Hope it happens here, too.

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You post an article but fail to read it.

Painting an entire religion on the actions of few tards in winnipeg is like painting all Christians fag haterz because of reverend phelps.

At least you don't hide your bigotry.

Damn right I am bigoted against Islamist loonies that want sharia law imposed in our public schools.

I actually have standards.

I have no problem with Muslims that are not part of the cult.

I work with a girl whose family fled the fighting in Algeria.....she was raised Muslim, and refers to her co-religionists as "barbarians". She is as Canadian as you can imagine (although very lefty). Her I like.
 

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Damn right I am bigoted against Islamist loonies that want sharia law imposed in our public schools.

I actually have standards.

I have no problem with Muslims that are not part of the cult.

I work with a girl whose family fled the fighting in Algeria.....she was raised Muslim, and refers to her co-religionists as "barbarians". She is as Canadian as you can imagine (although very lefty). Her I like.

Yes, extremism is bad. Thank you captain obvious.

Targeting only muslim extremism, and framing 'white ideals' as the standard is not the solution to bring us a co-operative, multicultural environment. And its abhorrent that this even needs to be identified.

Statistically, Christian extremism does much more harm to multiculturalism. How can you be so dull to miss an elephant to focus on a mouse?

Nevermind the fact that your solution to the problem is to have the Elephant trample the mouse.
 
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I agree that the system which regulates professional workers and accreditation is broken. Ultimately anyone working in Canada as a professional has to meet our standards. Unfortunately, the existing professionals have no motivation to increase their numbers, so the current system is sort of like putting the fox in charge of the henhouse.

A better process.

1) Apply to come to Canada as a professional
2) Application approved -> enter Canada and attend a school.
3) When you get accreditation, you win landed immigrant status but have to go where the Canadian government sends you for a period of time (3-5 years). If you fail, you go back to country of origin.
4) When you've done you time, you get Canadian citizenship and the right to live/work anywhere in Canada you want.

This would solve two problems.

1) Immigrants getting Canadian accreditation
2) Shortages of professionals in small communities and remote locations
 

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We could be smarter about it. Professionals don't qualify until they can work in their profession in Canada. I've seen too many engineers driving taxi and doctors working as health care aids.

As long as an engineer can prove they are qualified to the same standards as in Canada, they can easily work here.
 

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They should have to prove they are qualified first, before they get citizenship. If they fail to prove, send them back to country of origin. As it is right now, qualifying in country of origin gets them into Canada, where they may or may not qualify here. Then we end up with another professional driving a taxi
 

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Yes, extremism is bad. Thank you captain obvious.

Targeting only muslim extremism, and framing 'white ideals' as the standard is not the solution to bring us a co-operative, multicultural environment. And its abhorrent that this even needs to be identified.

Statistically, Christian extremism does much more harm to multiculturalism. How can you be so dull to miss an elephant to focus on a mouse?

Nevermind the fact that your solution to the problem is to have the Elephant trample the mouse.

Right.

Therein lies the problem.

It was white Christian philosophy, in fact a bunch of old priviledged white guys, that built the society that has made you rich and free.

I damned well don't WANT a co-operative, multicultural society, I see no reason to poison the well of liberty, and destroy the great culture we have built, because of weak-kneed, wishy-washy relativist belief in the equality of all cultures.

Horse****.

When was the last time a Christian fundamentalist demanded a school expunge its music class? OR, for that matter, blew himself up in a public square? Or a mosque? Doesn't happen.

You see, Christianity is a religion of choice, with punishment and reward in the next life, a religion that values the individual.......a religion of tolerance.

Islam MEANS "submission", and the medieval violence of its laws and philosophy is meant to be imposed in this very earthly realm........the constriction of freedom, the complete focus of Islam on the will of God, has caused the regression of the religion from what it was 90 years ago.

I live in a free society based on philosophy that sprand from Jewish and Christian roots........and if you want to enjoy the benefits of that society, I suggest you adapt to its realities, or get the hell out of my country.
 

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Right.

Therein lies the problem.

It was white Christian philosophy, in fact a bunch of old priviledged white guys, that built the society that has made you rich and free.

I damned well don't WANT a co-operative, multicultural society, I see no reason to poison the well of liberty, and destroy the great culture we have built, because of weak-kneed, wishy-washy relativist belief in the equality of all cultures.

Horse****.

When was the last time a Christian fundamentalist demanded a school expunge its music class? OR, for that matter, blew himself up in a public square? Or a mosque? Doesn't happen.

You see, Christianity is a religion of choice, with punishment and reward in the next life, a religion that values the individual.......a religion of tolerance.

Islam MEANS "submission", and the medieval violence of its laws and philosophy is meant to be imposed in this very earthly realm........the constriction of freedom, the complete focus of Islam on the will of God, has caused the regression of the religion from what it was 90 years ago.

I live in a free society based on philosophy that sprand from Jewish and Christian roots........and if you want to enjoy the benefits of that society, I suggest you adapt to its realities, or get the hell out of my country.


Maybe you misunderstood Chester... His belief is that Canadians should bend over backwards to sell out their heritage (the ones that actually actually built our communities and societies) in order to accommodate multi-cultural lobby groups that intend to exploit this weakness via transforming their adopted nation into the hell hole that they ran from.

It's all in the name of tolerance and harmony.
 

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It was white Christian philosophy, in fact a bunch of old priviledged white guys, that built the society that has made you rich and free.

This is full of logical holes.

Rich and free by what standard?
How many are rich and free?
At what cost?

