Israeli settlements completely surround Jerusalem

[taxslave]

You should really do a little research before you quote.

The actual quote is from Pastor Martin Niemoller:

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me."


Niemoller, despite being a decorated U-Boat captain in WWI, spent 8 years in concentration camps as a prisoner of Adolph Hitler because he resisted the Aryan Clause Hitler tried to force on Christian churches in Germany....which prevented Jews from becoming clegy.


Niemoller was speaking for the Jews, against the Jew murderers.

Funny how you left the Jews out.

To twist Niemoller's words against the Jewish state, to use them in defense of the followers of Hamas, an organization that considers ALL Jew-murder as "Praise to Allah".........

Well, it just ain't right.

And the Jews will never again appease Jew-haters.

The jew haters on here don't have a problem with them coming for the jews. That would make more room for their muzzie terrorist friends.

I eliminated nothing. I went to wikipedia and copied the official version of Niemöller's famous poem. I didn't even notice the version I referenced didn't make a reference to Jews until Colpy pointed it out.

The official version is the one posted on the Martin-Niemöller-Foundation website:

„Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten,
habe ich geschwiegen,
ich war ja kein Kommunist.

Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten,
habe ich geschwiegen,
ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.

Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten,
habe ich geschwiegen,
ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.

Als sie mich holten,
gab es keinen mehr,
der protestieren konnte.“

Martin-Niemöller-Stiftung - /daszitat

I don't speak German, but I am pretty sure i don't see a reference to Jews (Juden) in the official version.

Apparently several versions of the poem exist which have added references to Jews and Jehovah Witnesses. According to Colpy's referenced link by a German history professor:

Hello, I am a professor of German history a the University of California, Santa Barbara, where I've been teaching since 1992.
My research specialization is how various groups have looked back on the Nazi period over the years since 1945. I've written a book Legacies of Dachau, 1933-2001 about how various groups shaped the Dachau camp since its liberation in 1945.

In November 1945 German Pastor Martin Niemöller visited the former Dachau concentration camp, where he had been imprisoned from 1941 to April 1945. His diary entry about that visit and some subsequent speeches he gave imply that that visit triggered the thought that became this famous quotation. Since discovering the diary entry in the late 1980s I've tried to find out when Niemöller first said that quotation in its poetic form, but I have not been able to document it with a published source. Thus I can't say what the original version was.

Niemöller, origin of famous quotation "First they came for the Communists..."

However, the poem is clearly about silence in the face of oppression and injustice, which would include antisemitism (Jews) and every other group which was interned in the Nazi death camps. Narrowing the poem's meaning down to just being about antisemitism is clearly a distortion of the poem's original meaning especially since the official version doesn't reference Jews.

But the point of Colpy's attack against me is to divert attention away from Palestinian oppression and injustice and change the topic to being about me. Sorry Colpy, and anyone else who wants to change the topic to being about me, that ain't going to work.

This thread is about Jerusalem now being 100% surrounded by Jewish only colonies. Effectively a two state solution which includes a Palestinian capital in East Jerusalem is dead as of last week.

I mentioned the poem, because Zionist authorities keep coming for the remaining dirty Arabs who live in Jerusalem and evict them from their homes while our government, Colpy, goober and others are silent.

I have no problem stating that everyone (Jews, Muslims, Arab, Israelis...) are entitled to universal human rights. Unlike the Harper government, Colpy, Goober and many people here, I am speaking out against religious based oppression and injustice directed at the people Zionists believe God didn't chose..

Does anyone care to speak out against Palestinian oppression and injustice? Or are you going to be silent too?

Some of us speak out all the time about the terrorism and oppression that Palestine terrorists inflict on Israel. Doesn't seem to do much good since you jew haters are on a crusade to bring about the demise of Israel.

 

[earth_as_one]

Netanyahu’s E1 Ma’aleh Adumin settlement construction announcement drew considerable flack. What it means remains to be seen. Palestinian rights have been spurned for decades. Expect little change now.
At issue is separating the West Bank from Jerusalem, Judaizing the entire city, surrounding Palestinian urban areas with encroaching Israeli settlements, and allegedly preventing a two-state solution no longer possible with or without E1 development.
Israeli Settlement Construction Fallout | Global Research


Implementation of the E1 development plan, approved in 1999, would largely complete a crescent of Jewish settlements around the east of Jerusalem, separating it from Palestinian towns and cities in the West Bank. It would also almost bisect the West Bank, making a contiguous Palestinian state almost impossible.
Israel's E1 plan: barren hills long targeted for settlement expansion | World news | The Guardian

Realistically, the ethnic cleansing process is beyond a point of no return as far as Jerusalem is concerned. All that remains of what could have been the state of Palestine are shrinking fragmented walled in islands of living misery...

