9-11-ten yrs Later

Kakato

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If your a smart as you think answer these questions

1. its to big to be quite about with everyone knowing about it so therefore it was never a damn set up
2. when fire start its melts teh steel and it heats the steal than makes it bend lossing its consutrtion grip with the budling.
3. no if it was bigger ands tronger than a plane it would of made a much more bigger in pact more lifes would of be lost more budlings would of be lost more people would of been killed more firefighters more dust etc...

try something new
They just dont give up,any blaster will tell you that wasnt caused by anything they use.It would take months to set up a controlled demo on a building that size.
Jet fuel really isnt that flammable either untill compressed or heated depending on if it's jetA or jetB.Jet A has the additives and jetB is allmost pure naptha and good for cooking hot dogs on the exhaust of our helicopters.
 

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They just dont give up,any blaster will tell you that wasnt caused by anything they use.It would take months to set up a controlled demo on a building that size.
Jet fuel really isnt that flammable either untill compressed or heated depending on if it's jetA or jetB.Jet A has the additives and jetB is allmost pure naptha and good for cooking hot dogs on the exhaust of our helicopters.
...but unconfined concentrations of vapour goes BOOM
 

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...but unconfined vapour goes BOOM
Of course,I had a bet with one of our chopper pilots that I could drop a lit cig in a pail of jet fuel and it wouldnt ignite.Now if it was warmer I would'nt try it but it was about 10 above celsius.I won the bet.
after unloading close to 2000 forty five gallon drums and 98 hercules transports @ 22,000 liters a pop this spring I dont ever want to see another drum of jet fuel allthough I just love the smell of burning jetA in the morning!
 

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THE 9/11 "BIG LIE". WHEN FICTION BECOMES FACT

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THE 9/11 "BIG LIE". WHEN FICTION BECOMES FACT


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THE 9/11 "BIG LIE". WHEN FICTION BECOMES FACT

Articles and documentation on 9/11 from Global Research


THE 9/11 "BIG LIE". WHEN FICTION BECOMES FACT


A summary of thought provoking articles. (mainly for those that are open to the real possibilities that the "official" story is just that: a story designed to achieve exactly what it achieved. ) Believers of the official STORY......need not bother . their minds are made up so why confuse them with relavent questions about the official STORY.






So where are the thousands of people needed to wire buildings with high explosives, and all the rest that would be needed.??????????
 

Kakato

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So where are the thousands of people needed to wire buildings with high explosives, and all the rest that would be needed.??????????

Dont forget the plasma torches,explosives are pretty well useless unless they have a weak point to exploit.A good blaster allways uses that to his advantage when he sets the charges.Priority one is making sure the explosive force does exploit the sweet spot.
I have many years on the blasting crew.Allthough i only blow up mountains I know that wiring a building like that for a demo would take months if not years.
 

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Dont forget the plasma torches,explosives are pretty well useless unless they have a weak point to exploit.A good blaster allways uses that to his advantage when he sets the charges.Priority one is making sure the explosive force does exploit the sweet spot.
I have many years on the blasting crew.Allthough i only blow up mountains I know that wiring a building like that for a demo would take months if not years.

Then Clinton would have to have been involved - along with the contractors - plant it as you build - No one will notice all that extra stuff. No way.
 

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As I recall on September 11th 2001 we weren't at war with anyone. I'm pretty sure the people in those buildings, on those airplanes or on the ground weren't calling for the deaths of anyone.

Al qaeda was active prior to 911. The Taliban could have avoided the war in Afghanistan by not offering comfort to a mass murderer and making ludicrous statements like "He rode off on a white horse."

But then the taliban was more interested in executing and oppressing women within its borders and exacting their rather warped ideology upon the meek.

Criminals rob banks and yes sometimes kill, these guys are a cut above that and far more dangerous.

