad and terrorism will end—because the objective, to impose Islamic law globally—will have been achieved. Jihadis use terror because it works, not because all they want is piles of dead bodies. What jihadis want is a world submissive to Islam and Islamic law. If they can get that through a “civilization-jihad process,” via stealth, guile, and infiltration, they will. The violence is intended to set the stage, soften up the target, and of course, for the final push, to complete the defeat of an America so weakened from within that one last terrorist onslaught will collapse it completely. "
America: What Happened?? ( without blaming 9-11)
America: A Sunset Empire
The rise and decline of the American Empire
America: A Sunset Empire
........How did you allow yourself to deteriorate so much and surrender the very principles on which you were built???
America: A Sunset Empire
The rise and decline of the American Empire
America: A Sunset Empire
........How did you allow yourself to deteriorate so much and surrender the very principles on which you were built???
And the US can still get it back - China will be Grey before they are rich - Now India - Brazil are a different matter. The US economy and the education system are going thru a sea change - The shortage of people with skill sets are still high in the US - While those with a basic education 12th grade etc are unskilled. Wait 10 or 20 years.
Indeed. All the sensational "remembering" is not making it any better. Don't think we can count on the media to ask the difficult questions........as it reports selectively chosen information. IF any further truths are to ever emerge , it will be because the people themselves gain the courage to ask the questions. As it stands, most are too afraid of being branded "unpatriotic" , "unamerican" ( as if anyone knows what "american " is anymore) so they remain quiet .....
Or some major leaks end up with Wikileaks and then verified and made public. Why do you think the USG hates Assange so much?? His information is a threat to them. ( at least percieved as such). Yet.....he is doing what ALL solid democracies are supposed to do. Provide transparency and information to ;keep the population informed.
Speaking of Assange........rather surprised he has not been politically assassinated yet. Isn't that how the US deals with its enemies now?? But he might have them over the proverbial barrel......as he indicated : If anything should mysteriously happen to him the info that would be immediately released would be devestating. No need to call that "extortion" It is just good business. Maybe if Dr. Kelly had something like that in place , he would still be alive.
The number of nasty "deaths" and actions that have been taken since that day .....is staggaring , while painting a sordid picture of what Imperialism has become.
All the "remembering" is because 3,000 innocent people died in an attack perpetrated by a bunch of lunatic followers of a medieval death cult called Islam.
NO society can carry on its foreign affairs completely in the open. Only a complete drooling moron would think that is the way things are supposed to be.
The United States is the first NON Imperial superpower.
You do know what "imperial" means, don't you? Actually I don't think you do......
I have no patience with apologists for the enemies of western civilization.......
To defend Islamists and murderers that would see you enslaved in a millisecond requires a level of stupidity beyond my comprehension.
I have no patience for it.....especially today.
While we are remembering...........WHO is remembering the ONE AND ONE HALF MILLION IRAQIS that the US slaughtered........with intent , motivation (not exactly one........as it kept changing from reason to reason) and obvious means?? And how about the innocent AFghans ( so euphamistically called " casualties of war" ) Pakistan......(oh those happy drones doing their deadly bit ....... because US lives are so much more important than anyone else on the planet )
IF you think that anyone defends terrorism OF ANY KIND.....be it verbal (on here ) or something more dastardly and deadly .....then it is you that has things very confused.
IF we don't start looking at all sides in order to get a clearer picture of that event and consider all contributing factors......we might as well bury our heads like the ostriches that some prefer to be.
Many cannot see. And that is understandable. But many more WILL NOT see...and that is unpardonable. Two wrongs do not make a right.
IF you think that anyone defends terrorism OF ANY KIND.....be it verbal (on here ) or something more dastardly and deadly .....then it is you that has things very confused.
IF we don't start looking at all sides in order to get a clearer picture of that event and consider all contributing factors......we might as well bury our heads like the ostriches that some prefer to be.
Many cannot see. And that is understandable. But many more WILL NOT see...and that is unpardonable. Two wrongs do not make a right.
I support you completely, I agree with you completely, all of this blatting about conspiracies etc., is truly
overlooking the 3000 people who died, at the hands of these lunatics.
lets remember them, that is important right now.
