Gun Control is Completely Useless.

taxslave

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Interesting facts;
Canada has risen to 7th place in the world for per capita gun ownership, with almost over 12.7 million (legal) guns in the country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country
Canada is at 152nd place for murder rate (out of 230)........with a murder rate of 1.8 per 100,000.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
That means only 6 countries have a greater number of guns per capita, yet 151 countries have a worse murder rate.
Which indicates there is little or no correlation between gun ownership and murder rates.
I'm willing to bet that there is a direct relationship between illegal guns and the murder rate. Any takers?
 

Serryah

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Interesting facts;



Canada has risen to 7th place in the world for per capita gun ownership, with almost over 12.7 million (legal) guns in the country.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country


Canada is at 152nd place for murder rate (out of 230)........with a murder rate of 1.8 per 100,000.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate


That means only 6 countries have a greater number of guns per capita, yet 151 countries have a worse murder rate.


Which indicates there is little or no correlation between gun ownership and murder rates.


IMO, I honestly think it has more to do with the views on guns and 'protection' and 'second amendments' than a lot of other reasons.
 

Colpy

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IMO, I honestly think it has more to do with the views on guns and 'protection' and 'second amendments' than a lot of other reasons.


The United States has a Second Amendment and concealed carry.


The USA is in first place in the world for per capita gun ownership, with 393 million (legal) guns in the country.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estima...ita_by_country


The United States is in 89th place for murder rate (out of 230)........with a murder rate of 5.3 per 100,000.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate


That means no countries have a greater number of guns per capita than the USA (it is not even remotely close), yet 88 countries have a worse murder rate.


Which indicates there is little or no correlation between gun ownership and murder rates.


The Czech Republic does not have a Second Amendment, but the do allow reasonably easy access to guns, and they DO allow concealed carry of handguns.


The Czech Republic is in 64th place in the world for per capita gun ownership, with 1.3 million (legal) guns in the country.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estima...ita_by_country


The Czech Republic is in 205th place for murder rate (out of 230)........with a murder rate of 0.6 per 100,000.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate


That means 63 countries have a greater number of guns per capita than the Czech Republic, yet 204 countries have a worse murder rate.


Which indicates there is little or no correlation between gun ownership and murder rates.
 
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spilledthebeer

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Don't be a f**king idiot, THAT was the thread where the discussion got started!




What are you telling us here Joyless LIE-beral Monkey?????????????????


That SALMON ARE INTERESTED IN GUN CONTROL DISCUSSIONS???????????????????????


Salmon run in SCHOOLS..................................


NOT GANGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And - I sense that you are feeling a little bit frustrated and angry at this time - poor Joyless LIE-beral Monkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How sad that your sense of civil service union HOG ENTITLEMENT.........................



cannot protect you from being exposed as a HYPOCRITE HOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HOW ABSURD that when it comes to YOUR PAY.........................


you are very comfortable with the greed and gross conflict of interest that HOGS and LIE-berals........................


are so DEEPLY INVOLVED WITH - as they exploit the general public for fun and profit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And yet when it comes to the things you wish to BUY.........................


then you want all the rest of us to be RUTHLESS CAPITALISTS...........................


under cutting each other daily so you HOGS can have the best prices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NO wonder you are feeling CRABBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral policy is FAILING ACROSS the board and they will not be able to maintain your gravy train for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

petros

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It has far more to do with the "Y" Chromosome and the affects of Testosterone.
Hello Bi-Curious Kitty

 

Colpy

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https://i.redd.it/abx1nk2eboz31.jpg


Interesting illustration, if you can make it out.


Here's the relevant bit..........2016, Canada. Gang related shootings, 223. Non-gang related shootings, 82. Of those, FOUR (1.3%) were done by legal gun owners.


Yet ALL the ludicrous gun control measures the gov't has brought in, and the gun seizures they are about to bring in are aimed SOLELY at.......legal gun owners. They actually lowered maximum sentences for illegal gun dealing etc.



The fact that I am paranoid obviously does not mean they aren't out to get me.
 

spilledthebeer

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Interesting facts;



Canada has risen to 7th place in the world for per capita gun ownership, with almost over 12.7 million (legal) guns in the country.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country


Canada is at 152nd place for murder rate (out of 230)........with a murder rate of 1.8 per 100,000.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate


That means only 6 countries have a greater number of guns per capita, yet 151 countries have a worse murder rate.


Which indicates there is little or no correlation between gun ownership and murder rates.




WONDERFUL LOGIC THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Which means it will be lost on LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How sad that LIE-berals so strongly object to white people enjoying themselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Colpy

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no gun starts life as an illegal gun.

therefore every illegal gun is somehow procured from a legal gun owner.

so don't target the source of every illegal gun?


Well, because that is NOT the source of "every illegal gun" within Canada.



The point you are missing is that the vast majority of handguns used in crime come from the USA. We have no control over that.


A secondary source of guns is theft from Canadian sources. The fact that a certain segment of society has been victimized by theft is NOT an rational nor ethical reason for the state to re-victimize them by stealing their property.


A tiny number of handguns used in crime are "straw purchases" made by legitimate license holders that sell to criminal gangs for vast profits. Now, these people deserve long prison terms.


But the idea that attacking legal Canadian gun owners will cut the murder rate is a concept so stupid it could only be adopted by an entity so incompetent that recently took up drug dealing..........and lost money. A lot of money.


Gun bans will do the same thing. Achieve nothing, cost a lot, and drive tens, if not hundreds of thousands of guns underground, to be traded on the black market.


Not just stupid, but colossally stupid.
 

Colpy

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If nobody has a gun nobody can steal it or buy it from them.


If nobody had a car, nobody could drive drunk.


If nobody had a knife, nobody would be attacked with knives.


If nobody had a rope, less people would hang themselves.


If nobody had freedom........we stillcouldn't eliminate murder.


There is no freedom without risk.
 

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If nobody had a car, nobody could drive drunk.


If nobody had a knife, nobody would be attacked with knives.


If nobody had a rope, less people would hang themselves.


If nobody had freedom........we stillcouldn't eliminate murder.


There is no freedom without risk.
We are free to address risk

In fact we are obligated to do so.
 

Colpy

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We are free to address risk

In fact we are obligated to do so.


So you are on board with banning cars, knives, ropes.....and freedom?



There is no such thing as a safe space.


We are NOT obligated to address risk.


You really are not dealing with reality, are you?