  • 1993 (Feb.): Bombing of World Trade Center (WTC); 6 killed.
  • 1993 (Oct.): Killing of U.S. soldiers in Somalia.
  • 1996 (June): Truck bombing at Khobar Towers barracks in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, killed 19 Americans.
  • 1998 (Aug.): Bombing of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania; 224 killed, including 12 Americans.
  • 1999 (Dec.): Plot to bomb millennium celebrations in Seattle foiled when customs agents arrest an Algerian smuggling explosives into the U.S.
  • 2000 (Oct.): Bombing of the USS Cole in port in Yemen; 17 U.S. sailors killed.
  • 2001 (Sept.): Destruction of WTC; attack on Pentagon. Total dead 2,992.
  • 2001 (Dec.): Man tried to denote shoe bomb on flight from Paris to Miami.
  • 2002 (April): Explosion at historic synagogue in Tunisia left 21 dead, including 11 German tourists.
  • 2002 (May): Car exploded outside hotel in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 14, including 11 French citizens.
  • 2002 (June): Bomb exploded outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12.
  • 2002 (Oct.): Boat crashed into oil tanker off Yemen coast, killing 1.
  • 2002 (Oct.): Nightclub bombings in Bali, Indonesia, killed 202, mostly Australian citizens.
  • 2002 (Nov.): Suicide attack on a hotel in Mombasa, Kenya, killed 16.
  • 2003 (May): Suicide bombers killed 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
  • 2003 (May): 4 bombs killed 33 people targeting Jewish, Spanish, and Belgian sites in Casablanca, Morocco.
  • 2003 (Aug.): Suicide car-bomb killed 12, injured 150 at Marriott Hotel in Jakarta, Indonesia.
  • 2003 (Nov.): Explosions rocked a Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, housing compound, killing 17.
  • 2003 (Nov.): Suicide car-bombers simultaneously attacked 2 synagogues in Istanbul, Turkey, killing 25 and injuring hundreds.
  • 2003 (Nov.): Truck bombs detonated at London bank and British consulate in Istanbul, Turkey, killing 26.
  • 2004 (March): 10 bombs on 4 trains exploded almost simultaneously during the morning rush hour in Madrid, Spain, killing 191 and injuring more than 1,500.
  • 2004 (May): Terrorists attacked Saudi oil company offices in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, killing 22.
  • 2004 (June): Terrorists kidnapped and executed American Paul Johnson, Jr., in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
  • 2004 (Sept.): Car bomb outside the Australian embassy in Jakarta, Indonesia, killed 9.
  • 2004 (Dec.): Terrorists entered the U.S. Consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, killing 9 (including 4 attackers).
  • 2005 (July): Bombs exploded on 3 trains and a bus in London, England, killing 52.
  • 2005 (Oct.): 22 killed by 3 suicide bombs in Bali, Indonesia.
  • 2005 (Nov.): 57 killed at 3 American hotels in Amman, Jordan.
  • 2006 (Jan.): Two suicide bombers carrying police badges blow themselves up near a celebration at the Police Academy in Baghdad, killing nearly 20 police officers. Al-Qaeda in Iraq takes responsibility.
  • 2006 (Aug.): Police arrest 24 British-born Muslims, most of whom have ties to Pakistan, who had allegedly plotted to blow up as many as 10 planes using liquid explosives. Officials say details of the plan were similar to other schemes devised by al-Qaeda.
  • 2007 (April): Suicide bombers attack a government building in Algeria's capital, Algiers, killing 35 and wounding hundreds more. Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb claims responsibility.
  • 2007 (April): Eight people, including two Iraqi legislators, die when a suicide bomber strikes inside the Parliament building in Baghdad. An organization that includes al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia claims responsibility. In another attack, the Sarafiya Bridge that spans the Tigris River is destroyed.
  • 2007 (June): British police find car bombs in two vehicles in London. The attackers reportedly tried to detonate the bombs using cell phones but failed. Government officials say al-Qaeda is linked to the attempted attack. The following day, an SUV carrying bombs bursts into flames after it slams into an entrance to Glasgow Airport. Officials say the attacks are connected.
  • 2007 (Dec.): As many as 60 people are killed in two suicide attacks near United Nations offices and government buildings in Algiers, Algeria. The bombings occur within minutes of each other. Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, formerly called the Salafist Group for Preaching, claims responsibility. It's the worst attack in the Algeria in more than 10 years.
  • 2007 (Dec.): Benazir Bhutto, former Pakistani prime minister, is assassinated in a suicide attack on Dec. 27, 2007, at a campaign rally in Rawalpindi, Pakistan. President Pervez Musharraf blames al Qaeda for the attack, which kills 23 other people. Baitullah Mehsud, a Taliban leader with close ties to al Qaeda is later cited as the assassin.
  • 2008 (Jan.): In the worst attack in Iraq in months, a suicide bomber kills 30 people at a home where mourners were paying their respects to the family of a man killed in a car bomb. The Iraqi military blames the attack on al-Qaeda in Iraq.
  • 2008 (Feb.): Nearly 100 people die when two women suicide bombers, who are believed to be mentally impaired, attack crowded pet markets in eastern Baghdad. The U.S. military says al-Qaeda in Iraq has been recruiting female patients at psychiatric hospitals to become suicide bombers.
