Gun Control is Completely Useless.

JLM

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Three times in one post.....so childish!

This guy has proven to me several times in the past 24 hours that he is in favour of hanging undiplomatic labels on people, if he keeps it up I'm going to relegate him to the same sandbox as Putz!
 

Cliffy

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Not really.
Civilized humans have taken themselves out of nature and created a virtual reality completely devoid of nature. Those who live in nature, are an intrinsic part of it are looked down up as 'primitive". The artificial reality of cities disconnects us from our roots and causes us to objectify nature as a commodity to be exploited. Civilization has put a values on those commodities but devalues our life support system. This will not end well as we heap our garbage onto the land, air and water.
 

DaSleeper

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And this is what your wise shawman promotes?

 

Hoid

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I think wild animals tend to kill for survival. Even when they are said to kill for fun - which some appear to do at times - it is more of a built-in behavior that evolution has used to sharpen their actual hunting and fighting skills. I don't believe they can be said to decide to kill something. I don't think they understand the moral or ethical questions, or if they do they are by and large too moral to commit a wrong for any reason but life itself.

Men on the other hand are said to have eaten from the tree, understand their own mortality, and are believed to live according to a set of social customs.

Bears killing bears and men killing men are not very comparable.

Although you might be surprised how much a bear looks like a man when you take the skin off of it.
 

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Civilized humans have taken themselves out of nature and created a virtual reality completely devoid of nature. Those who live in nature, are an intrinsic part of it are looked down up as 'primitive". The artificial reality of cities disconnects us from our roots and causes us to objectify nature as a commodity to be exploited. Civilization has put a values on those commodities but devalues our life support system. This will not end well as we heap our garbage onto the land, air and water.
Better you stay away from the coffee shop , you wouldn’t want to be infected with that artificial reality .
 

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You'd better be Buffalo Fecking Bill 'cause if you don't manage to pierce the bear's very thick skull with your pistol on the first shot, you will piss it off and the only part of you remaining will be your NRA membership card.
Um, no NRA card here. Nice try though.

Apparently, you haven't tried it, yet. Do you know of any living people who have?
Duhhhhh, you don't hunt bear with a handgun. Let's try this one more time. You're out hunting for deer, moose, whatever. You have your rifle slung over your shoulder as you trek to your hunting ground. On the way you catch a bear off-guard (or he catches you off-guard) and startle it causing to rush you. At that close range, you really haven't got time to unsling your rifle, level it, slide the bolt home, aim it and get a shot off. Unless you're one of those morons who walks around everywhere with a loaded rifle in their hands. Hence the handgun, it's quicker and easier to pull it out and start shooting, and the bear's thick skull is why one carries a .45 semi-auto and not some cruddy little .22 popgun.
Fortunately I never had to deal with that situation. I can also tell you for a fact that I'm far from the only person in Canada who has been issued a permit to carry for working in remote bear country. You know, for those times when you don't HAVE a rifle on you.
 

Hoid

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Um, no NRA card here. Nice try though.

Duhhhhh, you don't hunt bear with a handgun. Let's try this one more time. You're out hunting for deer, moose, whatever. You have your rifle slung over your shoulder as you trek to your hunting ground. On the way you catch a bear off-guard (or he catches you off-guard) and startle it causing to rush you. At that close range, you really haven't got time to unsling your rifle, level it, slide the bolt home, aim it and get a shot off. Unless you're one of those morons who walks around everywhere with a loaded rifle in their hands. Hence the handgun, it's quicker and easier to pull it out and start shooting, and the bear's thick skull is why one carries a .45 semi-auto and not some cruddy little .22 popgun.
Fortunately I never had to deal with that situation. I can also tell you for a fact that I'm far from the only person in Canada who has been issued a permit to carry for working in remote bear country. You know, for those times when you don't HAVE a rifle on you.
You're misinformed if you believe a hand gun is any match for a shot gun at any range but especially at short range
 

JamesBondo

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jim, do they still issue in bear country? that seems too easy for people in the rockies. I'd have thought that there would be alot more permits if that is all that is needed.

the last i checked, it looked like you had to be a bush pilot or own a registered trapline.
 

JLM

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Better you stay away from the coffee shop , you wouldn’t want to be infected with that artificial reality .

While I agree with your post, I also recognize some sensible points Cliffy made in his. A lot of people under rate Cliffy.
 

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1.15 Million Americans Have Been Killed by Guns Since John Lennon's Death



https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...led-by-guns-since-john-lennons-death-20151208

Wrong.

Currently, gun deaths are running at about 33,000 per year, of which 2/3 are suicides. That is people killing themselves, not preventable in any way by gun control.

A little over 1,000 people a year are killed in justified police shootings.

Civilians kill another 400 at least in justifiable self defense.

Firearms are used for self defense at least 338,000 times per year, according to the rabidly anti-gin Violence Policy Center, and as many as 2.5 million times, according to Kleck.

There are 300 million guns in the USA, and seizing any significant number of those would touch off a civil war, as it should. The constitution is clear, as is the duty of the citizen when the state uses force to destroy constitutional rights. Talk about gun violence!!

The murder rate in the USA is moderate.........20% less than the world average.

This is typically BS lefty anti-freedom propaganda.

It lies by omission, and presents only one side of the debate, with no reference to any rational solutions.
 

JamesBondo

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The fact that they would count the deaths of violent criminals that were shot by a police officer in the line of duty is absolutely disgusting.
 

Hoid

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Firearms are used for self defense at least 338,000 times per year, according to the rabidly anti-gin Violence Policy Center, and as many as 2.5 million times, according to Kleck.

How many times are they used to commit a crime?