Fed up with Religions Yet?

[damngrumpy]

How do we know the spiritual motivation or the religious affiliation of those
who are painting swastikas on anything?
The other thing that bothers me is it was said Christians make statements
to inflame Muslims knowing they will react violently. Nonsense. we live in
an open society so Muslims have a right to be offended but they do not
have the right to act with violence.
We have invented political correctness to excuse any number of reactions.
Things are said everyday about Christianity and we don't see people putting
bombs on busses for example or hijacking planes.
Religion needs to be treated like every other sector of society. Religion should
not be given a pass when it comes to obeying the law, or paying full freight
for taxes. That is all religions.
There are many who are living lives within the confines of religion they belong to
in a legal and ethical manner. Then there are those who hide behind their religion
to conduct criminal acts. These are the ones that should be dealt with not as
those of a religion but as someone who is a criminal. Honor killings, religious insult
killings and so should be met with the biggest fist the law has to offer. I am not
fed up with those who believe I am fed up with excuses for bad behaviour.

 

[L Gilbert]

Who? Jewdiciary & Sharia?

Pick your own. I picked my own. lol

 

[darkbeaver]

Won't it be nice when we have standardized religion along say the very efficient BhaHigh model. It will be a new world then.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Yes, and power corrupts religion uniquely, because of its claims to have a lock on certain truths. It's a short step from there to deciding it has both the right and the duty to interfere in the lives of those who disagree with it.

 

[petros]

What truths might they be controlling and hiding from you?

The Caramilk secret?

Guess what?

The caramel is frozen.

Now what would you like to know about life?

 

[WLDB]

The caramel is frozen.

Now what would you like to know about life?

You probably dont have very long to answer any other questions about life. Now that you have revealed the caramilk secret it wont be long before their ninjas some for you.

 

[Cliffy]

What truths might they be controlling and hiding from you?

That we are divine beings, that we create our own reality, that we don't need intermediaries to to communicate with the divine for us, that the truth is inside not outside, that it can't be contained in books, that Jesus was anti-religion, that he wasn't anything other than a man, that the bible was changed by the church to hide the truth and consolidate their power, etc, etc.

 

[JLM]

That we are divine beings, that we create our own reality, that we don't need intermediaries to to communicate with the divine for us, that the truth is inside not outside, that it can't be contained in books, that Jesus was anti-religion, that he wasn't anything other than a man, that the bible was changed by the church to hide the truth and consolidate their power, etc, etc.

Maybe you're not divine but I always thought I am. -

 

[Dexter Sinister]

What truths might they be controlling and hiding from you?

That's not what I said, they're not controlling and hiding them, they broadcast them freely. They just think, erroneously, that they have them.

Now what would you like to know about life?

I don't think you can tell me anything I don't already know.

 

[JLM]

I don't think you can tell me anything I don't already know.

Everybody in the world knows something you don't. -

 

[Dexter Sinister]

True, but that doesn't mean it'd be of any value to me to know it. I'm sure petros knows lots of thing I don't know, like the story of his life, but I don't believe he has anything useful to tell me about life that I don't already know.

 

[tay]

That's a twist...he went after a female...........


Priest draws 8-year prison sentence for molesting girl


A priest who crawled into the bed of a 13-year-old girl to molest her when he was an overnight guest in her parent's home admitted his betrayal to his victim and her family Friday in a case that unnerved Sacramento's Catholic community for more than 20 months.

"My actions were of a weak and sinful man," the Rev. Uriel Ojeda said in his first public admission to molesting the girl – first when he worked at Holy Rosary Parish in Woodland and later after he had been transferred to Our Lady of Mercy in Redding.

Sacramento Superior Court Judge Eugene L. Balonon then sentenced Ojeda, 33, to eight years in prison for touching the girl in a manner that "constitutes substantial sexual conduct" under the California Penal Code.

Ojeda's remarks came in front of a courtroom nearly packed with supporters who have maintained his innocence from the day of his Nov. 30, 2011, arrest through the no-contest plea he entered July 5.

They continued to back Ojeda even after a days-long hearing in which a priest representing the Catholic Diocese of Sacramento and a private investigator for the church testified that Ojeda had admitted to them that he molested the girl.

At Friday's sentencing, some of Ojeda's backers wept quietly while others shook their heads or sat stone-faced and silent, first when Deputy District Attorney Allison Dunham read the victim impact statements from the girl and her parents, and then when Ojeda himself admitted to his sin.

"You traumatized me," the victim, who is now 17, said in her 10-page letter to Ojeda and the court.

When he spoke, Ojeda first said, "I would like for the record to show my plea is of no contest." But, he added, "for the benefit of my own soul and salvation, I do want to apologize first to the family and victim. I am sorry."


Ojeda also apologized to Sacramento Bishop Jaime Soto. And with the Vatican in the process of having him removed from the priesthood, he offered "as my final acts of a priest, to apologize to all priests who serve faithfully before God for bringing shame to the priesthood."

Read more here: Priest draws 8-year prison sentence for molesting a girl - Sacramento City News - The Sacramento Bee​

Priest draws 8-year prison sentence for molesting a girl - Sacramento City News - The Sacramento Bee

Read more here: Priest draws 8-year prison sentence for molesting a girl - Sacramento City News - The Sacramento Bee​

 

[L Gilbert]

Yes, and power corrupts religion uniquely, because of its claims to have a lock on certain truths. It's a short step from there to deciding it has both the right and the duty to interfere in the lives of those who disagree with it.

