Who was correct, Jews or Christians? Was Eden our elevation or our fall?

Cliffy

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I am the material me beast, flesh and blood, used flesh and blood, nearly worn out flesh and blood, that reminds me, I have cannabis out in the lab. The holographic you is the spiritual you the sum of your mind quickened by the great super conscious engineer of all, ain't you?
That's where we get all the ideas I figure. There's nothing new under any suns, never can be, everything that can be already is, especially ideas. Oh look at the clock, time , bedtime, must smoke/worship first, maybe I'll sleep with a little help from my green spirit stuff. Arthritis is bothering me something awful last few months Cliffy, I'm getting tired of the fleshy experience everything squeaks and crunches in my joints and my muscles hurt all the time and there's five months of frozen hell to get through, a barometric nightmare. How's that for moaning eh, time to sleep, goodnight Cliffy.
Arseritis is an inflammation and "Devil's Claw" works for me on that front. My shattered shoulder is a great barometer and it tells me a cold front is moving in and the temperature is dropping like a stone. Cannabis helps the mind cope with pain but Devil's Claw helps the body deal with it. Sleep well. Stay warm, there in the eastern wasteland. We are entering the winter of our lives.
 

MHz

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They were the Hyksos and they ruled and ruined Eygpt, they were well aquainted with usary even then they played the victim.


Israel was not a country, it was never a country, it is not now a country, Israel is a station or degree of the illuminated and when you've been illuminated you know and remember how the primal con works.

Eden was the fall to flesh the commitment to matter the test of souls in hell. You and I are students of matter, souls consigned to the trials and tribulations of the carnal state and hounded and hopefully enlightened by the temptations of the beastly you. A contest between the beastly you and the saintly you. And that's all it's about.
That's not a unique ending for any nations that has existed since dirt, that probably works for individuals as well. As a social engineering exercise did you ever (like I think anybody has done it) chart out the rise and fall of the Kings in the OT. Hopefully that is about two mouse clicks away and then lat that on top of the dates starting in 33AD (Passover + 180 days) and take that as being the day of the exit out of Egypt and the years along the way might show an exact same form of fall, only Gentiles can't be exiled out of the nations so there is an alternative, we have to suffer it or change it. Corruption can't exist when a lot of people are talking about it, the news was the first of the conquests so they got to control what gossip got around and what didn't.

If this is a Rothschild project then it isn't over as they have no obvious victory like they did the night the owned England, in one day and nobody said boo, in 1290 England still was able to exile them, now we know why it was for 350 years. Hmmm Have to add that up some day. You know who got left holding the empty loot bag right, their poorer cousins. I'm not thing Bibi is the top of the food chain

Eden was the world and Israel was a fragment in size of the Garden. The Dead Sea was a body of fresh water, the way it was turned into hell is that moisture went away as the ice-caps receded and the brown belt that circles the globe settled in. If somebody is trying to recreate that using the talents we have then it is going to be a gong show (as everything turns out to be anyway) so sit back and enjoy the show while the 'elite' prove they are 'the elite' because of their own opinion of themselves rather than there really being some raw talent there. Add one dash of Murphy and it all goes to hell in a hand-basket, a good time to be watching from the sidelines.

Out of all that the topic I would like to cover is weather pattern in the mid latitudes during the last ice-age. What is that about 3 or 4 posts?

We are entering the winter of our lives.
Ec:12:3:
In the day when the keepers of the house shall tremble,
and the strong men shall bow themselves,
and the grinders cease because they are few,
and those that look out of the windows be darkened,

Do you understand what is actually being said?
 

French Patriot

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Hey French Parrot. Christians have sweet f*ck all use for the OT.

Jesus referenced it often but I agree that the Christians only cherry pick the pasrts they like out of iy. It is part of their hypocrisy.

There is the one exception where they use Eden to help deny women equality.

That is more against women so I am sure you do not care.

