So WHY are you not being controlled????????????????????????
You spew lies like a rabid dog spews foam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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So WHY are you not being controlled????????????????????????
You spew lies like a rabid dog spews foam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MOST NEW ZEALAND GUN OWNERS SO FAR DECLINE TO HAND IN ANYTHING
12/13/19 2:15 AM | by Chris Eger
With only a week before time is up to sell the government their newly-outlawed guns, many in New Zealand haven’t.
The Pacific country has a nationwide ban on several types of common firearms with a deadline of Dec. 20. Police Minister Stuart Nash earlier this year had estimated that as many as 300,000 guns of various manufacture– out of the 1.5 million in circulation– were targeted by the move. However, the latest figures from government sources are that only about 36,000 guns have been sold at police-arranged events by Nov. 11, at a cost of NZ$70 million ($45 million) in public funds.
“The clock is ticking on the last opportunity to receive payment for prohibited firearms and parts, or to hand over unwanted or unlawful guns without fear of prosecution under the amnesty,” said Nash in a statement. “If people don’t hand in the other prohibited firearms and parts by 20 Dec. they will get no money and will face up to five years in prison and the loss of their firearms license.”
While hundreds of gun owners have applied for special permits to keep their banned firearms, and others have modified their collection to meet new mandates, pundits feel that many are simply staying away.
“[Nash] has failed to engage with the firearms community and they’re responding by not engaging with the buyback,” said Brett Hudson with the New Zealand National Party, a group that holds just under half of the seats in the country’s House of Representatives. Worse Hudson pointed out that criminals aren’t turning in their guns either.
“Gangs are not complying with the buyback and we are seeing no action from the Government to tackle the problems of illegal firearm use, with the focus seemingly on the law-abiding firearms community,” said Hudson.
Compounding the issue, gun owner groups argue the government is not offering any compensation for accessories, ammunition, and safes that are now redundant. Further, unease by those who have registered to sell their firearms to the government was increased after the likelihood that their personal information may have been compromised last week in a data breach.
WIDE NET
Besides all centerfire semi-auto rifles, the prohibition covers even lever-action, bolt-action, and pump-action rifles if they have a capacity of more than 10 cartridges– regardless if they are chambered in centerfire or rimfire calibers.
When it comes to shotguns, pumps, and semi-autos capable of holding more than five shells are now banned. A 15-page price list covering about 300 guns has been released by police which sets a base value by model, of which the government may offer between 25 and 95 percent, depending on the gun’s condition.
For example, a Browning BAR Mk. II, a semi-auto hunting rifle typically with a four-round magazine, has a base price of NZ$1500 ($985) on the list, which would mean the owner of the classic game-getter could get as little as NZ$375 ($246) for the gun– or risk a hefty prison sentence should they decide not to hand it in.
Several vintage rifles from yesteryear — some out of production for nearly a century– are on the list including the Remington Model 8, Winchester 1907, the M1 Garand, and various examples of the French MAS series. Rare Heckler & Koch wooden-stocked sporting rifles, like the HK 630 and HK 770, have likewise been targeted for destruction.
Have a Mossberg 500 with a 6-shell tube? It’s on the list alongside the Beretta A300 and Benelli SuperNova.
Meanwhile, anti-gun politicians on this side of the Pacific are enamored with the disarming of Kiwi gun collectors. Earlier this year, U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calf, applauded New Zealand lawmakers on “a job well done,” following the statement up with “the U.S. should follow suit.”
12/13/19 2:15 AM | by Chris Eger
With only a week before time is up to sell the government their newly-outlawed guns, many in New Zealand haven’t.
The Pacific country has a nationwide ban on several types of common firearms with a deadline of Dec. 20. Police Minister Stuart Nash earlier this year had estimated that as many as 300,000 guns of various manufacture– out of the 1.5 million in circulation– were targeted by the move. However, the latest figures from government sources are that only about 36,000 guns have been sold at police-arranged events by Nov. 11, at a cost of NZ$70 million ($45 million) in public funds.
“The clock is ticking on the last opportunity to receive payment for prohibited firearms and parts, or to hand over unwanted or unlawful guns without fear of prosecution under the amnesty,” said Nash in a statement. “If people don’t hand in the other prohibited firearms and parts by 20 Dec. they will get no money and will face up to five years in prison and the loss of their firearms license.”
While hundreds of gun owners have applied for special permits to keep their banned firearms, and others have modified their collection to meet new mandates, pundits feel that many are simply staying away.
“[Nash] has failed to engage with the firearms community and they’re responding by not engaging with the buyback,” said Brett Hudson with the New Zealand National Party, a group that holds just under half of the seats in the country’s House of Representatives. Worse Hudson pointed out that criminals aren’t turning in their guns either.
“Gangs are not complying with the buyback and we are seeing no action from the Government to tackle the problems of illegal firearm use, with the focus seemingly on the law-abiding firearms community,” said Hudson.
Compounding the issue, gun owner groups argue the government is not offering any compensation for accessories, ammunition, and safes that are now redundant. Further, unease by those who have registered to sell their firearms to the government was increased after the likelihood that their personal information may have been compromised last week in a data breach.
