10.5 million dollar compensation offer too Omar Khadr

taxslave

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Democracy, rights and freedoms and accountability only mean something when it isn't easy. If the government gets to pick and choose when to "grant us" our rights and freedoms, then they aren't worth anything. Politicians are usually inclined to take the easy way out. They need to be applauded when they do the right thing, especially when they know that it probably won't be popular.

Why was this the right thing:
  • The Government anticipated losing in court and having to pay more than what they agreed to pay. We generally seem to want the government to operate like a business and spend out tax money well. Settling in a case like this is what a business would do.
  • His rights were violated by the Government (as confirmed by the Supreme Court).
  • He was a child at the time directed by adults. He can't be held to the same standard as an adult who is acting on his own.
  • We aren't condoning the actions of the adults in this and we aren't even dealing with his actual guilt or innocence. It is the action/inaction of the Government that is in question.
  • His confession was extracted through torture. That makes it very questionable. It would not be admissible in any normal court of law. As far as I know, the charges weren't independently proven.
  • It is important that the Government be accountable. Politicians and Bureaucrats can't be allowed to use the power of the Government and their positions to bully, mistreat and stonewall citizens. Personally, I'd rather see those who made the decisions fined or put in jail but that isn't how it works (unfortunately).

I know that many people don't get this and are quite prepared to support situational ethics rather than basic principles. A strong democracy has to stick by its principles, even when it isn't easy.

Still doesn't make it our problem. His parents took him to Afganistan, not the Canadian government. His parents taught him to kill, not the Canadian government. The US government put him in Gitmo, not the Canadian government. You see a patern here yet? It is not our problem. THe Canadian government asked the US government to let Radar serve his time in Canada which is all that is required.
 

JLM

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My grandmother's brother joined the Royal Canadian Artillery at Fort George in 1915. He was born in 1900. Many thousands of others did the same. I don't know how much of the Canadian Corps in WWI was under age but I 'd hazard a guess that it was between 5% and 10% of them. My Great Uncle was a muleskinner ... that is, he drove teams of horses resupplying the trenches and limbering guns. He was in every battle that the Canadian Corps. were in, right up to the end. We had thousands of child soldiers fighting for this country early in the twentieth century. They cracked down on it while recruiting for WWII but it isn't that far behind us. I personally knew a Canadian child soldier.


You CAN NOT compare 15 year olds of a century ago with 15 year olds today. In those days as soon as you could feed yourself and wipe your bum, you had to start fending for yourself. Urban kids (in particular today) are used to having pretty much everything done for them.

I'm sure that many people who express strong (negative) opinions on this topic don't understand much about the child-soldier situation (and may not care as long as they can express their opinion). I admit that I didn't and still only have a superficial understanding. It is estimated that there are as many as 300,000 child soldiers involved with conflicts around the world. 40% of armed forces (including terrorist groups, of course) recruit children. They are used as cannon fodder. Children are easier to manipulate than adults so unscrupulous adults take advantage of that. These children are still children and they are being abused. Should we not be more concerned with that big picture than the specific case of one abused child soldier?


Unless people spent most of the 10 years with Khadr on pretty much a daily basis, they don't really have a valid opinion on the matter.
 

Cliffy

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IdRatherBeSkiing

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Another meme with the Lieberal lies. Some times it is worth fighting to the last breath in court. This is one of those times. And just because somebody is owed $20+ million doesn't mean they get paid. Look at the poor widow in the USA who has yet to receive a dime from the slimy terrorist.

Also while criticizing Harper, they left out that the PM in charge when the incidents happened was a fellow Lieberal.
 

B00Mer

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Who cares, what's done is done...

What we should be doing it lynching the Liberal Scum Judge in Ontario who blocked Omar from being liable for a Court Judgement out of the USA...

Anyone what to post the judges name and photo to shame him?
 

JLM

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That rules out your opinion.


Exactly, that's why I'm in favour of giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Who cares, what's done is done...

What we should be doing it lynching the Liberal Scum Judge in Ontario who blocked Omar from being liable for a Court Judgement out of the USA...

Anyone what to post the judges name and photo to shame him?


I'm having a hard time of making sense of what you say.
 

DaSleeper

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Dear supporter,

Thanks again for signing our petition opposing the $10.5 million payment to Omar Khadr.

In the first nine days, more than 133,000 Canadians signed the petition. Excluding the middle of the night, that’s 1,000 Canadians per hour.

To put this into context, the most successful
e-petition tabled in the House of Commons was around 130,000 and that took four months. We beat that in nine days!

We wanted to let you know that we delivered your petition directly to the Prime Minister’s Office last Thursday. If you want to watch the video of our federal director Aaron Wudrick delivering your petition, you can watch it here:
https://www.facebook.com/TaxpayerDOTcom/videos/10155560794498910/

We’ve heard from a bunch of Canadians who didn’t know of the petition until last week's delivery, so we’re keeping the petition going here: https://www.taxpayer.com/resource-centre/petitions/petition?tpContentId=162?tpContentId=162
If enough people keep signing, we will do another delivery.



We might not have been able to stop this payment, but getting organized made an impact. There’s no doubt that the Prime Minister heard loud and clear that Canadians are upset. Hopefully that will cause him to reconsider next time he’s faced with a similar decision.

Here at the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, we don’t win every fight we take on, but that’s because we take on the fights that matter. Win or lose we’re going to stand up and be a voice for hundreds of thousands of Canadians.

We don’t take government grants, and there’s no deep-pocketed billionaire, corporation or union footing our bills. Last year, more than 30,000 Canadians reached into their wallets and made a donation so that we could take on campaigns like this one. Without small donations from thousands of Canadians, there would not have been a petition delivery to the Prime Minister and there would not have been the media coverage to show millions of others that they were not alone in their anger.

Will you join these Canadians and make a financial contribution today? You can make your donation through our secure website here:
https://www.taxpayer.com/donate/

Thanks for all that you do to make Canada a better place.
- Aaron, Scott, Shannon and the entire team at the CTF


P.S.: Tabitha Speer, the widow of the US Army medic that was killed by the grenade that Khadr admitted to throwing, is going after compensation from Khadr. She has started a gofundme campaign to cover her legal bills. If you’re so inclined, you can donate to it here: https://www.gofundme.com/tabitha-speer-legal-expense-fund


 

JamesBondo

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I am certain that our canadian veterans dont get paid 10.5 million when disabled by IEDs

The double standard is sickening.