Hugo Chavez Dead at 58.
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No it doesn't. It shows that my contempt for you simply dictates you aren't worth A material or any real effort.
And since it upsets you so, that says so much more about your failings than any assumed failings you think I have.
Ya, like that kind of mad, lol.
That's all you've begged for since you got banned form your pay site and came slithering back here to deposit the same old insults and idiocy filled posts.
Suck it up buttercup, you earned it.
It still doesn't show that the lives of the poor got worse. Do the same data for Iran with 1979 as the pivot year, then do it for Cuba using 1959 as the pivot year and they will all show the same thing, hardships started when they booted out the US and their cronies and in all the cases the lives of the poor got better despite the wishes of the US.
Walter **** off with your red points, BTW
You're being far to generous Walter.
That's a nice change to see in your posting style.
You are the ones making claims that things got worse for the people, the data doesn't back you up. Use that for Iran and Cuba as well. Sure as soon as they kicked the US out they got all sorts of underhanded things tossed at them. Point is they were still better off, a point you have a hard time accepting.
Your own link shows where the inflation and scarcity is coming from and it has nothing to do with the Government of Venezuela.
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Last year the government ordered companies such as Procter & Gamble Co. (PG) and Unilver Plc (ULVR) to lower the price of shampoo, soap and other personal care products to contain inflationary pressures. Authorities regulate prices for a wide range of products including chicken, cheese and coffee.
The government blames producers and merchants for hoarding products and this week carried out televised raids of warehouses. Among goods confiscated were 9,000 tons of sugar, part of which was imported by a supplier to the local unit of PepsiCo Inc. (PEP)
“The radical and irresponsible right wants to keep the people in a constant state of anxiety and therefore they’ve launched a new campaign of under-supplying,” Food Minister Carlos Osorio told state news agency AVN on Jan. 9.
Considering the opposition is financed by the west they should make treason a hanging offense. (as in 2002)
Yes it does, you just can't let go of the propaganda.
But of course, that would be why hundreds of thousands of people risk shark infest waters to get out of Cuba, lol.
They're all Yankke plants, lol.
Actually, the only ones having a hard time accepting things, is you and the rest of the Usual Suspects.
Ya, that proves me right, thanks.
The data before 1999 isn't available as far as I have looked. Bottom line is still the very basic question, did the lives of the poorest improve over the last 14 years, the vid backs that claim up.
How many are aware of all the **** the US does in the background to **** up the lives of the poorest and then try and blame the Gov. Iran is the classic example today, kicked out 30 years ago and can't let it go. You should be familiar with that 'disease'.
Capital letter now, wow. Could be worse I could blindly support all US policies and become part of the usual pricks.
(in part)
On April 11, 2002, President Chavez was kidnapped at gunpoint and flown to an island prison in the Caribbean Sea. On April 12, Pedro Carmona, a business partner of the US oil companies and president of the nation's Chamber of Commerce, declared himself President of Venezuela – giving a whole new meaning to the term, "corporate takeover."
U.S. Ambassador Charles Shapiro immediately rushed down from his hilltop embassy to have his picture taken grinning with the self-proclaimed "President" and the leaders of the coup d'état.
Bush's White House spokesman admitted that Chavez was, "democratically elected," but, he added, "Legitimacy is something that is conferred not by just the majority of voters." I see.
Greg Palast | Investigative Reporter
Clear case for treason, along with a few of his buddies that would curtail such ****. The US could have done that with Prescott Bush and today the US would be better off for it.
