S.J. Is it your reading or your eyesight that is deficient? In my question to Ron, I asked emphatically "where there is enough D.N.A."
It's time to bring the death penalty back!
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S.J. Is it your reading or your eyesight that is deficient? In my question to Ron, I asked emphatically "where there is enough D.N.A."
LOL, now this is funny. Humor is good when you have nothing to say, or when you twist things to suit your purpose.
Where did I say I would kill a person if they were not guilty. If the courts and decent people found a kiddy diddler guilty,,, no problem,,, I would have no problem, ending 'it's' life, as some people in this world need killing...simple as that,
or some people do not deserve the gift of life, and a kiddly diddler is the only one I can think of that fits that category.
That is where we disagree. Everybody deserves the right to life (it is not a ‘gift’, it is not yours or anybody else’s to give). I don’t think anybody ahs the right to take a human life (except perhaps in self defense).
As I see it when one commits a crime one forfits any "rights" that others enjoy, particularily when the crime is eliminating someone elses right to life.
And this is where the death penalty comes in. It is the self defense of law abiding citizens to protect themselves from those with no respect for others.
If our prisons were run more along the Mexican model I might agree that life with no parole is a better solution than the death penalty.
SirJP - Could you give an example of where you think it would be OK to kill someone in "self-defence?"
I do agree with the following: The Florida law holds that a crime victim may “stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary.” To defend homes and vehicles, an owner can wield lethal force with a freedom not granted to the police.
I can see where lawyers and judges would have some fun with the definition of "reasonably."
We have had some interesting cases here, one was "I was in fear for my life" Now that person better have a good reason why he shot another since only his (legally owned) gun was found. The victim was much larger person. Never found out how it was resolved.
Always good to hear the opinion of a real man..
Yes life if a gift... and I enjoy it to the fullest, and be damned the one that harms my kids in any way..
Death penalty also to parents who kill their kids, no analysis, just death... eye for an eye...
And that is EXACTLY the way it should be....acquiescence in the face of aggression is simply stupid........or at least the decision to surrender or resist should be left to the individual.....not the state.
After how long of a cooling off period?
Check into whether families of victims really feel better a few years after an execution or not.
They will ALL say the same thing...."it never brought back my beloved so and so".
Not all! This statement is wrong in so many ways.
Would bring great pleasure to many to see and hear some pos take his/her last breath that brought harm to their child.
The criminal justice system's emphasis on executions and the inevitible media coverage often create an impression that the much sought after resolution will come with the prisoner's execution, but the death penalty keeps the case alive for years, forcing the family to endure numerous appeals and parole board meetings. When the execution date arrives, if viewing the execution does not bring about the healing or closure expected, the family members may become even more skeptical about the healing process. Watching violence does not likely bring about healing. "We're talking about revenge, and it's not clear to me that revenge changes one's long term ability to deal with loss," stated one psychiatrist.[SIZE=-2][14][/SIZE] "Every culture has a different way of mourning, but witnessing executions isn't one of them."[SIZE=-2][15][/SIZE]
The vengeance offered by allowing families to view the execution also ignores the reality that victims often seek a meaning to their victimization, not revenge. "Healing has to be bigger and better than reducing ourselves to participating in gruesome acts."[SIZE=-2][16][/SIZE] Some family members have found healing through reconciliation. Brooks Douglass experienced a sense of satisfaction after meeting with George Ake, the other man convicted of killing his parents.[SIZE=-2][17][/SIZE] Because Ake showed genuine remorse, Douglass expressed his forgiveness.[SIZE=-2][18][/SIZE] "I felt a real closeness to him. We've been trapped in a foxhole together for all these years."[SIZE=-2][19][/SIZE] Paul Stevens, the father of a murder victim, now ministers to death row inmates at Eddyville Prison in Kentucky.[SIZE=-2][20][/SIZE] He found forgiveness allowed him to pay tribute to his daughter. Stevens described his transformation: "[h]ate absorbed every day of my life until I started talking to the inmates at the prison. One trip to death row and I was hooked, I couldn't quit. I'm still going eleven years later."[SIZE=-2][21][/SIZE] Other family members of murder victims have sought to abolish the very form of punishment that the state offers them as consolation. A murder victim's daughter-in-law formed a group opposed to the death penalty, reasoning, "[h]ow could we stand as murder victims, in our pain and sorrow, and give it to someone else's family as well?"[SIZE=-2][22][/SIZE] Offended by the state's offer of retribution, Marrietta Yeager, whose daughter was abducted and murdered during a family camping trip, stated "[t]o say an execution of some malfunctioning individual would help me heal insults the memory of my little girl. She is worthy of a more noble, honorable, and beautiful memorial."[SIZE=-2][23][/SIZE]
Yeah right. The gunslingers solution. Sort of hard to prove that a guy you detest steps one foot on your property and you blast his brains out. Pretty stupid if you ask me...
I wasn't talking about execution. I do not support the re-introduction of the Death Penalty........except perhaps for multiple murderers.....
Anyway we could get that up here. Sounds too good. We are supposed to run, duck and cover when accosted by thugs. Then call 911, after your family has been beaten, wife raped, dog shot, money stole. Yep, call 911. Good deal.:angry3:
Some are vengeful. Some are forgiving. Some don't respond at all and go into deep depression. Not everyone is the same.