  • 2008 (April): A suicide bomber attacks the funeral for two nephews of a prominent Sunni tribal leader, Sheik Kareem Kamil al-Azawi, killing 30 people in Iraq's Diyala Province.
  • 2008 (April): A suicide car bomber kills 40 people in Baquba, the capital of Diyala Province in Iraq.
  • 2008 (April): Thirty-five people die and 62 are injured when a woman detonates explosives that she was carrying under her dress in a busy shopping district in Iraq’s Diyala Province.
  • 2008 (May): At least 12 worshipers are killed and 44 more injured when a bomb explodes in the Bin Salman mosque near Sana, Yemen.
  • 2008 (May): An al-Qaeda suicide bomber detonates explosives in Hit, a city in the Anbar Province of Iraq, killing six policemen and four civilians, and injuring 12 other people.
  • 2008 (June): A car bomb explodes outside the Danish Embassy in Pakistan, killing six people and injuring dozens. Al-Qaeda claims responsibility, saying the attack was retaliation for the 2006 publication of political cartoons in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten that depicted the Islamic prophet Muhammad.
  • 2008 (June): A female suicide bomber kills 15 and wounds 40 others, including seven Iraqi policemen, near a courthouse in Baquba, Iraq.
  • 2008 (June): A suicide bomber kills at least 20 people at a meeting between sheiks and Americans in Karmah, a town west of Baghdad.
  • 2008 (Aug.): About two dozens worshippers are killed in three separate attacks as they make their way toward Karbala to celebrate the birthday of 9th-century imam Muhammad al-Mahdi. Iraqi officials blame al-Qaeda in Iraq for the attacks.
  • 2008 (Aug.): A bomb left on the street explodes and tears through a bus carrying Lebanese troops, killing 15 people, nine of them soldiers. No one claims responsibility for the attack, but in 2007, the army fought an al-Qaeda linked Islamist group in Tripoli.
  • 2008 (Aug.): At least 43 people are killed when a suicide bomber drives an explosives-laden car into a police academy in Issers, a town in northern Algeria.
  • 2008 (Aug.): Two car bombs explode at a military command and a hotel in Bouira, killing a dozen people. No group takes responsibility for either attack, Algerian officials said they suspect al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb is behind the bombings.
  • 2008 (Sept.): In its first acknowledged ground attack inside Pakistan, U.S. commandos raid a village that is home to al-Qaeda militants in the tribal region near the border with Afghanistan. The number of casualties is unclear.
  • 2008 (Sept.): A car bomb and a rocket strike the U.S. embassy in Yemen as staff arrived to work, killing 16 people, including 4 civilians. At least 25 suspected al-Qaeda militants are arrested for the attack.
  • 2008 (Nov.): at least 28 people die and over 60 more are injured when three bombs explode minutes apart in Baghdad, Iraq. Officials suspect the explosions are linked to al-Qaeda.
  • 2009 (April): on April 6 in Baghdad, a series of six attacks kills 36 people and injure more than 100 in Shiite neighborhoods; April 23: at least 80 people are killed in three separate suicide bombings in Baghdad. This is the largest single-day death toll due to attacks since February 2008. One of the bombings is reportedly set off by a female, who was standing among a group of women and children receiving food aid.
  • 2009 (Dec.): A Nigerian man on a flight from Amsterdam to Detroit attempted to ignite an explosive device hidden in his underwear. The explosive device that failed to detonate was a mixture of powder and liquid that did not alert security personnel in the airport. The alleged bomber, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, told officials later that he was directed by the terrorist group al-Qaeda. The suspect was already on the government's watch list when he attempted the bombing; his father, a respected Nigerian banker, had told the U.S. government that he was worried about his son's increased extremism.
  • 2009 (Dec.): A suicide bomber kills eight Americans civilians, seven of them CIA agents, at a base in Afghanistan. It's the deadliest attack on the agency since 9/11. The attacker is reportedly a double agent from Jordan who was acting on behalf of al-Qaeda.
  • 2010 (Oct.): Two packages are found on separate cargo planes. Each package contains a bomb consisting of 300 to 400 grams (11-14 oz) of plastic explosives and a detonating mechanism. The bombs are discovered as a result of intelligence received from Saudi Arabia's security chief. The packages, bound from Yemen to the United States, are discovered at en route stop-overs, one in England and one in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates. A week after the packages are found, al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) takes responsibility for the plot.
  • 2011 (Jan.): Two Frenchmen are killed in Niger. France highly suspects the al-Qaeda Organization in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM).
  • 2011 (April): Men claiming to be Moroccan members of AQIM appear on the internet and threaten to attack Moroccan interests. The following week a bomb killing 15 people, including 10 foreigners, explodes in Marrakesh, Morocco.

