KKK costume at Canadian Legion Halloween party disgusts many
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yeesh, some people get offend by anything- this isn't just anything, its something that should not have happened. People in that community should know who dressed up in those costumes, and apparently a large number of them view it as distasteful. Can't really punish them anyhow so you can say yay or nay but it won't matter to anyone but you and whoever is listening to you.
Like I said, a guy wearing black face being led by a KKK member with a rope is in good taste to you.
Telling indeed.
Maybe if I dressed up in a German uniform and carried the head of a dead Canadian soldier we would see a somewhat different reaction by the judges.
Racists are everywhere - some in how they do things, and some in how they interpret them. A KKK with his buddy on a rope is scary. So are zombies to some folks.
I wonder if there would have been such an uproar if they had been dressed as an arab man towing his wife around dressed in her tent?
The problem for the Legion is they are a multicultural facility, having soldiers from
all nationalities. It was in very poor taste and although I sometimes question those
who are politically to the extreme this was way over the line and some action had
to be taken and I understand Legion headquarters is investigating. I as a Legion
member (associate member) my father was a life member, I was offended by the
ignorance of people in that setting. There is a time and place for almost anything
and this was certainly out of place and in very poor taste to the point of being very
disrespectful to the Legion itself.
all nationalities. It was in very poor taste and although I sometimes question those
who are politically to the extreme this was way over the line and some action had
to be taken and I understand Legion headquarters is investigating. I as a Legion
member (associate member) my father was a life member, I was offended by the
ignorance of people in that setting. There is a time and place for almost anything
and this was certainly out of place and in very poor taste to the point of being very
disrespectful to the Legion itself.
It tells nothing. The guy wasn't doing it to suit me, so it's really none of my business. :smile:
If you can't laugh at everything, then you can't laugh at anything..... they're jokes in bad taste, but I don't see any serious malice or promotion to cause harm to any of the groups they're portraying.
As for the guy with the sheep.... I don't see anything wrong with that either..... a few christmases ago, my brother got my cousin and inflatable bonking sheep that got a few good laughs from everybody.
People need to get a grip and understand that there's a difference between a joke (poor tasting joke mind you) and someone promoting the degrading of a particular group of people through hate and violence.
If the guy was walking around shouting "White power" and other racist comments and was all out acting like a racist bigot, then you'd have a whole other situation.
Exactly, people are getting so sensitive over little things. In most segments of our society "Newfy jokes" are acceptable, yet jokes about Blacks aren't- why so much hypocracy?
Yeah, it's not exactly hate speech. Just like the guy out west distributing religious brochures complaining about gays, there's really no reason to get upset. It's all in your own interpretation.
Hmmm...I was unaware the guys in the costumes were "complaining" about black folks. That changes things.
Well, police are investigating and the legion hall has been shut down.
Ontario Provincial Police Const. Chris Dewsbury said police received a complaint and launched an investigation. So far it seems unlikely criminal charges will be laid, but the investigation is ongoing, Dewsbury said.
The incident prompted Royal Canadian Legion officials to close the Campbellford branch indefinitely.
Bob Butt, spokesman for the legion's national office, told local radio station CJTN that the Campbellford legion will remain closed for an unknown time.
KKK costume at legion Halloween party 'poor judgment,' not criminal, police say - Brandon Sun
Ontario Provincial Police Const. Chris Dewsbury said police received a complaint and launched an investigation. So far it seems unlikely criminal charges will be laid, but the investigation is ongoing, Dewsbury said.
The incident prompted Royal Canadian Legion officials to close the Campbellford branch indefinitely.
Bob Butt, spokesman for the legion's national office, told local radio station CJTN that the Campbellford legion will remain closed for an unknown time.
KKK costume at legion Halloween party 'poor judgment,' not criminal, police say - Brandon Sun
The guy distributing brochures wasn't complaining, he was simply distributing religious brochures.
These guys were simply dressing up in costume for entertainment.
Really, there's no difference.
One is a joke in poor taste not to be taken seriously... if anything, it was a mockery of racist people and how stupid they not only look, but act.... the other is the deliberate spread and promotion of ignorance, hatred and the segregation of a particular group in our society, while at the same time trying to justify the spread of their ignorance and bigotry for the purpose to continue to do what they're doing, citing religious dogma protected by human rights.
Yet you see both being the same thing?
Of course this guy dressing up as a KKK member isn't "Hate Speech"..... his costume didn't talk, nor where there any words to read silly.
"Poor Judgement", but not Criminal "Police Say"
Just as I was saying all along.
People need to read up on their laws, lol.
Not based on the explanation the guy responsible for the leaflets gave.... he believes in what he wrote and handed out and he believes others should believe what he believes and suggested to those people to go talk to their local MP's to try and force a law that prevents homosexuals from working certain jobs based on unfounded and ignorant claims of what Homosexuality is all about, acts as though it's somehow contagious, that a Homosexual is equal to a pedophile and they shouldn't be allowed to teach children..... or was it that they shouldn't teach children that Homosexuality is "Normal" but rather either ignore they exist or teach children more ignorant propaganda and fear of those different?
It's all about intent and frame of mind at the time of action.
And how many were busted for indecent exposure? I almost **** a house when I saw what my daughter's friend was dressed like.
