Hugo Chavez Dead at 58.

Cliffy

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Just like and at the same time Saddam. Ahmwhatshisface, Kim Jong Il, and Afghanistan did.
Well, that only leaves Ahmanutcase to bump off then. Gawd bless America for ridding the world of upiddy scum who don't use the US currency.
 

petros

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The Heebs were sicked on him so it doesn't look obvious.

Sh!t, I almost forgot the Lesbians ditching the USD

Back in the day when the Pound Sterling tanked it was called Colonial Independence and made to look like a good thing the British Empire had collapsed.
 

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Well, that only leaves Ahmanutcase to bump off then. Gawd bless America for ridding the world of upiddy scum who don't use the US currency.

Not you Cliffy. You don't think the U.S infected Chavez with cancer now do you?

So there Americans if they live in Florida Smack. And they have to live there because the good Venesulans kicked them out for working for Uncle Sham.

Hey I'm just saying.

I know it hurts you... but there it is.
 

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The crime problem in Venezuela is related to drugs and gang violence and unrelated to Chavez's reforms. Mexico has the same problems only worse and they don't have Chavez. Funny how no one blames the Mexican government for these problems, yet some here believe Chavez is somehow responsible for problems caused by what is really an American drug problem. Legalize and regulate drugs and the crime goes away.

I disagree with the way how Chavez nationalized some corporations. IMO, what he did was theft. As a result corporations pulled out of Venezuela and took their money with them, leading to devaluation of the Venezuelan currency. Also inflation is a predictable result of raising the standard of living of the poor. More wealth in the hands of the poor increases demand, reducing supply leading to inflation. But inflation resulting from these causes are short term. Eventually inflation should settle down as the Venezuelan economy stabilizes at a new normal.

If Venezuela increased monetary supply (quantitative easing) to pay their bills that would also cause inflation. Our governments here in Canada and the US have been doing this since 2008 and eventually all that extra money has to come back and bite us big time. We will eventually experience the same inflationary pressures when our economies recover and people start buying and borrowing.

Bucky- Read the crime stats again- The big V is higher than Mexico and they have a drug war going on. Make sure you open at least one eye and your brain as well.
 

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I really don't know much about Chavez, but it is my tendency to judge a man's character by the number of people who buy the media inspired hatred for the person. Judging by who hated him and who thought he did good for his people, I would have to conclude he was not worthy of hatred.
 

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I really don't know much about Chavez, but it is my tendency to judge a man's character by the number of people who buy the media inspired hatred for the person. Judging by who hated him and who thought he did good for his people, I would have to conclude he was not worthy of hatred.

Would you use the same criteria for that fellow ruling Rwanda now?
 

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Owen Jones in The Independent
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"The truth is that Chavez won democratic election after democratic election, despite the often vicious hostility of the media, because his policies transformed the lives of millions of previously ignored Venezuelans. Poverty has fallen from nearly half to 27.8 per cent, while absolute poverty has been more than halved. Six million children receive free meals a day; near-universal free health care has been established; and education spending has doubled as a proportion of GDP. A housing programme launched in 2011 built over 350,000 homes, bringing hundreds of thousands of families out of sub-standard housing in thebarrios. Some of his smug foreign critics suggest Chavez effectively bought the votes of the poor – as though winning elections by delivering social justice is somehow bribery."
 

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Owen Jones in The Independent
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"The truth is that Chavez won democratic election after democratic election, despite the often vicious hostility of the media, because his policies transformed the lives of millions of previously ignored Venezuelans. Poverty has fallen from nearly half to 27.8 per cent, while absolute poverty has been more than halved. Six million children receive free meals a day; near-universal free health care has been established; and education spending has doubled as a proportion of GDP. A housing programme launched in 2011 built over 350,000 homes, bringing hundreds of thousands of families out of sub-standard housing in thebarrios. Some of his smug foreign critics suggest Chavez effectively bought the votes of the poor – as though winning elections by delivering social justice is somehow bribery."

Now if I added my opinion on others things he did not do well at then I would be using a Memorial thread for improper purposes. And I am not making a jab at you.
 

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From CNN
Making the poor count -- a Hugo Chavez legacy - CNN.com
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"But, for the outside world, at least, the inclusion of the poor will probably remain at the top of Chavez's legacy.

"The formula is so simple it makes you wonder why nobody thought of it before. After all, a 22-year-old single mother of two in Petare, Chapeu Mangueira, Chimalhuacan or Ciudad Bolivar, doesn't care about macroeconomic policies or free market economies, but about a leader who will make it possible to feed her children tomorrow. And to millions of Venezuelans, that was Hugo Chavez."
 

petros

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From CNN
Making the poor count -- a Hugo Chavez legacy - CNN.com
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"But, for the outside world, at least, the inclusion of the poor will probably remain at the top of Chavez's legacy.

"The formula is so simple it makes you wonder why nobody thought of it before. After all, a 22-year-old single mother of two in Petare, Chapeu Mangueira, Chimalhuacan or Ciudad Bolivar, doesn't care about macroeconomic policies or free market economies, but about a leader who will make it possible to feed her children tomorrow. And to millions of Venezuelans, that was Hugo Chavez."
They forget to mention those were Native people pulled up first. Over Hugo's time in office how many got to at least grade 9 or 10 who would never have before? Will they be able to finish?
 
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