If that's God's Plan, I suspect the next phase will be biblical....

He does at times make valid points but..............
What I find irritating is he insults members while calling for civil discussion
Labels Members with BS, while calling for civil discussion.
When proven to be in error, as we all can be cannot find the character to admit said mistake.

Yet is continuous in his calls for civil discussion.

That was called for. Thanks.

But do you believe in universal human rights?

The jew haters on here don't have a problem with them coming for the jews. That would make more room for their muzzie terrorist friends.



Some of us speak out all the time about the terrorism and oppression that Palestine terrorists inflict on Israel. Doesn't seem to do much good since you jew haters are on a crusade to bring about the demise of Israel.

I have spoken out against Palestinian war criminals who fire rockets and missiles against israeli civilians. I fully support arresting and bringing those responsible to the ICC where they can stand trial for their crimes...

I also support treating all war criminals the same regardless of nationality... or in the case of Palestinians... limited nationality and no capital city. Not a nation state, but a series of penal colonies populated by a new class of people, born to a lifetime of imprisonment.

In the holy lands of all places. This must be God's will.

 

[darkbeaver]

The Zionist Empire is in the terminal stage. It has made itself the shame of the planet.

 

[taxslave]

Netanyahu’s E1 Ma’aleh Adumin settlement construction announcement drew considerable flack. What it means remains to be seen. Palestinian rights have been spurned for decades. Expect little change now.
At issue is separating the West Bank from Jerusalem, Judaizing the entire city, surrounding Palestinian urban areas with encroaching Israeli settlements, and allegedly preventing a two-state solution no longer possible with or without E1 development.
Israeli Settlement Construction Fallout | Global Research


Implementation of the E1 development plan, approved in 1999, would largely complete a crescent of Jewish settlements around the east of Jerusalem, separating it from Palestinian towns and cities in the West Bank. It would also almost bisect the West Bank, making a contiguous Palestinian state almost impossible.
Israel's E1 plan: barren hills long targeted for settlement expansion | World news | The Guardian

Realistically, the ethnic cleansing process is beyond a point of no return as far as Jerusalem is concerned. All that remains of what could have been the state of Palestine are shrinking fragmented walled in islands of living misery...

If that's God's Plan, I suspect the next phase will be biblical....

That was called for. Thanks.

But do you believe in universal human rights?



I have spoken out against Palestinian war criminals who fire rockets and missiles against israeli civilians. I fully support arresting and bringing those responsible to the ICC where they can stand trial for their crimes...

I also support do the same to all war criminals regardless of nationality... or in the case of Palestinians... limited nationality and no capital city. Not a nation state, but a series of penal colonies populated by a new class of people, born to a lifetime of imprisonment.

In the holy lands of all places. This must be God's will.

So you think it is god's will that terrorists lob bombs into Israel and detonate bombs on school busses?

The Zionist Empire is in the terminal stage. It has made itself the shame of the planet.

One piddling little sandbar surrounded by sharks is hardly an empire.

 

[earth_as_one]

I'm agnostic. A fence sitter regarding the existence of God. However, if God exists and these lands are holy, then I doubt they'd be pleased with man's changes to the region.

I sincerely hope this doesn't turn out bad... but I can't foresee an ending that doesn't involve nukes on one side or the other... most likely both.

A 100% Jewish Jerusalem isn't good for Jerusalem. As it becomes more Jewish, it becomes more a bull's eye, like Tel Aviv. Diversity was a strength, that's about to be completely lost.

The next round of missile strikes will include rockets hitting Jerusalem. The chances of the Dome and Mosque surviving the first missile strike is near zero. Both sides will bomb the city. If Palestinian war criminals don't hit the the Dome and Mosque, then Israeli war criminals won't miss...

A New Temple will go up and then nuclear war.