[I have stated he helped the poor- he ran the rule of Law down the sewers, corruption while prevalent before his rise to power was active as hell under him. So no difference there. Oil production dropped and I am sure that inflation rates can be found for the 80's and 90's. But I ain't looking
Chavez's legacy, from The Guardian
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• Unemployment has dropped from 14.5% of the total labour force in 1999 to 7.6% in 2009
• Population has increased from 23,867,000 in 1999 to 29,278,000 in 2011. The annual population growth was 1.5% in 2011 compared with 1.9% in 1999
• GDP per capita has risen from $4,105 to $10,801 in 2011
• As you can see in the graphic chart, Venezuela's inflation has fluctuated since 1999. Inflation now stands at 31.6% compared with 23.6% in 1999
• Venezuela has a complicated history concerning currency exchange rates. Compared with 1999 when the exchange rate was under one bolivar to the US dollar, the latest figures from Reuters place it at 4.3 Bolivars to one dollar
• Poverty has decreased - in 1999, 23.4% of the population were recorded as being in extreme poverty, this fell to 8.5% in 2011 according to official government figures
• Infant mortality is now lower than in 1999 - from a rate of 20 per 1,000 live births then to a rate of 13 per 1,000 live births in 2011
• Violence has been a key concern in Venezuela for some time - figures from the UNODC state that the murder rate has risen since 1999. In 2011 the intentional homicide rate per 100,000 population was 45.1 compared with 25.0 just twelve years earlier
• Oil exports have boomed - Venezuela has one of the top proven oil reserves in the world and in 2011 Opec put the country's net oil export revenues at $60bn. In 1999 it stood at $14.4bn
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• Unemployment has dropped from 14.5% of the total labour force in 1999 to 7.6% in 2009
• Population has increased from 23,867,000 in 1999 to 29,278,000 in 2011. The annual population growth was 1.5% in 2011 compared with 1.9% in 1999
• GDP per capita has risen from $4,105 to $10,801 in 2011
• As you can see in the graphic chart, Venezuela's inflation has fluctuated since 1999. Inflation now stands at 31.6% compared with 23.6% in 1999
• Venezuela has a complicated history concerning currency exchange rates. Compared with 1999 when the exchange rate was under one bolivar to the US dollar, the latest figures from Reuters place it at 4.3 Bolivars to one dollar
• Poverty has decreased - in 1999, 23.4% of the population were recorded as being in extreme poverty, this fell to 8.5% in 2011 according to official government figures
• Infant mortality is now lower than in 1999 - from a rate of 20 per 1,000 live births then to a rate of 13 per 1,000 live births in 2011
• Violence has been a key concern in Venezuela for some time - figures from the UNODC state that the murder rate has risen since 1999. In 2011 the intentional homicide rate per 100,000 population was 45.1 compared with 25.0 just twelve years earlier
• Oil exports have boomed - Venezuela has one of the top proven oil reserves in the world and in 2011 Opec put the country's net oil export revenues at $60bn. In 1999 it stood at $14.4bn
Official Canadian government figures are not to believed...Post #92 said:
But the figures put out by a government known for corruption, abuse of power, suppression of the press, suppression of the opposition, through outright violence, is to be believed.
Seriously, you just can't make up that kind of partisan hypocrisy.
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Venezuela GDP Data & Country Report | Global Finance
Doing Business in Venezuela, RB - World Bank Group
Venezuela crime soars amid declining poverty - Features - Al Jazeera English
With an average of 53 murders per day in 2011, according to the Venezuelan Observatory on Violence, a watch-dog group, the country has a murder rate of about 67 per 100,000 inhabitants. Neighbouring Colombia, in contrast, has a murder rate of 38 per 100,000 while Mexico - where some regions are gripped by deadly drug violence - has a rate of about 15 per 100,000.
1, Who said I was talking to you?
2, Where did I mention the US?
3, Are you really so stupid that you couldn't understand to what post I was replying?
My prediction is, you won't answer any of those questions, but will instead say something stupid, out of being embarrassed by me yet again.
1, Who cares, it is a public forum, you want privacy do it in a PM.
2. You described them perfectly, who would think it was anything but the US?
3. His post has accurate figures that can be backed us, such as the vid posted.
Nothing I could possibly say could come close to matching, or surpassing, your dribble.