Fed up with Religions Yet?

petros

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Sal said:
The older I get, the more I think people in general suck regardless of what
they profess to believe. Many people also excel at kindness and selfless acts
that make the world a wonderful place to be, regardless of what they
believe.

I broke away from mainstream religion because it did not make
sense to me. I don't care what people think about that. I have always walked to
the beat of my own drum.
That is exactly what Religion instructs you to do. March to the beat of you own drum but don't step on any toes in your journey and to maintain the road so other can walk down that road easier than you did.
 

Sal

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That is exactly what Religion instructs you to do. March to the beat of you own drum but don't step on any toes in your journey and to maintain the road so other can walk down that road easier than you did.
I like the way you put that Pete.

I would like to think that each of us thinks about what is best for us and those around them and then moves forward to the beat of their drum which is actually their heart.

In my journey I have found that the wiser the person and the more peace and love, acceptance and understanding that flows from them the more they seem to radiate and attract others like a magnet. They don't preach they "listen" and those are the ones people question and want to be near and aspire to be like.

Maybe that's another way to judge our own behaviour...if no one aspires to be like us, maybe it's because we aren't behaving in a manner worth aspiring to.
 

petros

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Maybe that's another way to judge our own behaviour...if no one aspires to be like us, maybe it's because we aren't behaving in a manner worth aspiring to.
And that is why Jesus as an Israelite went toe to toe with the Judean elite who were dictating how to act and think with their new religion.

It's all in the Book.
 

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That is exactly what Religion instructs you to do. March to the beat of you own drum but don't step on any toes in your journey and to maintain the road so other can walk down that road easier than you did.

I like your philosophy!
 

karrie

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No one cares?


There is little in the article to discuss, no?

They broke the law, they will face repercussions, the children are being helped. There isn't even anything in the article aside from the fact that it was a Mennonite community that indicates it was religiously driven abuse. What are you looking for from people exactly?
 

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No one cares?

Yes we care. Problem is these type communities keep everything quiet.
But to answer the OP - I am not fed up with religion. Imagine if people did not have religious beliefs.
What is your opinion on that?
 

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Yes we care. Problem is these type communities keep everything quiet.
But to answer the OP - I am not fed up with religion. Imagine if people did not have religious beliefs.
What is your opinion on that?
It is coming to a planet near you. People are fed up with religion. But, that doesn't mean they don't believe in a deity or are not spiritual. Religion has been very divisive for too long. These days it seems to be more about money that faith or devotion: God wants you to be rich!". I walked in on 100 Huntley Street one time and the guest speaker came out and said, "The Dow Jones averages are up! Send money!" I punched the off button.
 

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I agree with Chris. Morality is innate; it developed through sense of family, tribe. Without it we would not have succeeded as a species. We invented religion to give behaviour codes an origin, just as the gates of heaven were postulated (See Genesis) when we didn't know the origin of rain.

Religion does offer ritual, solace, celebration of life's milestones, and hope. But all religions do; none has a corner on truth. And, the preaching of hellfire to children (to anyone, for that matter) is an obscene perversion of a religion that purports to believe in a loving divinity,
 

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I agree with Chris. Morality is innate; it developed through sense of family, tribe. Without it we would not have succeeded as a species. We invented religion to give behaviour codes an origin, just as the gates of heaven were postulated (See Genesis) when we didn't know the origin of rain.

Religion does offer ritual, solace, celebration of life's milestones, and hope. But all religions do; none has a corner on truth. And, the preaching of hellfire to children (to anyone, for that matter) is an obscene perversion of a religion that purports to believe in a loving divinity,

Invented? How can someone compare faith against logic & reasoning. No one has a corner on truth.
Not all Religions preach hellfire.
It comes down to interpretation.

But I do find that when there is a news story about some Christian sect(s) abuses some get all bent out of shape, and usually rightly so, but they attack the religion, not the sect.

Remember there are over a Billion of us and one or more small sects does not and never will be an accurate reflection of the majority.

I believe in a Creator.
And live and let live.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Invented? How can someone compare faith against logic & reasoning.
It's fairly simple, really, faith in the religious context is belief in the absence of, and in reality often contrary to, logic and reasoning and evidence, and is not a good way to find out what's true, logic and reasoning and evidence are how to do that.
 

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Invented? How can someone compare faith against logic & reasoning. No one has a corner on truth.
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It's fairly simple, really, faith in the religious context is belief in the absence of, and in reality often contrary to, logic and reasoning and evidence, and is not a good way to find out what's true, logic and reasoning and evidence are how to do that.



and then there are the simpletons at the other end of things that think all the answers can be gotten thru "logic, reasoning and evidence".
 

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It's fairly simple, really, faith in the religious context is belief in the absence of, and in reality often contrary to, logic and reasoning and evidence, and is not a good way to find out what's true, logic and reasoning and evidence are how to do that.

Ever make a decision based upon gut feeling, when logic and reasoning dictated an opposite decision?
 

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It's not religion that is the problem but people who use religion for nefarious purposes! -:)



I still don't understand why people who believe in deities feel the need to congregate with others, except to reinforce themselves that their insecurities are shared by others..........



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Former senior Sydney Rabbi Boruch Dov Lesches made the extraordinary remarks in a recent conversation with a person familiar with a series of alleged child rapes and molestation by a man associated with Sydney's Yeshiva community in the 1980s.

Rabbi Lesches' comments are likely to increase public scrutiny of Australia's senior rabbinical leaders' handling of child sexual abuse cases, amid allegations of cover-ups, victim intimidation and the hiding of perpetrators overseas.




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