Prophecies can be self fulfilling. The bible says some scary stuff regarding the end times. Why are we in a hurry to get there?

Nooooo. Any open support would instanly justify Keebeck seperatists and 100% autonomous First Nation States in Canada. We can offer up support in different ways.

Would it float your boat if the RCMP went there to over see the development of a Palestinian police and intelligence service that was on the up and up?

The RCMP is a Militia, few realize that or Lest We Forgot...

Peacekeepers' Diaries - Royal Canadian Mounted Police

Yes it would... I'm a pro-Canadian Peacekeeper! Support Our Troops! kind of guy. I have nothing but the highest respect for those who serve Canada as per international laws and treaties that we've sworn to uphold.


However, both sides would need to want peace before any Canadians should be sent. This is about to go white hot and I wouldn't want any Canadians near the place.

The further away from this conflict the better.

BTW: Don't take that as a lack of empathy for civilians on either side.

Welcome to Canada:
Home page - Citizenship and Immigration Canada - Canada

 

[MHz]

Prophecies can be self fulfilling. The bible says some scary stuff regarding the end times. Why are we in a hurry to get there?

God's plans for the area has a happy ending for everybody involved, the Rothschild has none of that for anybody.

This is God's version, the human attempt is just endless war. What person, let alone a Jew, would want to be there when every living person in the whole land is killed?

Zep:1:14-18:
The great day of the LORD is near,
it is near,
and hasteth greatly,
even the voice of the day of the LORD:
the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.
That day is a day of wrath,
a day of trouble and distress,
a day of wasteness and desolation,
a day of darkness and gloominess,
a day of clouds and thick darkness,
A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities,
and against the high towers.
And I will bring distress upon men,
that they shall walk like blind men,
because they have sinned against the LORD:
and their blood shall be poured out as dust,
and their flesh as the dung.
Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD's wrath;
but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy:
for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land.

 

[earth_as_one]

This has been in the news all day- You stated that Harper was.............................. what was that again.

Canada joins in global criticism for new Israeli settlement plan | Canada | News | National Post

Harper supports Palestinian oppression and injustice, because silence means tacit approval.

For the record here is the Harper government reaction to news that Israel plans to build thousands of Jewish only homes on Palestinian land:

Dec 3, 2012
The spokesman for Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird stuck Monday to the same response line: "Unilateral actions on either side do not advance the peace process."

Baird's office refused to say whether the government stands by the established government policy that says Israeli settlements are a "serious obstacle" to peace.

Stephen Harper's spokesman refused to say whether the prime minister raised the question of the new settlement construction when he spoke Saturday by telephone with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

"No further comment on the call — the PM's tweet will stand," Andrew MacDougall said in an emailed response to questions.

"I can state that Canada's position is that unilateral actions on either side do not advance the peace process."

Harper's Twitter account said Saturday: "Spoke today to Benjamin Netanyahu, who thanked Canada for its friendship and principled position this week at the UN."

Canada plays down Israeli settlement criticism - Politics - CBC News

Principled! That's a joke.

Today in the House

...The Harper government has been criticized for staying virtually silent on the Israeli move, beyond a generic statement that unilateral moves by either side were not good for the prospects of peace.

Baird reiterated the government’s heavy criticism of the Palestinian statehood bid during question period when he was asked about the settlements by the Bloc Quebecois.

But he emphasized that neither the UN vote nor the settlement announcement is helpful.


Canada joins in global criticism for new Israeli settlement plan | Canada | News | National Post

FYI: Saying something is not helpful isn't condemnation.

C'mon people wise up. Ifa government can't condemn violation of fundamental human rights and war crimes, do you you really trust them to respect your rights and freedoms? Come crunch time when it counts... Think about it...

 

[petros]

WHY did you eliminate Jews from the quote EAO??????

Of all the many versions quoted, and in consideration of Niemoller's own comments on it, the elimination of Jews from the quote is absolutely beyond the Pale.

And you know it.

I can explain the obvious to you, he's pointing out the allegedly meaningless "others" to you.

 

[gore0bsessed]

So you think it is god's will that terrorists lob bombs into Israel and detonate bombs on school busses?

That kind of thing will happen when you're occupying land of people who lived there before you. You can expect repercussions when you've pushed people out of their homeland and build settlements and tried to erase any memory of the existence of Palestinians.

