Hope it happens here, too.

Avro

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I'm not from Ontario comrade Avro... I don't think that the province would be too keen on me voting in your election.

(Although it's probably based on your racist tendencies).

Oh brother! Did I say you could vote in Ontario old boy?

Nope.

Yeah, it is my racist tendencies because we all now that voting conservative means you are a racist.
 

captain morgan

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Gerry, no need to split hairs on this. I am not angling to get in a debate on the merits of individual rights. I gave you some examples, but in the end, the 'basic' list would be akin to the rights outlined in something in the American bill of rights/cpnstitution or the British North American Act.

The right to be white and vaguely Christian is a given. All others are suspect.



Don't forget the rights of your Asian daughters should supercede the immigration rights of Europeans, Americans or Australians.
 

captain morgan

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Yup, bigot definatley fits, with a definite leaning towards racist.


You and Avro are peas in a pod, aren't you... Nothing to offer but retarded commentary

So how about it, got a response to the basic list of rights or are you like your buddy and like to spout rhetoric that has no substance.

As far as the shot against Tenpenny goes, they opened that door wide when he shot-down JLM's opinion. If he doesn't like it, then he ought to reconsider taking runs at others.
 

gerryh

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You and Avro are peas in a pod, aren't you... Nothing to offer but retarded commentary

So how about it, got a response to the basic list of rights or are you like your buddy and like to spout rhetoric that has no substance.

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I've told you to be specific there buba. All you have done is the "etc etc" trick. Again, what rights do you want to restrict? Obviously you want to restrict a Canadian citizen, who is an immigrant, the right to voice their objection to anything YOU think they shouldn't object to.
 

captain morgan

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I've told you to be specific there buba.


Yeah, whatever.... You're just trolling to get in a ridiculous debate about the individual merits of the rights as opposed to the basic principle that I outlined.

You know the point I am making and if you don't I am not interested in wasting my time playing a stupid game.


All you have done is the "etc etc" trick. Again, what rights do you want to restrict? Obviously you want to restrict a Canadian citizen, who is an immigrant, the right to voice their objection to anything YOU think they shouldn't object to.

OK gerry... Let's make everything a right. There is absolutely nothing that won't qualify.


I didn't want to leave them out of the equation. Afterall, you recognized the 'obvious' rights of white, quasi Christians.
 

gerryh

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obviously the conversation is just getting a touch too difficult for bubba.
 

TenPenny

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I didn't want to leave them out of the equation. Afterall, you recognized the 'obvious' rights of white, quasi Christians.

Well, there you go, you have grasped the issue perfectly. Your astute abilities shine through.

My daughters are citizens, and have every right that any other citizen has. (oddly enough, this is being changed by our present government, who are creating two different classes of citizens). And I don't begrudge anyone else the right to immigrate here and become a citizen, as long as they do not do so under false pretences.

I understand that many other posters on here don't feel that way, and you're certainly entitled to your opinion.
 

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By and large as a country we have been fairly lucky, extremism has not found too much fertile
ground in this country. One of the reasons is that each group has its own traditions and at the
same time they have linked a common thread of being Canadian. I have neighbours who came
here from Taiwan and they couldn't wait to be Canadian. They have gone to English as a second
language schools and learned all they can. They ask about why our customers came to be that
way and I think its great as they have multicultural gatherings and sometimes we get invited to try
all the different foods.
I think there are a lot of people who made this there home, to give their kids a better life and they are
trying not to get caught up in the events back home. On the other hand I get ticked when I see all
those people out on the streets demonstrating, protesting what is happening in their former home
country. These are the people who are supposed to be new Canadians acting like they are still part
of some other country with their loyalties. I am Canadian, my ancestors came from Scotland,
and you don't see me out on the street demonstrating about issues pertaining to Scotland.
There are a lot of things about multiculturalism that I like and some I really don't like, but I think it has
its place as part of the history of this country. We have had a lot of different cultures making their
mark on the history of Canada, for nearly two hundred years now. Over a century ago, Indo Canadians.,
Chinese, Japanese, Italians, Poles, Germans, French English Russians Ukrainians those from
the Middle East, Africans and more have joined us and they all learn to communicate or find someone
to help them. If you think about it some dwell on insecurities and others see the changing landscape
through the eyes of reality. Every group that comes here has it own little community for a generation or
two and then they melt into the Human landscape like all the groups before.
The early immigrants and the grand children and great grand children view the Canadian life experience
quite differently.
 

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One can't compare the hospice issue in Vancouver with the mosque issue in New York, two different circumstances. Immigrants who become Canadian citizens don't have the right to force their religious beliefs or cultures upon the rest of Canadians.
 

TenPenny

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You'll have to explain this... I am not familiar

Changes to the Citizenship Act recently made by Parliament will take effect on 17 April 2009, with significant impacts on who can inherit Canadian citizenship from their parent. The changes introduce a new risk that children of Canadian citizens will be stateless.
The changes effectively create two classes of citizenship, with a lower class that has no right to pass on their Canadian citizenship to their children (natural born or adopted).
1st class citizens
Canadian citizens who are:
  • born in Canada, or
  • naturalized citizens (after immigrating to Canada)1
will continue to have the right to pass on their citizenship to their children (i.e. their child will be a Canadian citizen even if born outside Canada).
2nd class citizens
Canadian citizens who are:
  • born abroad to a Canadian citizen parent,2 or
  • foreign-born adopted children of Canadian citizens who were granted citizenship under the new direct grant provisions for adopted children (introduced in 2007)
will not have the right to pass on their citizenship to their children (i.e. their child will not be a Canadian citizen if born outside Canada, nor will their foreign adopted child be entitled to direct grant citizenship).

One can't compare the hospice issue in Vancouver with the mosque issue in New York, two different circumstances. Immigrants who become Canadian citizens don't have the right to force their religious beliefs or cultures upon the rest of Canadians.

Umm, if immigrants become Canadian Citizens, shouldn't they have the same rights as other citizens?