Everyone is bending the knee to piss off Trump

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Interesting article on the topic.

"I try not to be cynical. But weeks like this make it hard.

On Friday night, President Trump traveled down to Huntsville, Alabama, for a campaign rally. Standing on stage, he paused mid ramble, struck his “Il Duce” pose: both hands gripping the lectern, his chin lifted up and to the right, lips pursed and heavy lids. He had important things to say.

A cataclysmic hurricane has left over three million Americans in Puerto Rico without power and water. The government of North Korea just declared a nuclear attack on the U.S. is “inevitable”. A new health care bill is being pushed through Congress that will uninsure tens of millions of people. Multiple investigations are uncovering more and more evidence of Russian intervention in the U.S. election. Nazis are a thing again.

But the president wanted to talk about football. He said, “Wouldn’t you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, ‘Get that son of a bitch off the field right now. Out! He’s fired. He’s fired!’”

Judging from the cheering crowd, this was a popular opinion.

Trump was talking about football players who have been taking a knee during the Star Spangled Banner to protest racism in America. This has turned into a controversial issue. Owners, fans, other players, have called it inappropriate, disloyal, ungrateful and unpatriotic.

Ironically, even just a few years ago these words would have applied to the entire league. Because standing for the national anthem is a new thing. Players and coaches used to stay in the locker room or sit on the sidelines.

This changed in 2009, because the Pentagon had a problem. The military had failed to meet its recruitment targets for years, largely because joining the armed forces all but guaranteed a deployment to Iraq or Afghanistan to join in wars that that had been burning since 2001 with few obvious victories to show for it. Even with high unemployment rates, finding more young men to fight these unpopular wars was a struggle. What’s worse, by the military’s own estimate, only 1 per cent of Americans are fit enough, educated enough, and inclined to put on a uniform. So where do you find these folks? At football games.

Therefore the Pentagon began paying the NFL to help its recruitment efforts. It brought vets on the field, added flags, F-15’s flew over, military bands played in the stands, and the owners were asked to trot out the players for the anthem. It’s marketing 101 – if your favorite sports star is saluting Old Glory, you’re more likely to sign on the line which is dotted. And, guess what? It worked. That year the forces met their recruitment targets for the first time in years.

Since then, according to a recent Senate report the Department of Defence has spent $53 million for patriotic displays at sporting events, including one at a Seattle Seahawks game where 10 soldiers re-enlisted on the field during a pre-game show.

Meanwhile, social media began to expand. Twitter users increased from 30 million in 2009 to 328 million today. This brought us memes, cute cats and cops killing unarmed black men. To be fair, this had been happening for decades. In fact, in the 1970s, by some estimates, cops were shooting 10 times as many people. But they weren’t being filmed doing it, and those clips weren’t being transmitted into our pockets.

But now we’re watching the bloodshed on a daily basis, and we’re watching one officer after another being exonerated. Like the cop who said “I’m gonna kill this mother****er.” Then killed him. Then planted a gun. Then was acquitted anyway last week.

And now a man who started his career by banning blacks from his rental properties is president. And Friday night, down in Alabama, a state that only stopped lynching blacks in 1981, he held a rally with white people, angrily denouncing “ungrateful” blacks. We use to call that a Klan rally, which is probably why the KKK are such enthusiastic supporters of Trump.

So, how is it possible to not be cynical? How can you know any of this, and not give up on it all? Endless wars. Racism.

Institutionalized injustice. Greed. Ignorance. And that is just from unpacking one thread of one speech by one politician.

Maybe this is what you have to do: focus on the guys kneeling. In this whole ugly, sprawling mess, the only people who are not acting out of self-interest, who are trying to make things better, to make things a little more just, are the guys on their knee. And today, the day after the president denounced them as sons of bitches, there are more of them than there were yesterday. So, maybe there’s hope. It would be nice to think so.

Trump, taking a knee in the NFL and the true meaning of patriotism - Macleans.ca
 

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Any vids of the guy with the hair putting his helmet on?? Any thoughts of why women watch football??

As a Disabled Veteran let me make my opinion very clear. If you take a knee during the National Anthem you are not disrespecting me. YOU ARE HONORING ME. I sacrificed for your freedom to make that choice. - Shawn Carr
Cool, why is he trying all the cures at once??
 

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The protest isn't about the flag.
It's about the anthem itself.
This stanza is in that anthem:
"And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country, should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave."
THIS is what's being protested. If you didn't know it before, you know it now.
If you are NOT a person descendant from slaves, then put yourself in a black person's shoes and ask yourself: "Why would I honor a song that perpetuates the keeping of slaves, and with the ultimate in hypocrisy claim to be the 'land of the free and the home of the brave"?
If you don't get it now, chances are you never will.
For now: Shut your mouth ... and take a knee. - Francine Podenski
 

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As a Disabled Veteran let me make my opinion very clear. If you take a knee during the National Anthem you are not disrespecting me. YOU ARE HONORING ME. I sacrificed for your freedom to make that choice. - Shawn Carr

As a disabled veteran (no capitalisation needed), let me make myself very clear. Most of us don't dress like that - Me
 

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As a Disabled Veteran let me make my opinion very clear. If you take a knee during the National Anthem you are not disrespecting me. YOU ARE HONORING ME. I sacrificed for your freedom to make that choice. - Shawn Carr

I see he's a Minnesota Vikings fan too!