Do the Israeli sycophants even know about this or choose to ignore it?

Human shield - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The IDF admittedly used Palestinians as human shields, a practice subsequently banned by Israel's High Court of Justice.[25] The Israeli Defense Ministry appealed this decision.[26]

 

[petros]

You mean like how you, EAO and Mhz live off the benefits that Canada can provide you, because of oppression, murder, genocide, and injustice?

I'm still waiting to see an answer to how you justify your hatred of Israel, for doing what you live off the avails of.

If it were a present day situation like Israel/Palestine and I had to make the same decision my grandfather did?

 

[MHz]

You mean like how you, EAO and Mhz live off the benefits that Canada can provide you, because of oppression, murder, genocide, and injustice?

I'm still waiting to see an answer to how you justify your hatred of Israel, for doing what you live off the avails of.

You fall off the wagon or are these just the ramblings of a dry drunk?

 

[CDNBear]

That kind of thing will happen when you're occupying land of people who lived there before you.

So you'd advocate for First Nations to start taking violent action against you, Mhz and EAO?

You fall off the wagon or are these just the ramblings of a dry drunk?

No and no, you just aren't capable of following the conversation.

 

[Just the Facts]

I heard the Harper government is so impressed by the way Zionists have treated Palestinians, that they intend to use their approach as a basis for all future First Nation Land Claim negotiations. I hope you like walls, guard towers, razor wire and checkpoints. Resistors will be abducted, tortured and executed. Since you approve of the way Israelis treat their indigenous peoples, I'm sure you'll be happy. If not you better learn how to cope with being shackled in stress positions.

lol yeah that's why Palestinians are falling over each other trying to get Israeli citizenship. Why are they not clamoring for an opportunity for Lebanese citizenship so they can join they're brethren there? I guess you must have very objectively mistaken the way Lebanon treats Palestinians with the way Israel treats Palestinians. An honet mistake, I'm sure.

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.

Palestinians are getting screwed over by the Israelis and our government isn't speaking out.

Silence = tacit approval.


As MHz mentioned 600,000 Israelis already live illegally on Palestinian land. So the project is well under way. As referenced in the OP, this latest colony for Israeli Jews on Palestinian land separates Jerusalem from the West Bank. Now that's been done, its only a matter of time until all remaining neighborhoods in and around Jerusalem are zoned for Jews only. Its only a matter of time until out every remaining dirty Arab has been evicted from Jerusalem and the surrounded suburbs.

Would you object then after the project is complete?

Canada's silence regarding this ongoing war crime is shameful. The rest of the world including the US has at least condemned this action. But no one is proposing any punitive actions. So Israel's ethnic cleansing will continue unabated.

BTW, in addition to the 3000 homes announced last week which cut off the West Bank from Jerusalem, Israel just announced the construction of a further 3600 Jewish only homes on conquered Palestinian land in and around Jerusalem, filling in some of the remaining gaps:

Tuesday 4th December, Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, approved Monday evening a new plan to construct 3600 new housing units in East Jerusalem, raising the number of Israeli settlement units after the Palestinian UN recognized the state of Palestine to 6600.

The Israeli government approved to construct 3600 new housing units distributed on three areas: 1600 new housing units in Jewish neighbourhood Ramat Shlomo, 1000 units in Givat Ze'ev, and another 1000 housing units in Beit Safafa.
Israel Approves New Plan to Construct 3600 More Housing Units in East Jerusalem

At this rate, all of Jerusalem and the suburbs will be zoned Jewish only within a few weeks.

Arabs whose homes become zoned Jewish only find themselves in a Kafkaesque situation. Technically they are living illegally in their homes and risk eviction. They can only sell their homes to a Jew. They cannot pass on their family home to their children. Meanwhile the authorities watch their every move looking for an excuse to evict them and demolish their home. Visiting family or taking a vacation risks not being allowed back to their homes, where upon the state can declare their home abandoned. Once that happens the authorities will seize their home (no compensation) and demolish it. When the dust settles, the land is sold to a Jewish developer, who builds a new home which can only be bought by a Jew. Israel has done this to hundreds of thousands of dirty Arabs since they became a state in 1948.

