Hope it happens here, too.
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Unfortunately, due to that idiot Trudeau, respect for multiculturalism is enshrined in our constitution.
Sometimes I wonder if he set out to destroy the nation, or whether it is simply an inevitable side effect of his egotistical rule.......
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ed-in-britain-pm-cameron-says/article1895974/
Sometimes I wonder if he set out to destroy the nation, or whether it is simply an inevitable side effect of his egotistical rule.......
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ed-in-britain-pm-cameron-says/article1895974/
It only makes sense to require all who move to England to learn English before going there.
Im not pro or anti immigration i just believe we need to regulate and redefine our rules about coming here.
Overall though, the majority of immigrants who come here speak english and want to become canadians even if they all stay in the big cities.
And im glad we dont have a heavy amount of extremists here... Overall id give the boat people a B for trying to become better canadians
Overall though, the majority of immigrants who come here speak english and want to become canadians even if they all stay in the big cities.
And im glad we dont have a heavy amount of extremists here... Overall id give the boat people a B for trying to become better canadians
Canada was multicultural long, long, long before Trudeau. Even up until he 1920s, English and French speakers, local Chinese, Hawaiians, and local indigenous peoples often relied on Chinook Jargon as a common trade language in various parts of BC, and it continued to serve as a trade language for some in Seattle, WA until the 1930s. In the 1800s, at its peak, Chinook Jargon was an important trade language from Southern Alaska and parts of the Yukon to Northern California, and from the Western shores of Vancouver Island to the Rockies and Oregon.
Earlier still in Lower Canada few knew English. And heck, even today, according to StatsCan 2006, an estimated 15% of residents of Nunavut still can function in neither English nor French, while about 57% of Quebecers are not functional in English.
So I challenge you old history buff to point out to me one time in the history of this continent when we did in fact share a common language and culture from coast to coast to coast.
While I don't agree with the Official Languages Act nor aspects of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, for the most part they were a product of certain political realities involving the two most powerful ethnic groups in Canada at the time. But no, Canada was not some shining light of cultural unity until Trudeau came. In fact if anything Canada is much more culturally united today than it was even as recently as in the 19th century. And earlier than that, we were even more multicultural seeing that until the 19th century, even Chinook Jargon was still in its infancy and covered only some regions around Oregon as a common second language, with most of 'Cascadia' drowning in upwards of 30 odd languages and cultures from dissimilar languages families. So we're not even talking about differences like English and French, both European, but more like English and Arabic.
An interesting book on the subject for you historians who believe yourselves experts on Canada's mythical cultural unity of the past should take a look at this book as an interesting start:
An international idiom : a manual of the Oregon trade language, or "Chinook jargon"
This book is a little old (published in 1890, at the height of the language, to be exact), but then again, if we're talking about history, we might as well go to the source.
Notice how the author titles it: An International Idiom,
And subtitles it: A Manual of the Oregon Trade Language, or "Chinook Pidgin".
Don't let the name of a US state fool you; the book makes reference to the whole of 'Cascadia', including the Canadian part. At that time, it was in fact common for Chinook to serve as the common idiom in international families, in the fishing and resource industries, etc. as the normal lingua franca when no other common language was in place. It also had the advantage of a simple grammar and vocabulary and a vocabulary comprising words mostly from the original Chinook language, but also from Salish and other regional languages, along with words from English, Wichi, French, Algonquian languages, and even Hawaiian, thus making easy for all in the region to learn and master for practical communication for business, trade, religious preaching, etc.
So again, you show me one time in history when all of Canada agreed on one common language or culture.
Well then I guess Canada failed from day one. Seeing that we are far more culturally and linguistically united in Canada today than we've ever been before, then I guess you must see Canada moving in the right direction.
Still lots of work to do though, especially in Quebec and Nunavut, but hey, we've we've advanced this far baby.
In some respects, we can say Canada has been in construction since day one. Originally we had no common roots across the Continent. Since English became an official and the main language of the country, percentage-wise it's been growing steady Eddy ever since.
As my post above points out, Canada has is more culturally and linguistically united today than it has ever been n its history. The whole notion of some mythical past when Canada had one common culture is just that: a myth.
Not when ex-Reform Stephen Harper gains a majority in the election,
or so I wish.
My generation does like our conspiracy theories, i.e. 911.
Trudeau was active in Quebec nationalism in his youth and perhaps he realized that such a goal, accomplishing from within the confines of Quebec, may had been impossible.
Instead, he inflitrated the Liberal Party and set out to accomplish a violent break up of Canada. Passing bills and constitutions in Anglo Canada to drive up resentment and sending the Canadian Army, during the October Crisis, to instigate a violent civil war in Quebec.
Accept this conspiracy or not, but nevertheless the past is the past and it seems like Quebec has a good chance of gaining independence, in part due to Trudeau's legacy in the country.
But, but... white people are so superior to everyone else that everyone else should conform to our standards and become civilized just like us. I mean, we have superior weaponry, we have a conservative/reform government and the superior intellect of Steven Harper. I mean, what more do these backwards savages want, eh? Get with the program, you prairie hick.
My favorite food is Sushi. Caribana is a blast! When my family gets together, its like the UN. I'm mixed European/white. I'm related by marriage to Chinese, South Americans, Blacks/Caribbeans. I speak English, French and Spanish. My children are bilingual/trilingual. I think multiculturalism has been an overwhelming success. Its certainly made my life more full and interesting.
Canada has more opportunities for success than the US. I support taking in the best and the brightest.
We could be smarter about it. Professionals don't qualify until they can work in their profession in Canada. I've seen too many engineers driving taxi and doctors working as health care aids.
Canada has more opportunities for success than the US. I support taking in the best and the brightest.
We could be smarter about it. Professionals don't qualify until they can work in their profession in Canada. I've seen too many engineers driving taxi and doctors working as health care aids.
So what exactly is it that you want Cliffy?... How do you propose to achieve this utopia?
Perhaps all you really want is to vent and wax philosophically about what 'ought to be'.
I don't want anything, I am not venting or waxing philosophical. I was just paraphrasing what I hear some on here saying. I'm surprised that some don't understand sarcasm when they see it.
So no little short dark skinned guys and gals running around, working hard speaking in a strange tongue. :cheese:
Confronting bigots who aren't white - Ezra Levant
How long are we to abide this garbage?
I suggest we invite these morons to return to the cesspool they crawled out of.....I damned well refuse to have my society altered to satisfy the "sensibilities" of a cult that follows a war-mongering pedophile.
David Koresh is a superior theologian to Mohammed. At least he didn't take the war to them!
You post an article but fail to read it.
Painting an entire religion on the actions of few tards in winnipeg is like painting all Christians fag haterz because of reverend phelps.
At least you don't hide your bigotry.
The problem with that is the "professional" bodies that control entrance. As an example, my wife is a naturopath trained in a school in Germany that was teaching naturopaths before Canada was even a country yet her credentials are not recognized in B.C. To practice here she has to be certified by the professional organization here that doesn't even recognize some of the procedures she is qualified to perform. The same is true for doctors, dentists, engineers and even mechanics. The only difference is that mechanics are certified by the government not a professional body. My stepson is a certified mechanic in Germany and if he chose to come here his ticket is not valid here even though he trained on Mercedes and BMWs. Another friend is a captain in the German coast guard and has an unlimited ticket but if he wanted to drive a ferry for BC Ferries he would have to write a test here.
Our system is stacked against professionals coming here but willingly takes in those whose only job experience is driving an ox plow.