LOOOOOSER!
 

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The Riders linked arms in solidarity yesterday but refused to disrespect the anthem and armed forces by kneeling.

Classy!
 

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The Riders linked arms in solidarity yesterday but refused to disrespect the anthem and armed forces by kneeling.

Classy!

Unity

"It was just a sign of unity that we're together," said quarterback Kevin Glenn to media after the game.

Glenn said that many players live in the U.S. in the off-season and have family and friends there now. He added some players have played in the NFL before too.

"Sometimes people don't understand that we have to go back to that kind of stuff. We're here for six months, but then we have to go back to that and live in that. That's why we did it."

"A lot of us that locked arms are Americans, we're African-American. So we understand exactly what's going on back home," said offensive lineman Derek Dennis.

"We just wanted to show that just because we're north of the border we're not blind to what's going on back home."

Dennis said the team didn't consider kneeling for the national anthem because it wasn't necessary.

"We all have the opportunity to play in a great country like Canada. We didn't want to disrespect the Canadian flag or the Canadian Armed Forces because this country's done wonders for a lot of us. If it wasn't for the CFL we wouldn't have the opportunity to play professional football," said Dennis.


Sask. Roughriders stand arm-in-arm during O Canada at Mosaic Stadium - Saskatchewan - CBC News
 

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For those of us who don't remember, the specific meaning of the kneeling/sitting protest was point out that the U.S. is not "the land of the free and the home of the brave;" specifically that the U.S. is not such because of ongoing discrimination against African Americans, particularly in the form of police brutality and lack of accounting therefor. It NEVER had anything to do with the military, military policy, or foreign policy. As a veteran, I do not feel at all disrespected.
 

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‘Sunday Night Football’ Ratings Down Again On Day Of Player Protests
TV Ratings: ‘Sunday Night Football’ Down Again On Day Of Player Protests | Deadline

oh, the sparks will be flyin over the money

For those of us who don't remember, the specific meaning of the kneeling/sitting protest was point out that the U.S. is not "the land of the free and the home of the brave;" specifically that the U.S. is not such because of ongoing discrimination against African Americans, particularly in the form of police brutality and lack of accounting therefor. It NEVER had anything to do with the military, military policy, or foreign policy. As a veteran, I do not feel at all disrespected.

No it means you are kissing someones butt or sucking on ..
well you know
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I would bet a fair chunk of change that the people that watch NFL and the people that support Trump are more often than not one and the same.

Will the NFL take a hit over this? lost viewership?

It would be so nice to see.

Imagine if a white guy refused to stand during the anthem because of racist policies that make it harder for white guys to get into university or to get jobs?

He'd be fired in an instant.

As the rest of these multi-million dollar pissants should be fired.
 

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Yeah, you have the freedom to have an opinion, unless your opinion is that you don't like to stand for the anthem. You don't have that freedom.
 

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I would bet a fair chunk of change that the people that watch NFL and the people that support Trump are more often than not one and the same.
Jay Wacker, NFL fan and watcher since 1990






Yes. I couldn’t find a poll, but the demographics are pretty telling.
Here are some demographics I found which seem plausible

  • 1 in 4 NFL fans has an income above $100k.
  • 1 in 4 of NFL fans make $40k or less annually.
  • 77% of NFL fans are Caucasian (compared with 62% in the population), with 15% being African-American/Black and 8% being Hispanic.
  • The 55+ age demographic is the largest percentage off the NFL fans demographics at 37% compared with 28% of the US.
  • 55% of NFL fans are men.
  • The Midwest has the highest percentage of fans with the West having the lowest fan-rates (no wonder with all the jerking around of teams).
So NFL fans are wealthier, whiter, more male, and older than the America as a whole. That sounds like the Trump demographic.
These don’t look like landslide numbers, more like a 53–47 voting rate for Trump.


Will the NFL take a hit over this? lost viewership?

It would be so nice to see.
Why?

Imagine if a white guy refused to stand during the anthem because of racist policies that make it harder for white guys to get into university or to get jobs?

He'd be fired in an instant.
And yet John Rocker, the baseball pitcher who repeatedly made racist statements, was not fired.

As the rest of these multi-million dollar pissants should be fired.
Why?
 

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Funny when on the job... well, when you start costing other people money, it's called biting the hand that feeds you.
;)
say, have you ever had a job?

The other thing is: you come across so bitter and non feminine...
are you, like what you pretend are relevant facts, a fake female?