Everyone is bending the knee to piss off Trump

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Where did you get this crap, Colpy? Tomlin gave no order, there was no argument or controversy, and Villaneuva didn't "run" anywhere. I was watching. He walked out to the end of the tunnel, and stood with his hand over his heart duting the anthem.

You're not usually the type to fall for breathless yellow journalism. Everything OK?
 

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Cliffy still believes everything he reads on facebook.........
Look Dummy:

It's strange to kick off a conversation on football by talking about justice, racism and the price of freedom.
In this case, they're all intertwined, a sport laced with virtuous American ideals coming apart at the seams.
But before we get into how the NFL is treating quarterback Colin Kaepernick, let's take a look at the big picture. The sad reality is that those who stick their necks out for a righteous cause, no matter what line of work they're in, often pay a hefty price.

Colin Kaepernick is being punished because he took a knee for justice | Commentary | Dallas News

It was the original reason Colin took a knee and his supporters are doing the same. It is the racist who tried to make it about the flag and the anthem.
 

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Unity

"It was just a sign of unity that we're together," said quarterback Kevin Glenn to media after the game.

Glenn said that many players live in the U.S. in the off-season and have family and friends there now. He added some players have played in the NFL before too.

"Sometimes people don't understand that we have to go back to that kind of stuff. We're here for six months, but then we have to go back to that and live in that. That's why we did it."

"A lot of us that locked arms are Americans, we're African-American. So we understand exactly what's going on back home," said offensive lineman Derek Dennis.

"We just wanted to show that just because we're north of the border we're not blind to what's going on back home."

Dennis said the team didn't consider kneeling for the national anthem because it wasn't necessary.

"We all have the opportunity to play in a great country like Canada. We didn't want to disrespect the Canadian flag or the Canadian Armed Forces because this country's done wonders for a lot of us. If it wasn't for the CFL we wouldn't have the opportunity to play professional football," said Dennis.


Sask. Roughriders stand arm-in-arm during O Canada at Mosaic Stadium - Saskatchewan - CBC News

Classy
 

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Ah, a gunney
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Its not actually in the NFL rules that player should stand and show respect for the flag
so these football guys can not be fined or whatever, anytime.


What the NFL rule book says about the national anthem
 
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Here are five key statistics you need to know about cops killing blacks.

1. Cops killed nearly twice as many whites as blacks in 2015. According to data compiled by The Washington Post, 50 percent of the victims of fatal police shootings were white, while 26 percent were black. The majority of these victims had a gun or "were armed or otherwise threatening the officer with potentially lethal force," according to Mac Donald in a speech at Hillsdale College.

Some may argue that these statistics are evidence of racist treatment toward blacks, since whites consist of 62 percent of the population and blacks make up 13 percent of the population. But as Mac Donald writes in The Wall Street Journal, 2009 statistics from the Bureau of Justice Statistics reveal that blacks were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the 75 biggest counties in the country, despite only comprising roughly 15 percent of the population in these counties.

"Such a concentration of criminal violence in minority communities means that officers will be disproportionately confronting armed and often resisting suspects in those communities, raising officers’ own risk of using lethal force," writes MacDonald.

MacDonald also pointed out in her Hillsdale speech that blacks "commit 75 percent of all shootings, 70 percent of all robberies, and 66 percent of all violent crime" in New York City, even though they consist of 23 percent of the city's population.

"The black violent crime rate would actually predict that more than 26 percent of police victims would be black," MacDonald said. "Officer use of force will occur where the police interact most often with violent criminals, armed suspects, and those resisting arrest, and that is in black neighborhoods."

2. More whites and Hispanics die from police homicides than blacks. According to Mac Donald, 12 percent of white and Hispanic homicide deaths were due to police officers, while only four percent of black homicide deaths were the result of police officers.

"If we’re going to have a 'Lives Matter' anti-police movement, it would be more appropriately named "White and Hispanic Lives Matter,'" said Mac Donald in her Hillsdale speech.

3. The Post's data does show that unarmed black men are more likely to die by the gun of a cop than an unarmed white man...but this does not tell the whole story. In August 2015, the ratio was seven-to-one of unarmed black men dying from police gunshots compared to unarmed white men; the ratio was six-to-one by the end of 2015. But Mac Donald points out in The Marshall Project that looking at the details of the actual incidents that occurred paints a different picture:

The “unarmed” label is literally accurate, but it frequently fails to convey highly-charged policing situations. In a number of cases, if the victim ended up being unarmed, it was certainly not for lack of trying. At least five black victims had reportedly tried to grab the officer’s gun, or had been beating the cop with his own equipment. Some were shot from an accidental discharge triggered by their own assault on the officer. And two individuals included in the Post’s “unarmed black victims” category were struck by stray bullets aimed at someone else in justified cop shootings. If the victims were not the intended targets, then racism could have played no role in their deaths.

In one of those unintended cases, an undercover cop from the New York Police Department was conducting a gun sting in Mount Vernon, just north of New York City. One of the gun traffickers jumped into the cop’s car, stuck a pistol to his head, grabbed $2,400 and fled. The officer gave chase and opened fire after the thief again pointed his gun at him. Two of the officer’s bullets accidentally hit a 61-year-old bystander, killing him. That older man happened to be black, but his race had nothing to do with his tragic death. In the other collateral damage case, Virginia Beach, Virginia, officers approached a car parked at a convenience store that had a homicide suspect in the passenger seat. The suspect opened fire, sending a bullet through an officer’s shirt. The cops returned fire, killing their assailant as well as a woman in the driver’s seat. That woman entered the Post’s database without qualification as an “unarmed black victim” of police fire.