Also, there is a huge wealth margin now that keeps rising - hardly what I would qualify as making everyone rich and free.

I damned well don't WANT a co-operative, multicultural society, I see no reason to poison the well of liberty, and destroy the great culture we have built, because of weak-kneed, wishy-washy relativist belief in the equality of all cultures.
Do you even understand what liberty is?


Because apparently the only liberty that is important is your liberty. And I'm pretty sure that elitism isn't part of the Christian philosophy of liberty, so you better get back to the drawing board or re-evaluate your ethical belief system.


Maybe you misunderstood Chester... His belief is that Canadians should bend over backwards to sell out their heritage (the ones that actually actually built our communities and societies) in order to accommodate multi-cultural lobby groups that intend to exploit this weakness via transforming their adopted nation into the hell hole that they ran from.

It's all in the name of tolerance and harmony.

Stop spinning if you want to have a real discussion.
 

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Damn right I am bigoted against Islamist loonies that want sharia law imposed in our public schools.

I actually have standards.

I have no problem with Muslims that are not part of the cult.

I work with a girl whose family fled the fighting in Algeria.....she was raised Muslim, and refers to her co-religionists as "barbarians". She is as Canadian as you can imagine (although very lefty). Her I like.

Your reference to Mohamed suggests you dislike all Muslims.

I have very good friends who are Muslims, mostly right wingers, they aren't blowing themselves up yet have daily prayers.

Twisting a religion isn't hard, it's been done everywhere.

Maybe you misunderstood Chester... His belief is that Canadians should bend over backwards to sell out their heritage (the ones that actually actually built our communities and societies) in order to accommodate multi-cultural lobby groups that intend to exploit this weakness via transforming their adopted nation into the hell hole that they ran from.

It's all in the name of tolerance and harmony.

Turn it into a hole they came from? You mean like what Muslims are doing in Egypt and Tunisia? Fighting for freedom and democracy from dictators that we in the West have been proping up for years.

Something for you two bigots to consume.

At least I was right, some people don't mind immigration as long as they "look" Canadian and have similar religions.
 

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I think to some immigrants are okay as long as they "look" Canadian and have similar cultures and religions.
Not sure if your being sarcastic but immigrants should accept Canadian culture as their own if they choose to live here instead of trying to force their own beliefs upon Canadians. An example would be this:
Vancouver hospice put on hold over 'cultural sensitivity' - The Globe and Mail

Once immigrants are allowed to dictate what's built etc it becomes a slippery slope..
 

Avro

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Not sure if your being sarcastic but immigrants should accept Canadian culture as their own if they choose to live here instead of trying to force their own beliefs upon Canadians. An example would be this:
Vancouver hospice put on hold over 'cultural sensitivity' - The Globe and Mail

Once immigrants are allowed to dictate what's built etc it becomes a slippery slope..

Immigrants should be allowed have their own culture and accept ours. Not sure why I would tell an immigrant they can't celebrate Ramadan because it isn't Canadian.
 

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What a joke. Canada was built on immigration. There are very few "Canadians" that don't trace their origins back to immigrants. Our Country has always been one that peoples could come to, be welcomed, and be able to continue to practice their individual and group traditions. Unlike another Country that advertised itself as a "melting pot", Canada has embraced differences and integrated them into the Canadian mosaic.
 

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Immigrants should be allowed have their own culture and accept ours. Not sure why I would tell an immigrant they can't celebrate Ramadan because it isn't Canadian.
Sure they can have their own culture and at the same time they should be able to accept Canadian culture as their own. But when immigrants start dictating what can and can't be built such as the building of the Vancouver hospice being put on hold because of cultural sensitivity where does it stop?
 

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Sure they can have their own culture and at the same time they should be able to accept Canadian culture as their own. But when immigrants start dictating what can and can't be built such as the building of the Vancouver hospice being put on hold because of cultural sensitivity where does it stop?

Agreed, just like preventing a Muslim community center being located a few blocks from ground zero.
 

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What a joke. Canada was built on immigration. There are very few "Canadians" that don't trace their origins back to immigrants.

Wrong. There are NO Canadians who can say they don't trace their origins back to immigrants.

Agreed, just like preventing a Muslim community center being located a few blocks from ground zero.
Come off it. Building a muslim community centre near Ground Zero was completely insensitive to the families of those who were murdered by radical muslim extremists. You can't compare the two.
 

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Come off it. Building a muslim community centre near Ground Zero was completely insensitive to the families of those who were murdered by radical muslim extremists. You can't compare the two.

No it wasn't.

Was it all Muslims who flew planes into the towers?

By that logic I don't want any churches built near schools because all priests are pediphiles.
 

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Agreed, just like preventing a Muslim community center being located a few blocks from ground zero.

In principle....yes.

Although the Mosque building is a provocation, and is intended to be an insult.

Were I running the City of New York, I'd be offering neighbouring land to Hindu temples, the raunchiest strip clubs available, and a lesbian adult bookstore. Two can play at THAT game....

See how tolerant these Muslim really are.........
 

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Then all Muslims would be dead.

I don't want churches near any children beacuse all priests are pediphiles.

In principle....yes.

Although the Mosque building is a provocation, and is intended to be an insult.

Were I running the City of New York, I'd be offering neighbouring land to Hindu temples, the raunchiest strip clubs available, and a lesbian adult bookstore. Two can play at THAT game....

See how tolerant these Muslim really are.........

You can prove it was an insult?

Or is this just an opinion.

Does it even matter?
 
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