Regards
DL

Neither.
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I am surprised you are not offended by Original sin.

Regards
DL

Who was correct, Jews or Christians? Was Eden our elevation or our fall?

[You think one myth is better than another?

Absolutely. Don't you see the differences?

Regards
DL

Jesus' message is clear as a bell and always has been to those who didn't waiver or follow a heretic.

I'm still waiting on your reasoning as to why God is a fiction.

What do you call the energy that turns matter into living self-aware, conscious beings or makes a crystal grow?

God of the Gaps.

Regards
DL
 

EagleSmack

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Sorry, but to quote Lewis Black, "the god of the Jews was a prick." Why? Because they were 10 hairs short of being baboons and needed rules to straighten them out. The OT was written to scare them into submission. That is why it is irrelevant today. They are no longer baboons.

Now lets go smudging!



I am surprised you are not offended by Original sin.

I am surprised you gave me a Neg Rep for my Wildebeests! What do you have against Wildebeests?

Wildebeests are so necessary to the balance of Africa.

Even Hyenas depend on Wildebeests



A wildebeest battles a hyena!



A wildebeest and hyena square off!



Alas... a wildebeest succumbs to a hyena attack



But! There is hope!

If they stand together there is hope!



Go on the ATTACK! Turn the tide!

A Wildebeest chases a hyena!

Look!

 

darkbeaver

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Still short of that death thing though.

According to the bible death is the state enjoyed by the act of the souls incarnation into the material of flesh and bone. Life in the flesh is hell to you and I souls dispossessed of heavenly existence in the service of gods natural scientific selection and eternal experimentation with matter.
 

Sal

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No, as one of us perceives it
aaaah, and that of course would be you, lol good thing for me then that you aren't God.
and I don't think you have a clear emough understanding to make an informed choice at the moment.
Sadly,
I am not surprised that you think I do not have a clear understanding... those blinded by the light never do think others have a clear understanding... the fact that you would state such is a clear indication of your lack of knowledge regarding god and his nature
 

MHz

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According to the bible death is the state enjoyed by the act of the souls incarnation into the material of flesh and bone. Life in the flesh is hell to you and I souls dispossessed of heavenly existence in the service of gods natural scientific selection and eternal experimentation with matter.
Not quite.

Ec:9:10:
Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do,
do it with thy might;
for there is no work,
nor device,
nor knowledge,
nor wisdom,
in the grave,
whither thou goest.

aaaah, and that of course would be you, lol good thing for me then that you aren't God.
Sadly,
I am not surprised that you think I do not have a clear understanding... those blinded by the light never do think others have a clear understanding... the fact that you would state such is a clear indication of your lack of knowledge regarding god and his nature
Good thing for both our sakes, I'm quite sure I would be fired within the first hour.
You won't mind the version of the new earth that you are headed for, and if you have some complaints there will be lots of ears around to listen to them. As the page gets crumpled up and put away for good.
 

Sal

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You won't mind the version of the new earth that you are headed for, and if you have some complaints there will be lots of ears around to listen to them. As the page gets crumpled up and put away for good.
oh yeah, and what version will that be, have never heard of the new earth and if I like it, why would I complain? 8O

what page would that be MHz?
 

darkbeaver

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Not quite.

Ec:9:10:
Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do,
do it with thy might;
for there is no work,
nor device,
nor knowledge,
nor wisdom,
in the grave,
whither thou goest.

And here we see the poverty of modern Christianism where on the one hand we have a professed belief in the after life and on the other the professed unbelief of the same. This stems from their conviction that to be sentient requires flesh and bones and that the mind is also a lump of matter.
That stupid author who wrote Ec 9:10 was obviously of the materialist camp. The body is clay only the animating spark is important only that determines you. Only a lazy dreamer could conceive of a respite from work through the expedient of physical death. I don't go to the grave just the clay and dust and goo of my borrowed body lies in that hole.
 
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