It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Colpy

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I will stick with my emotions as they are what guides me in life, and seperates me from those that are so clinical,,with no emotion.
Found your pomposity amusing though...I always do. Or do you really think to assume to know me an my emotions, that too is a bit presumptious, very immature, and not a basis to stand on.

I'm not trying to have a spat with you, just to carry on a reasoned discussion.

Reason rules the law....it has to.

Purely emotional reactions lead to tragic miscarriages of justice.

So far you have ducked every opportunity to carry on a discussion........standing solely on your original, very unspecific contention ....and then you take offence when I want you to be a little clearer.....seems I'm not the only one with no "basis to stand on".
 

Risus

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Let them mingle with the other prisoners if you are too weak to take their life. Because if you do not know of anyone who has suffered a pedophile or you yourself, then you know nothing of what you talk about.
The minute they touch a child, in any way, they have stolen that life. So for that they should have theirs taken from them. Emotions, damn straight, when scum is allowed to live, and a innocent isn't, that to me is really sick. I don't care if they kill or not, they are not worth the privilege of 'LIFE'! I would love to be the executioner...

I agree that these sick offenders should be put in with the main population in prison. Turn a blind eye and let their peers take care of the sickos.
We shouldn't be wasting money protecting them.
 

JLM

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I agree that these sick offenders should be put in with the main population in prison. Turn a blind eye and let their peers take care of the sickos.
We shouldn't be wasting money protecting them.

If they were inadvertantly placed in with the General Pop and came to harm that would be one thing, but to deliberately place them there to ensure harm is a little bit chicken sh*t. One thing that might work is to put them in a room with the father of the victim (at the father's descretion) would be a more proper way to do it. Letting prisoners do it doesn't quite square with the old adage "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
 

Sporty883

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I agree that these sick offenders should be put in with the main population in prison. Turn a blind eye and let their peers take care of the sickos.
We shouldn't be wasting money protecting them.
And put in a decent and mature way. I like this post....common sense & decency.
No reason to argue, debate, or otherwise, because my mind is not going to be swayed, or changed on this subject know need to.
Like I said unless you have been, or knows of someone who has been a victim of a pedophile, you really have no leg to stand on, and go by the status quo, or what makes you a nice guy. I have no need to play nice guy when it comes to low lifes like a pedophile, nor do I want to house them,,, they are not fixable.
 

Risus

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If they were inadvertantly placed in with the General Pop and came to harm that would be one thing, but to deliberately place them there to ensure harm is a little bit chicken sh*t. One thing that might work is to put them in a room with the father of the victim (at the father's descretion) would be a more proper way to do it. Letting prisoners do it doesn't quite square with the old adage "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
Why should they be given special protection???
 

Risus

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Special protection??????????????????? You mean allowed to be massacred while beng outnumbered by a bunch of other felons??????????? Yeah, right.
No not massacred. Getting what the scum deserves. The point is, they shouldn't be given special treatment because they are scup. Treat them like every other felon. I find it amusing that even murderers find these perverts scum.
 

gerryh

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Like I said unless you have been, or knows of someone who has been a victim of a pedophile, you really have no leg to stand on, and go by the status quo, or what makes you a nice guy. I have no need to play nice guy when it comes to low lifes like a pedophile, nor do I want to house them,,, they are not fixable.


Ok...then I have a leg to stand on and I say NO DEATH PENALTY PERIOD!
 

JLM

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No not massacred. Getting what the scum deserves. The point is, they shouldn't be given special treatment because they are scup. Treat them like every other felon. I find it amusing that even murderers find these perverts scum.

Yep, that's one of the characteristics of a convicted criminal- no interest at being any place on the "nobility" scale except to be second worst.
 

Sporty883

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Well none of us are without sin.
I did not come here to debate the issue, I have felt this way for years, so in no way will change my opinion. And respect those with same. No time for bleeding hearts. Yes bring back the death penalty for all who dare to harm a child in any way.
 

gerryh

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Well none of us are without sin.
I did not come here to debate the issue, I have felt this way for years, so in no way will change my opinion. And respect those with same. No time for bleeding hearts. Yes bring back the death penalty for all who dare to harm a child in any way.


so.... you have no problem with killing someone you think is guilty, even if it is proven after the fact the that person was innocent.
 

Ron in Regina

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DNA and other test have pretty much taken chance out of the equation.


DNA....yes....but every step in the chain of evidence up to and including
maliciousness and incompetence and corruption in that chain of evidence?
No...'cuz even with DNA is the human element with all of its pettiness and
stupidity to influence the outcome of any events to fit a preconceived
perception regardless of the evidence.
 
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JLM

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DNA....yes....but every step in the chain of evidence up to and including
maliciousness and incompetence and corruption in that chain of evidence?
No...'cuz even with DNA is the human element with all of its pettiness and
stupidity to influence the outcome of any events to fit a preconceived
perception regardless of the evidence.

Just one question Ron. Where there is enough D.N.A. found why couldn't it be split into three separate portions to be processed by three separate teams, each team unknown to the other two teams? It's probably not that simple, I know but if not why not?
 

Ron in Regina

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Just one question Ron. Where there is enough D.N.A. found why couldn't it be split into three separate portions to be processed by three separate teams, each team unknown to the other two teams? It's probably not that simple, I know but if not why not?



Great Idea....but one guy (perhaps with an agenda) collects that original DNA that would be divided into three parts to be examined by those three teams....

Maybe the DNA collected isn't the DNA submitted...but that of the most likely
suspect with the original DNA taken from a victim to sit in a box in an evidence
locker for the next couple of decades...but the DNA submitted is a perfect match
for the most likely subject regardless of the original evidence to the 99.99999%.
Go figure.

Once the human element is involved, anything is possible.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Just one question Ron. Where there is enough D.N.A. found why couldn't it be split into three separate portions to be processed by three separate teams, each team unknown to the other two teams? It's probably not that simple, I know but if not why not?

What if there is enough DNA sample only for one test, and not for three tests?
 

SirJosephPorter

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Well none of us are without sin.
I did not come here to debate the issue, I have felt this way for years, so in no way will change my opinion. And respect those with same. No time for bleeding hearts. Yes bring back the death penalty for all who dare to harm a child in any way.

You'll have to define 'harm' and 'child'.

That is simple. ‘Harm’ is what the society considers to be harmful (by society of course, the majority). Same way, ‘child’ is what society considers to be a child (in Ontario, that is anybody less than 19 years old).

E.g. a child who shows gay tendencies, if his parents encourage him to find his own sexuality, it could quite conceivably be considered as harming the child, and presumably deserving of death penalty.

Fortunately, we have the constitution and the Charter to keep out such nonsense. The term ‘harm’ and ‘child’ are very subjective and mean what one wants them to mean.