And this is why I didn't come back to respond to your post until now.... because your posts are obvious wastes of time and attempts to troll by purposely misinterpreting what's being said in the debate to further continue a pointless argument.
Either that or you have serious comprehension issues.
Let me spell it out for you, yet again...... There was no comparison between the lyrics of a song vs. the kkk halloween suit.... the comparison was between the people in both situations who got all riled up and made huge stinks over absolutely nothing, or completely got the wrong message being sent and ended up looking like asses.
And maybe you're a troll and maybe I'm further encouraging your trollish behavior by responding to you and your pointless little snippets..... but since I do not know for sure, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, because Maybe you're not and maybe you're being serious..... serious in a sad sort of way, but possibly being serious none the less.
Great counter argument though..... :roll: you can't properly debate or counter what's said in a debate, so you try and pull insults by making comments relating to my personal choice of smoking marijuana mentioned in another thread as if that some how makes the BS you're typing anymore right.
Nice try with the personal snipe..... now how about you get back into the military and go over to Afghanistan to kill some more little children like you guys always do for fun...... Oh sorry.... there's those silly generalizations again. ;-)
How about you see above where you were just proven wrong in regards to your memory of what was said in a debate?
Naw, Americans are always right, especially when they're debating in a Canadian online forum..... how silly of me to forget.
I said they were wearing a Confederate flag.... stating it was American is stating the obvious as it sure isn't Canadian.
You claimed I said it was an American Flag, ie: the current US flag..... you were just proven wrong..... yet again..... and now you're trying to spin it as though you were talking about something else?
Maybe you should be the one smoking the pot..... you might be able to actually follow along for once in your damn life.
Tell me that I should be keeping up?
You seem to have forgotten what thread you're posting in.
Only for you.
Then don't bother to come into a topic and act like you're seriously debating it if you're not going to do what is expected from every other member.
So at this time, all you've provided are baseless claims and that's all they are.... baseless without any sources to back them up.... thus not worth my time, moving on.
I only troll trollers and only when the troll in question starts trolling..... You give sh*t, you get sh*t back, it's that simple.
Start acting like a grown adult and you might get treated like one.
How fk'n moronic can you be?
You're own words:
"Why do I need to go back through the threads when you are writing this stuff?"
I'll say it again since you're so god damn slow this week...... If you claim I said something, then quote it and back up wtf you're saying, otherwise go take a flying fk into a cactus.
Do you? Obviously not.
Keep on trolling asshole....
Yes you did say that.... you said that this one incident proves your claims that racism levels are not worse in the US compared to Canada..... and you use this One incident, which wasn't even directly racist in itself as your "Proof".... getting forgetful in your old age? Maybe it's time someone in your family registers you into an old folks home so all you have to worry about is getting that little golf ball in the hole while playing Wii sports with the other old folks.
And you're a troll that's been allowed to go around shoving your ill-informed self-righteous BS around while using your "I'm the poor lonely American in here defending my country from the attacks of those mean people in Canada" for too long..... and continue to use this lame argument as some form of defence to troll and insult everybody else in here you don't agree with though pity from the moderators and the little trap you set that if anybody does come down on you or bans you for your crap, you'll use it as proof of our Evil Canadian Oppression against you..... after all, we're all against you and out to get you. :roll:
Well considering you haven't actually addressed the topic for some time now and only seem to reply to my posts to further continue your trolling and snipes at me...... what other conclusion is there?
And since I avoided your last post in this thread up until now..... that's again further proof of your intentions in this thread since there's a number of other members in here who countered your arguments and added more to the conversation since your last post.
And now I bet that I have responded to this post of yours, you've already started to make up your long winded troll-response back at me again..... then stumbled upon this part of my post and will either go back and re-word things to make yourself sound a little better..... or will further trivialize this whole incident and toss out more trollish quips my way......
..... all the while not even contributing any further to the topic at hand.
After all, that's why you posted what you did at the beginning of this thread..... to try and stir up **** and make this into a US vs. Canada thing.
Oh that's right, how silly of me.... you already claimed that you're not the one in here making it into a US vs. Canada thing :roll:
Disclaimer?
Geez.... that's like going into a room full of people, unloading several clips of ammo at everybody, then after the fact, warning everybody that you're going to unload several clips at them.
You finger point at Canadians, you create an argument where there never was one, you make it out to being a US vs. Canada debate, which it never was.... then you come back in after the fact and state you're not in here to do that.
How f*cking stupid do you think people in here are?
But it's nice to know that I have a state of action named after me...... seems as though I made an impression on someone.
And now you just helped create more Praxing.... enjoy.
Wish granted.... now, do you have anything worthwhile or constructive to add to the topic at hand, or will this be yet another response to me to further troll and snipe me and others in here?
Newfie jokes might be acceptable in your circles but not in mine. And I know lots of people who feel just like I do. If a large enough segment of society deems it acceptable to poke fun at a specific group then it must be ok, even if it is wrong. Is that what you're saying? You justify it because everybody is getting a good ole laugh out of the situation. At the same time you don't give a second thought about how your target may feel. What does it matter. As long as you get your chuckle. Getting a laugh from your buddies at the expense of someone else makes you small and insignificant. The people who showed up at the Legion should hang their heads in shame. They're pushing ahead the racisim agenda and we're just as bad for condoning it. First prize...gimme a break!