WIDE NET
Besides all centerfire semi-auto rifles, the prohibition covers even lever-action, bolt-action, and pump-action rifles if they have a capacity of more than 10 cartridges– regardless if they are chambered in centerfire or rimfire calibers.
When it comes to shotguns, pumps, and semi-autos capable of holding more than five shells are now banned. A 15-page price list covering about 300 guns has been released by police which sets a base value by model, of which the government may offer between 25 and 95 percent, depending on the gun’s condition.
For example, a Browning BAR Mk. II, a semi-auto hunting rifle typically with a four-round magazine, has a base price of NZ$1500 ($985) on the list, which would mean the owner of the classic game-getter could get as little as NZ$375 ($246) for the gun– or risk a hefty prison sentence should they decide not to hand it in.
Several vintage rifles from yesteryear — some out of production for nearly a century– are on the list including the Remington Model 8, Winchester 1907, the M1 Garand, and various examples of the French MAS series. Rare Heckler & Koch wooden-stocked sporting rifles, like the HK 630 and HK 770, have likewise been targeted for destruction.
Have a Mossberg 500 with a 6-shell tube? It’s on the list alongside the Beretta A300 and Benelli SuperNova.
Meanwhile, anti-gun politicians on this side of the Pacific are enamored with the disarming of Kiwi gun collectors. Earlier this year, U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calf, applauded New Zealand lawmakers on “a job well done,” following the statement up with “the U.S. should follow suit.”
So - New Zealand LIE-beral law makers are a successful......................................
as their North American counterparts when it comes to logical planning ..........................
and sensible implementation of policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are so full of shit!
Even in 2002 it was higher than gun deaths
https://www.researchgate.net/figure...nada-among-adults-20-64-years-of_fig1_8880853
Overall, there were 660 homicides in Canada last year, an increase of 48 from 2016. The homicide rate rose 7 percent to 1.8 victims per 100,000 people, the highest since 2009.
source:
https://time.com/5461950/canada-homicide-rate-2017-climbs/
You are so full of shit!
Even in 2002 it was higher than gun deaths
https://www.researchgate.net/figure...nada-among-adults-20-64-years-of_fig1_8880853
Overall, there were 660 homicides in Canada last year, an increase of 48 from 2016. The homicide rate rose 7 percent to 1.8 victims per 100,000 people, the highest since 2009.
source:
https://time.com/5461950/canada-homicide-rate-2017-climbs/
IT IS AMAZING isnt it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is almost as if hemerHOID WANTS to be mocked and ridiculed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And exposed as a fake and a fraud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HemerHOID is some sort of political Masochist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh?????????????????????
Do you think there is some connection between being fat............................
and being an arrogant LIE-beral propagandist??????????????????
TYPICAL LIE-beral IDIOCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We dont sue the car maker if some drunk runs us over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This lawsuit against Smith and Wesson is just..................
MORE LIE-beral MAKE WORK......................
for stinking lawyers who are to lazy to chase ambulances!!!!!!
The chain of responsibility for the Danforth shooting .............
runs STRAIGHT TO THE LIE-beral party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
First - it was LIE-berals - with their poisonous immigrant policy that focuses on selecting immigrants ..........................
WHO CANNOT INTEGRATE smoothly and easily and thus they will more readily sell their votes...........................
to LIE-berals in exchange for GOVT AID to survive in Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Secondly it is LIE-berals who have GUTTED Our legal system............................
making it much harder to either keep criminals in jail - or deport them as we consider best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thirdly it is LIE-berals who have NEGLECTED our border crossings and entry points.............................
so that drug and gun smugglers have a MUCH EASIER TIME operating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And thus it was easier for the Danforth shooter to arm himself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fourth it is LIE-berals who are rationing health care so that crazy people cannot get treatment and thus the Danforth shooter went on
his rampage UNTREATED AND UN-MEDICATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fifth it is LIE-berals who ENCOURAGE the crazies by referring to all ordinary Cdns as "systemic racists".............................
and as "Islamphobes" - thus giving the Danforth shooter a focus for his insane rage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is LIE-berals who should be SUED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And sued NOT JUST for their chaotic legal system..............................
but sued for their INSANE DEFICITS AS WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Before the election - Our idiot Boy told us we would have a $20 billion dollar deficit...............................
but things are going so smoothly in LIE-beral land that the deficit has jumped from $20 billion to over $26 billion............................
and LIE-berals HAVE NOT EVEN BEGUN to implement ANY of their costly election promises!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the LIE-beral deficit can grow that rapidly...................................
then WE SHOULD FEAR how rapidly the LIE-beral carbon tax SCAM......................................
will also be growing in the months ahead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On FB this morning a buddy posted a new article I believe was from England. Seems the smart people over there put out a box for criminals to hand in this illegal knives but had to give up the plan because criminals kept steeling the knives that were deposited.
I suppose you might see a similar result if a box was placed somewhere for illegal guns to be deposited.
FCUK!