In 2002, both the Al-Ghawe and Hanun families were evicted from their homes by Israeli police, after Israeli settlers used falsified documents to claim ownership of these houses.

Family members lived in tents for four months before returning to their homes. The families were able to present their documents
proving their legal ownership before the courts on the 19th of February, but the eviction orders still remain in effect.

The Israelis don’t want me on this land. The ownership documents from the settlers are false, but there is no fairness in the Israeli courts for Palestinians. I was born here in my house, where I have lived for all of the 46 years of my life. Where do they want me to go? I haven’t any other place to live -Nasser Ghawe, Sheikh Jarrah resident

This is an ethnic cleaning that will eventually spread to all of Jerusalem. We are asking all people everywhere to unify against what is going on here and stand firm in the face of evictions. These families legally own their homes, and they should be allowed to stay -Rima Essa, Coalition for Jerusalem

Two Palestinian families due to be evicted by Israeli authorities in Sheikh Jarrah, Occupied East Jerusalem

Israel is a state which has practiced ethnic cleansing since its creation.

The Harper government's position is that they can ignore Israel's ethnic cleansing because ethnic cleansing is a dirty word. Canada's silence is tacit approval.



Because the Harper government unshakably supports Israel's cruel oppression of Palestinians and all the injustices Palestinians suffer.

You either believe in universal human rights or you don't. You can't believe in universal human rights for some and not others, because then it wouldn't be universal.

Since the Harper government doesn't believe that Palestinians should have freedom or justice and supports Israel's policy of awarding rights on level of Jewishness, what kind of a government are they?

Where do you think they stand regarding the rights of all Canadians?

Regarding this repugnant post:
This forum is inclusive to everyone who can follow forum rules.

I trust you have a map of these Jewish only zones, right?

 

[darkbeaver]

lol yeah that's why Palestinians are falling over each other trying to get Israeli citizenship. Why are they not clamoring for an opportunity for Lebanese citizenship so they can join they're brethren there? I guess you must have very objectively mistaken the way Lebanon treats Palestinians with the way Israel treats Palestinians. An honet mistake, I'm sure.

While Israeli citizens have for many years been falling all over themselves to leave Israel.

 

[earth_as_one]

lol yeah that's why Palestinians are falling over each other trying to get Israeli citizenship. Why are they not clamoring for an opportunity for Lebanese citizenship so they can join they're brethren there? I guess you must have very objectively mistaken the way Lebanon treats Palestinians with the way Israel treats Palestinians. An honet mistake, I'm sure.



I trust you have a map of these Jewish only zones, right?

Israeli citizenship is better than no citizenship, because being a second class citizen is better than being deported to Gaza as a non-citizen.

the colored in areas are the parts of the West Bank which are closed and restricted areas for Palestinians.

Do you have a map which shows the parts of Canada which are off limits to Canadians?

 

[Colpy]

‘Where was the outrage?’ As hundreds of thousands cheer Hamas chief in Gaza, world remains silent: Israel | Israel & Middle East | World | News | National Post

 

[DaSleeper]

I'm sure EAO will be able to spin that somehow......

 

[captain morgan]

An excerpt:

"The Hamas leader, often with Hamas prime minister Ismail Haniyeh by his side, has repeatedly called for the destruction of Israel and pledged never to accept a two-state solution. He also urged Hamas and the Palestinian Authority (PA) to heal their rift and work together — a reconciliation that would almost certainly doom any peace process, say commentators."

Yep, nothing quite like bargaining in good faith.

 

[earth_as_one]

Speaking of spin here is a good one from Colpy's link:

Hamas has ruled Gaza since 2007 after winning a brief civil war with its rival Fatah, which still controls the West Bank.​

Any news source that portrays Hamas as coming to power in Gaza by force without mentioning their unfulfilled democratic mandate, Abbas's use of violence to seize power in the West Bank or US/Israeli interference in The West Bank and Gaza which triggered a civil war is either incomplete, inaccurate or deliberately manipulative.