Mac Donald examines a number of other instances, including unarmed black men in San Diego, CA and Prince George's County, MD attempting to reach for a gun in a police officer's holster. In the San Diego case, the unarmed black man actually "jumped the officer" and assaulted him, and the cop shot the man since he was "fearing for his life." MacDonald also notes that there was an instance in 2015 where "three officers were killed with their own guns, which the suspects had wrestled from them."

4. Black and Hispanic police officers are more likely to fire a gun at blacks than white officers. This is according to a Department of Justice report in 2015 about the Philadelphia Police Department, and is further confirmed that by a study conducted University of Pennsylvania criminologist Greg Ridgeway in 2015 that determined black cops were 3.3 times more likely to fire a gun than other cops at a crime scene.

5. Blacks are more likely to kill cops than be killed by cops. This is according to FBI data, which also found that 40 percent of cop killers are black. According to Mac Donald, the police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black than a cop killing an unarmed black person.

Despite the facts, the anti-police rhetoric of Black Lives Matter and their leftist sympathizers have resulted in what Mac Donald calls the "Ferguson Effect," as murders have spiked by 17 percent among the 50 biggest cities in the U.S. as a result of cops being more reluctant to police neighborhoods out of fear of being labeled as racists. Additionally, there have been over twice as many cops victimized by fatal shootings in the first three months of 2016.

Anti-police rhetoric has deadly consequences.
ww.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler#exit-modal


For the amount of useful information they contains, memes are so kindergardenish

Police Kill Too Many People—White and Black
Police Kill Too Many Innocent People
hmmmm Time magazine
 

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Imagine if a white guy refused to stand during the anthem because of racist policies that make it harder for white guys to get into university or to get jobs?

He'd be fired in an instant.

A bit hard to protest the imaginary isn't it?
 

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Much on this thread is about free speech and free expression but we all know they're hogtied by so called hate speech, one cannot freely express their opinion as it may offend someones delicate sensibility and they scream hate, can't for the life of me grasp how critique became hate.
Anyhow international sporting events use flags to identify teams or participants plus standings and if high enough their anthem is played. Flag and anthem are a source of pride for nations sports fans but sadly not for pigskin players and now other fat kat 'sportsmen', vanity trumps shared pride....patriotism at its' finest.
Totally agree on the original thrust of this protest cops are indeed out of control, trump changed the channel, much easier to ensnare egotistical gridiron $tars on a faux premise than dig into and prosecute cop shop crimes. IMO cops are cheering the pigskin rebellion, sadly colin lost his defiant gamble when trump made himself a target by daring to defame pigskin stars.
 

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Standing up for the national anthem, pledging allegiance to the flag, etc., are mindless rituals of nationalism and patriotism, altogether irrational concepts that seek to make ordinary people undermine their own conscience and blindly support and love their country no matter how undeserving of it. For those people who follow the ancient Prophets and their message of being loyal to the One God Elohim/Alaha/Allah, and Jerusalem the future capital of the Messianic government. Those who have been deluded by patriotism and nationalism will find themselves on the wrong side of history when the Messianic armed uprising begins and Jerusalem becomes its capital city.
 

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Standing up for the national anthem, pledging allegiance to the flag, etc., are mindless rituals of nationalism and patriotism, altogether irrational concepts that seek to make ordinary people undermine their own conscience and blindly support and love their country no matter how undeserving of it. For those people who follow the ancient Prophets and their message of being loyal to the One God Elohim/Alaha/Allah, and Jerusalem the future capital of the Messianic government. Those who have been deluded by patriotism and nationalism will find themselves on the wrong side of history when the Messianic armed uprising begins and Jerusalem becomes its capital city.

I agree with the first part about patriotism but religion is a thing of the past and will be gone before you can have your armed uprising. Your god is a fiction and your religion is nonsense, just like all the other Abrahamic religions. Besides, the Christians have all the nukes and they will turn the middle east to glass rather than give up their allegiance to Jesus. Religion is dead.
 

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I agree with the first part about patriotism but religion is a thing of the past and will be gone before you can have your armed uprising. Your god is a fiction and your religion is nonsense, just like all the other Abrahamic religions. Besides, the Christians have all the nukes and they will turn the middle east to glass rather than give up their allegiance to Jesus. Religion is dead.
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Christianity itself is dead, especially as an influential force in social issues and politics. Abrahamic religions are highly apocalyptic, especially Islam. But Christianity has become ‘tamed’ over time as it was adapted by the Roman Empire and enjoyed position of power and prestige in Europe and then beyond through colonialism. But apocalypticism is generally detested by those in positions of power and priviledge. Yet apocalypticism is the feature of Religion which makes it attractive in the first place. Since Christianity has become irrelevant as a force for influencing the people, hence why agnosticism and irreligiosity has spread very fast in the so-called Christian West. Today Christianity is simply a highly personalized religion, especially the Evangelical variety of it. Islam, however, is much more dynamic force in the political and social sphere, apart from the personalized devotions and spirituality that are common to all other religions. In the Abrahamic religious perspective, the faithful are suppose to go against the grain and defy those entrenched with power and material wealth. Even Jesus said “The world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world” (John 17: 16). But when we look at Christianity today, we see that Christians are very much part of the world, in fact they dominate the world. Christendom is the Roman Empire, it is the ‘Whore of Babylon’. So this conflict between Heaven and Hell is such that the powerful but corrupt powers of the world are actually on the wrong side of history. When the Messiah comes he will exact retribution against these powerful nations.

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When the Messiah comes he will exact retribution against these powerful nations.

People have been waiting for the messiah for thousands of years and he hasn't showed up and won't because he is just wishful thinking of those who don't take responsibility for their own stuff. Nobody is going to save humanity. They don't deserve to be saved. Muslims are killing Muslims. Why would a god save a bunch of savages. Humans are savages. We haven't evolved past the caves.
You must think your god is stupid.
You want to be saved? Save yourself.