 

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Did'nt he have sex with Peters wife on family guy?
I think a cigar was involved.

Yes he did like his ciagar dipped in a certain way if I recall. Asked the question - Bill are you gettin any - Reply - Smoking it right now.
 

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its to big to be quite about with everyone knowing about it so therefore it was never a damn set up


THAT is the "genius " of it. Because it was "big" , Sensational, emotionally ripping , dramatic beyond comprehension , generally, one is less likely to question the "official" story and no it would not take many to know about it and either participate or execute it . Look at how sleek the OBL assassination was?? Wanna bet that a select group was involved , one that is so ;highly trained, and are protected by the highest of securty clearances....

It is foolish to rule out the possibility / probability . Every gov't in history is known for sacrificing its own if it meant gaining political capital and power. Without 9-11 to define his lack luster presidency........bush would have barely made it as a one term president. Heck , he was not even officially elected......... he got in via the judicial system.. That was still when the US population was smart , questioning and not controlled by fear ........

Always the question: WHO BENEFITTED THE MOST??

When it comes to sacrificing its own population............the USG (military ) has no problem in starting wars that become protracted , and slaughter many of its own.
 

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After reading this thread, I have learned that my country in an empire in decline, with deteriorated principles, which doesn't ask the proverbial tough questions about 9/11 and wants to see Julian Assange assassinated.


All of which is news to me.
 

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After reading this thread, I have learned that my country in an empire in decline, with deteriorated principles, which doesn't ask the proverbial tough questions about 9/11 and wants to see Julian Assange assassinated.


All of which is news to me.

If it's all news to you, then you must have been asleep for the last 10 years.
 

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After reading this thread, I have learned that my country in an empire in decline, with deteriorated principles, which doesn't ask the proverbial tough questions about 9/11 and wants to see Julian Assange assassinated.


All of which is news to me.
Stay tuned...
 

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If it's all news to you, then you must have been asleep for the last 10 years.

If you read really carefully in what I just posted, you'll see the satire, in this sense that I pointed out people who belief such things don't know what they're talking about.
 

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its to big to be quite about with everyone knowing about it so therefore it was never a damn set up


THAT is the "genius " of it. Because it was "big" , Sensational, emotionally ripping , dramatic beyond comprehension , generally, one is less likely to question the "official" story and no it would not take many to know about it and either participate or execute it . Look at how sleek the OBL assassination was?? Wanna bet that a select group was involved , one that is so ;highly trained, and are protected by the highest of securty clearances....

It is foolish to rule out the possibility / probability . Every gov't in history is known for sacrificing its own if it meant gaining political capital and power. Without 9-11 to define his lack luster presidency........bush would have barely made it as a one term president. Heck , he was not even officially elected......... he got in via the judicial system.. That was still when the US population was smart , questioning and not controlled by fear ........

Always the question: WHO BENEFITTED THE MOST??

When it comes to sacrificing its own population............the USG (military ) has no problem in starting wars that become protracted , and slaughter many of its own.

When the folks you so adamantly support stop targeting the innocents as a way of leveraging their cause I will will consider your input worth something. Until then, it's all apologetic crap.
 

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THE 9/11 "BIG LIE". WHEN FICTION BECOMES FACT

Articles and documentation on 9/11 from Global Research


THE 9/11 "BIG LIE". WHEN FICTION BECOMES FACT


A summary of thought provoking articles. (mainly for those that are open to the real possibilities that the "official" story is just that: a story designed to achieve exactly what it achieved. ) Believers of the official STORY......need not bother . their minds are made up so why confuse them with relavent questions about the official STORY.








I read the first article.....couldn't stomach any more.

You Only Believe the Official 9/11 Story Because You Don't Know the Official 9/11 Story

The first article is monumental in its stupidity and in its insanity. The gentleman that wrote this is either duplicitous, a complete moron, or out of his mind......or any combination of the three.

First he tells us no one that has done any research has ever been convinced of the truth of the 9-11 official explanations'

Bull****. I am.

Secondly he tells us we are not qualified to do research, or to understand any of the events of that day.......

Well, that disqualifies him, and every other Truther I ever heard.

Thirdly he denigrates the people that accept the official 0-11 story as stupid, ignorant, and unknowledgeable of history.........the academic discipline that has been my passion for 40 years.........

Fourth, he blatantly states "False flag operations have taken place for generations, in this nation and nations around the world. Many of these operations have been exposed......"

Oh yeah????? Name three. Proven, in this dimension, accepted as fact.......where a government has killed a large number of its own citizens as an excuse to attack another nation....name them, or STFU.

Then he lists twelve "facts", three of which are simply blatantly untrue on the face of it.....(numbers 2, 9, and 12), the rest of which are either just silly, or conjecture.

9-11 is fake because WTC 7 was rebuilt without fanfare???? Okay.........

The unavoidable conclusion is that this stuff is written by nuts, for nuts.

Of course, anybody that reads Global Research for anything aside from amusement value ain't all that bright.
 

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If you read really carefully in what I just posted, you'll see the satire, in this sense that I pointed out people who belief such things don't know what they're talking about.
Just a question...

Would that be similar to people that don't understand combat, that comment on it?