The Hamas leader, often with Hamas prime minister Ismail Haniyeh by his side, has repeatedly called for the destruction of Israel and pledged never to accept a two-state solution. He also urged Hamas and the Palestinian Authority (PA) to heal their rift and work together — a reconciliation that would almost certainly doom any peace process, say commentators.​

What he actually said was:

"Palestine is our land and nation from the (Mediterranean) sea to the (Jordan) river, from north to south, and we cannot cede an inch or any part of it,"

"Resistance is the right way to recover our rights, as well as all forms of struggle - political, diplomatic, legal and popular, but all are senseless without resistance."​

Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal tells Gaza that Palestinians 'cannot cede an inch' to Israel - Telegraph

Yes I agree that world leaders should condemn the words of the Elected Palestinian government as "unhelpful to the peace process", coining a phrase recently used by the Harper government to describe Israel's ongoing ethnic cleansing actions around Jerusalem... which have essentially killed all chances of Palestinians ever achieving freedom and justice by peaceful means.

I don't believe this conflict can or will be resolved by negotiations. Israel will continue to cleanse most of Palestine of Palestinians. Eventually every Palestinian refugee will find themselves incarcerated in a series of giant open air prisons. Palestinians will continue to resist the injustice and oppression by violent and non-violent means. Our news will continue to portray Israel as the victims, even though Israel has already stolen most of Palestine from the Palestinian people and erased Palestine off the map. The Harper government will continue to unshakably support Israeli war criminals. The US will continue to use their UNSC veto powers to ensure Palestinians suffer oppression and injustice without end.

That the Harper government unshakably supports Palestinian injustice and oppression speaks volumes about this government's regarding position universal human rights, freedom and justice.

You either support fundamental human rights and freedoms for everyone or else you don't truly believe in them.

 

[Colpy]

Speaking of spin here is a good one from Colpy's link:

Hamas has ruled Gaza since 2007 after winning a brief civil war with its rival Fatah, which still controls the West Bank.
​

Any news source that portrays Hamas as coming to power in Gaza by force without mentioning their unfulfilled democratic mandate, Abbas's use of violence to seize power in the West Bank or US/Israeli interference in The West Bank and Gaza which triggered a civil war is either incomplete, inaccurate or deliberately manipulative.

The Hamas leader, often with Hamas prime minister Ismail Haniyeh by his side, has repeatedly called for the destruction of Israel and pledged never to accept a two-state solution. He also urged Hamas and the Palestinian Authority (PA) to heal their rift and work together — a reconciliation that would almost certainly doom any peace process, say commentators.
​

What he actually said was:

"Palestine is our land and nation from the (Mediterranean) sea to the (Jordan) river, from north to south, and we cannot cede an inch or any part of it,"
​

"Resistance is the right way to recover our rights, as well as all forms of struggle - political, diplomatic, legal and popular, but all are senseless without resistance."
​

Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal tells Gaza that Palestinians 'cannot cede an inch' to Israel - Telegraph

Yes I agree that world leaders should condemn the words of the Elected Palestinian government as "unhelpful to the peace process", coining a phrase recently used by the Harper government to describe Israel's ongoing ethnic cleansing actions around Jerusalem... which have essentially killed all chances of Palestinians ever achieving freedom and justice by peaceful means.

I don't believe this conflict can or will be resolved by negotiations. Israel will continue to cleanse most of Palestine of Palestinians. Eventually every Palestinian refugee will find themselves incarcerated in a series of giant open air prisons. Palestinians will continue to resist the injustice and oppression by violent and non-violent means. Our news will continue to portray Israel as the victims, even though Israel has already stolen most of Palestine from the Palestinian people and erased Palestine off the map. The Harper government will continue to unshakably support Israeli war criminals. The US will continue to use their UNSC veto powers to ensure Palestinians suffer oppression and injustice without end.

That the Harper government unshakably supports Palestinian injustice and oppression speaks volumes about this government's regarding position universal human rights, freedom and justice.

You either support fundamental human rights and freedoms for everyone or else you don't truly believe in them.

Ahhh...imagine, if you will, Netanyahu saying "The West Bank and Gaza belong to us. The Arabs will have to get out."

Ya think just maybe that would cause an uproar???

Palestine, btw, never WAS on the map as a nation.

The political mandate of Hamas ran out years ago. Time to stop talking about them as if they were legitimate.

BTW, the accusation that Israel is pushing the Arabs out of a non-existant "Palestine" is ludicrous. In 1970, there were 1 million in the WB and Gaza....now there are 4 million.

Doesn't sound like many are leaving.