Hope it happens here, too.

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Avro is wanting to bring back the good ole days when he spent more time in time outs than he did posting.
 

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I never said Egypt was a Utopia.


Well then, why is there a greater # of people from Egypt and Tunisia looking to immigrate to Canada than there are Canadians looking to immigrate to Egypt Tunisia?

Why is that Avro?


I didn't call you a racist I called you a bigot...their is a difference.


Ohhhh, I see.. You meant bigot as a compliment then, in a non-racial way, right?
 

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Well then, why is there a greater # of people from Egypt and Tunisia looking to immigrate to Canada than there are Canadians looking to immigrate to Egypt Tunisia?

Why is that Avro?





Ohhhh, I see.. You meant bigot as a compliment then, in a non-racial way, right?

Why wouldn't someone from an repressive country not want to come here?

Do you even know what bigot means?
 

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Repressive, but in no way a hell hole.

I see the light now.

I almost forgot to mention... In the context of this discussion, bigot and racist are essentially interchangeable. But if it makes you feel better, I will change my earlier statement regarding "the race card" to "the bigot card"

Better?
 

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Repressive, but in no way a hell hole.

I see the light now.

I almost forgot to mention... In the context of this discussion, bigot and racist are essentially interchangeable. But if it makes you feel better, I will change my earlier statement regarding "the race card" to "the bigot card"

Better?

The context has nothing to with race....at all.

So now you are trying to tell me Egypt is a wonderful place?

That's funny.
 

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That is how it has always BEEN DUMMY. What you are suggesting is the same thing. excersising the right to put the hospice up where you want it at the expense of anothers right not to want it there. See how rights work?

What an interesting angle. So, it's always BEEN that way, therefore it's OK for a cultural sensitivity to trump someone else's rights, but the same situation is unacceptable if it's the rights of an 'immigrant'.

Great, it's all crystal clear now.
 

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Anyone else see a parallel between this and the ground zero mosque argument....?
Except for the debaters switching sides...;-)


Really? and how is that? I know on the ground zero mosque debate I had stated that the opponents had the right to object but as long as the Mosque crossed all their "T"s and dotted their "i"s with permits ect they had the right to build where they wanted.

Same apply's here.
 

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What an interesting angle. So, it's always BEEN that way, therefore it's OK for a cultural sensitivity to trump someone else's rights, but the same situation is unacceptable if it's the rights of an 'immigrant'.

Great, it's all crystal clear now.


ROFLMAO, call it whatever you want. The society can ignore or not the concerns of the local community. The local community members have every right to voice their concerns about a hospice in their midst.
 

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Is teh local community comprised entirely of people with "culturally sensitive" issues?. Did they take a vote on it? How about the rights of the occupants of the hospice, let alone the owner of the land?

What about their rights?


Oh, I guess you have some inside information? The Hospice has been permanently canned I gather? As I understood, it has been just put on hold and will not be brought to the UBC governors just yet.
 

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Oh, I guess you have some inside information?

No more info than you... But that hasn't stopped you either, has it?


The Hospice has been permanently canned I gather? As I understood, it has been just put on hold and will not be brought to the UBC governors just yet.


Permanent or temporary isn't the issue, is it now? It's about pitting the rights of one group against another.

Okay bigot.

Alright leftard
 

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No more info than you... But that hasn't stopped you either, has it?





Permanent or temporary isn't the issue, is it now? It's about pitting the rights of one group against another.


Stopped me from doing what? I'm not the one crying foul. That would be you. The process isn't over yet.

As for your last statement, there have always been times where the "rights" of one group are pitted against another. And those groups have not necessarily been immigrant vs non. It's a democracy. If you don't like the way our system works, you could always move to a Country that doesn't afford those "rights".
 

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Stopped me from doing what?


From wading in on the issue

I'm not the one crying foul. That would be you. The process isn't over yet.


Should have the process ever begun? The sheer fact that it has impacted the project, based on a "cultural sensitivity", highlights the notion that the rights of one cultural group trump another.

That is a pretty significant issue.


As for your last statement, there have always been times where the "rights" of one group are pitted against another. And those groups have not necessarily been immigrant vs non. It's a democracy. If you don't like the way our system works, you could always move to a Country that doesn't afford those "rights".

Sure, the rights of individuals have been pitted against each other ever since the concept of rights came into the picture. What is particularly disturbing is that the current trend sees a cultural demographic being elevated at the expense of another cultural demographic... It's no longer individuals as much as it is philosophies being measured against one another.

Voting conservative in the coming election in Ontario.

Nice try though bigot.

I'm not from Ontario comrade Avro... I don't think that the province would be too keen on me voting in your election.

(Although it's probably based on your racist tendencies).
 

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Should have the process ever begun? The sheer fact that it has impacted the project, based on a "cultural sensitivity", highlights the notion that the rights of one cultural group trump another.

Actually, it highlights the exact opposite. If the rights of one group trumped another, there would be no opportunity to raise an objection.
 

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I can appreciate your point. In large part, one of the problems that I see as central to this entire issue relates to the premise that damn near everything qualifies as a "right". It's almost to the point that we'd be better-off defining what isn't a right in society as opposed to saying what is.
 

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I can appreciate your point. In large part, one of the problems that I see as central to this entire issue relates to the premise that damn near everything qualifies as a "right". It's almost to the point that we'd be better-off defining what isn't a right in society as opposed to saying what is.


Ok, so what "rights" do you want to restrict? Please be specific.