Quite.

claims to have a lock on certain truths.

What truths might they be controlling and hiding from you?

How'd you get to that question from what Dexter said? Claiming to have a lock on certain "truths" is not "controlling and hiding" them.

You probably dont have very long to answer any other questions about life. Now that you have revealed the caramilk secret it wont be long before their ninjas some for you.

They'd better come get me, too then, because I had their "secret" figured out decades ago.

 

[tay]

A CHRISTIAN children's entertainer who allegedly plotted to kidnap, cook and eat a child has been jailed for 20 years.

Ronald William Brown, from Largo, Florida, was handed the sentence for possession of child pornography.

This was despite him regularly warning children about the sin of pornography on his long-running Christian Television Network show.

Brown, 58, also plotted online with Michael Arnett about targeting a specific child to kill and eat.

"I imagine him wiggling and then going still," Brown is reported telling Arnett in their online chats.

Brown solicited obscene images of children being tied up, gagged, or otherwise harmed. He wrote out his murder fantasies in online forums and tried to procure photos of dead children.


more


http://gawker.com/christian-childrens-entertainer-who-wanted-to-eat-kids-1003995633

 

[tay]

Fifty-six police officers and two civilians were injured in clashes in central Belfast in the latest flare-up in tensions between Northern Ireland's Protestant and Catholic communities, authorities said on Saturday.


Belfast remains divided between pro-British Protestants and Catholics who generally favor unification with Ireland, despite a 1998 peace and power-sharing deal that put an end to the worst of the "troubles" in the British province.

Protestants tried to block a march on Friday evening along the city's main thoroughfare, Royal Avenue, by the nationalist side of the community and when police moved in to clear them, they threw bricks, bottles and fireworks.

Burnt-out cars and rubble littered the city centre and shop fronts were damaged. Police said seven people were arrested.

The Catholic parade, marking the anniversary of the 1971 introduction of internment without trial by British authorities, eventually had to pass along a different route.

Eight were hurt on Thursday night when a crowd at a bonfire to mark the anniversary in a Catholic-dominated part of Belfast threw paint bombs, bottles and masonry at police.

Forty-two years ago, soldiers swept into Catholic districts and arrested more than 340 people as the British government sought to halt growing Irish Republican Army (IRA) violence aimed at extinguishing rule from London.

In all, more than 3,600 people died in a sectarian conflict that began in the late 1960s, including more than 1,000 members of the British security forces. More than 36,000 were injured.


Northern Ireland clashes leave 56 police, 2 civilians injured | Reuters

 

[tay]

Kathleen Taylor, a neurologist at Oxford University, said that recent developments suggest that we will soon be able to treat religious fundamentalism and other forms of ideological beliefs potentially harmful to society as a form of mental illness.

She made the assertion during a talk at the Hay Literary Festival in Wales on Wednesday. She said that radicalizing ideologies may soon be viewed not as being of personal choice or free will but as a category of mental disorder. She said new developments in neuroscience could make it possible to consider extremists as people with mental illness rather than criminals.

She told The Times of London: "One of the surprises may be to see people with certain beliefs as people who can be treated. Someone who has for example become radicalized to a cult ideology -- we might stop seeing that as a personal choice that they have chosen as a result of pure free will and may start treating it as some kind of mental disturbance."

Taylor admits that the scope of what could end up being labelled "fundamentalist" is expansive.

She continued: "I am not just talking about the obvious candidates like radical Islam or some of the more extreme cults. I am talking about things like the belief that it is OK to beat your children. These beliefs are very harmful but are not normally categorized as mental illness. In many ways that could be a very positive thing because there are no doubt beliefs in our society that do a heck of a lot of damage, that really do a lot of harm."


Read more: Religious fundamentalism could soon be treated as mental illness

 

[Cliffy]

Kathleen Taylor, a neurologist at Oxford University, said that recent developments suggest that we will soon be able to treat religious fundamentalism and other forms of ideological beliefs potentially harmful to society as a form of mental illness.

I've always thought that fundamentalism was a mental illness.

 

[tay]

I've always thought that fundamentalism was a mental illness.

We all tsk-tsk when we read of believers around the globe when they commit some horrendous act to either their family members or strangers in the name of their God so I think she is on the right track.

Of course finding these people before they act out is a different story...........





www.youtube.com/watch?v=S62Z37bIZHk

 

[karrie]

A CHRISTIAN children's entertainer who allegedly plotted to kidnap, cook and eat a child has been jailed for 20 years.

Hmmmmm..... really, this is an example of what's wrong with religion?

 

[tay]

Church Of Christ Exiles Member Linda Cooper For Supporting Lesbian Daughter



Tennessee resident Linda Cooper has been asked to leave a church she has attended for six decades because she would not publicly condemn her daughter’s lesbian lifestyle in front of the congregation.

Cooper’s daughter, Kat Cooper, is a detective with the Collegedale Police Department. She and her partner Krista were married in Maryland in May. The couple has been fighting the Collegedale city government in an effort to be granted the same legal rights as heterosexual couples. They recently won over legislators, and Collegedale became the first city in Tennessee to introduce same-sex benefits.

more

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/gay-issues/ridgedale-church-christ-exiles-member-linda-cooper-supporting-lesbian-daughter