It's just like the fruit loops that deny the holocaust, it's a desecration of the survivors, who suffered horribly while all the time seeing all the details of what actually happened. Not only are they ignorant but they are cruel. 8O
its just very frustrating to read that crap. the religious nuts are bad enough, but now we have these
people who live in an imaginary world, i'm sure they trust no one, ever.
let 'us' realistic ones stick together and get thru this very emotional and memorable 10 year anniversay,
because thousands of people who had family and others connected to them need this anniversary to be
respected and treated in a classy manner.
We have absolutely no idea how they must feel, the feelings they must have, but this is necessary, it is
proper and has be done.
I will not turn away, I will get thru this anniversary right along with them, and
feel their pain.
I am watching 'flight 93' and also 'the heros on the 88th floor',
a real story by the real people who managed to escape from the 88th floor and 'higher', it is quite
amazing.
Ya, the imaginary world that people like you, talloola, and colpy live in. The imaginary world where the death of 3000 people by a small group of nutcases, thugs, criminals, justify's the destruction of 2 countries and the deaths of 10's of thousands of innocent people just for your and the wests zealous revenge.
This is not support for the criminals, this is pointing out the pot calling the kettle black.
This is not support for the criminals, this is pointing out the pot calling the kettle black.
the 3000 people who died need to be remembered on this anniversary, and their relatives and friends,
irrespective of anything else, or what anyone believes or thinks happened, at this time, those
opinions don't really matter, the respect for the dead, and how they were killed, and the fact that
they haven't lived this last ten years like we all have, is a shame, they were all innocent,
didn't deserve to die.
If you want to give respect to any others who have died anywhere in the world on an anniversary of their
deaths, feel free to do so, but not tomorrow.
yes, all lives lost is tragic, in afghanistan and iraq and kuwait and in many other places, I agree.
Glad you mentioned Kuwait, that is an important consideration before anyone gets too high and mighty about Iraq.
The AMERICANS KILLED NO WHERE NEAR ONE AND A HALF MILLION IRAQIS. They MIGHT have killed one tenth that figure. Maybe, but I doubt it.
No one sane has ever CLAIMED they killed 1,500,0000 Iraqis.
War sucks, people die. But without the willingness on the part of our civilization to go to war with those that attack us, we would all be goose-stepping and yelling Heil Hitler at each other. Or we'd all be slave labour on collective farms.....or actually, we'd still be serfs working the land for the lord of the manor.
How does one get to adulthood and understand so very little about human nature and human history???????
When you oppose retaliation, when you pretend terrorists were not responsible for 9-11 in the face of all evidence, when you consistently condemn our friends and allies with nonsense, stupidity and maliciousness, when you do everything ion your power to undermine the effort to fight terror, THEN YOU ARE SUPPORTING TERRORISTS.
Deal with it.
First of all, I have NEVER said 9-11 justified Iraq. Saddam being an idiot and trying to convince the world (meaning Iran) that he held WMD..........while ignoring the cease-fire signed in 1991.....justified Iraq.
The Taliban could have turned over bin Laden. They did not. THEY are responsible for the subsequent war. What the Hell did they expect????
I am sickened today by the absolute head-stuck-up- your own arse stupidity inherent in our society, as revealed by those that would NOT retaliate for an attack that killed more people than Pearl Harbour........
And tell me, please, carefully explain to me, how you could POSSIBLY destroy the Taliban's Afghanistan???????????? The fricken place was ALREADY hell on earth.
If your a smart as you think answer these questions
1. its to big to be quite about with everyone knowing about it so therefore it was never a damn set up
2. when fire start its melts teh steel and it heats the steal than makes it bend lossing its consutrtion grip with the budling.
3. no if it was bigger ands tronger than a plane it would of made a much more bigger in pact more lifes would of be lost more budlings would of be lost more people would of been killed more firefighters more dust etc...
try something new
Well, since that is the case, why all the whining and moaning about the 3000? As I understand it, that was a declaration of war. War sucks, people die.
riiiiiight, because the answer to all the worlds problems is...... KILL THE SON'S-A BITCHES!
How does one get to adulthood without learning from human history and learning to change human nature?
Actually, you and you're buddies that continue to support murder and mayhem are the ones supporting terrorists.
Deal with it.
So Iran equals the world does it.
and, of course, only Taliban supporters and members were killed in Afghanistan, right?
Some of us have matured beyond the eye for an eye mentality of the morally bankrupt.
Of course, what was I thinking? The place wasn't worth living in anyways, so anything we did there HAD to be an improvement the minute boots were on the ground.