Mom of suspected school shooter -- first to die -- was avid gun enthusiast
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Wait....wacko's can still use guns & knives at this point, so they don't have to think
far enough ahead to have much larger body counts. What we're seeing currently
is monstrous enough without too much forthought & creativity on the parts of the
sick people who're shooting children in the schools and such.
far enough ahead to have much larger body counts. What we're seeing currently
is monstrous enough without too much forthought & creativity on the parts of the
sick people who're shooting children in the schools and such.
Did you miss the comma in that line that makes militias and the public inclusive?
Are you trying to infringe on the people's right to bear arms? It's their arms, they can do what they like with them and it's no businesse of the meddlers like you and some freak cult to tell them what to do with the arms they bear.
The options are limitless.
Then how come I can create and contract out my own cops if I wanted?
Who protects the people against a Prez that could go haywire and uses the military to do his bidding?
The fire dept?
Who protects the people against a Prez that could go haywire and uses the military to do his bidding?
The fire dept?
Because they are licensed and accountable, just like they can drive emergency vehicles and the average Joe can't. Perhaps you could hire them to hunt for you.
Prez gone wild .. come on. That is bogus NRA-think.
Besides, you can defend yourself with all those knives that the NRA keep saying you can use to do the same thing.
The average Joe can. It may have a long time since you've read a driving instruction manual but during an emergency, put on your hazzards and you're off to the races.
NRA thinking? Are there any countries like that today? Would they be that way if the people could fight off the army with knives and spit wads?
What makes you think it can't happen here? We're special?
You guys keep saying how guns don't kill but people do and would do so with knives or something else. Well, if that's the argument, rely on those other things to defend yourself against the President's army.
In the end, the gun lobby wants to make money and will defend itself like big tobacco. It will promote the fear story and do just about anything to make money, while people get murdered and even massacred.
It's time the NRA took some responsibility .. not just defend the right to bear arms but to come up with some solutions to make society a little safer from all the gun violence. Simply telling people to lock them up just isn't working. Their product is a major societal hazard. Pointing to how people thought in the 1700's is not a solution. If they don't find some answers other people will, and those answers might not sit too well with that industry.
to kill someone with a knife is a whole different set of emotions than pointing a gun and pulling a trigger.
a power nut, a sicko, a coward, someone who doesn't want to be seen, a military attack, that
is the clean and easy way to kill and walk away, just pull the trigger, or drop a bomb,one doesn't even have to get one's hands dirty or bloody.
but to actually confront someone with a knife is messy, could backfire, one has to actually do hand to
hand combat, unless stabbing in the back from behind, the attacker could actually get hurt, their
skin could be cut, a gunman is too much of a coward to ever do that.
If a knife attack was that easy, then why are the majority of murders done by 'shooting' someone.
If most people had to kill with a weapon, that one had to actually hit the person with, the number of
murders would be drastically lower.
people who kill others with a gun, would be the same types who would kill with poison, or other such
products that 'they' don't have to be closely a part of,a cowardly way to kill, then slink off and wait
for the person to die.
that certainly would eliminate most killers, who don't want to 'battle' with anyone.
it takes a better person, to stand facing someone eye to eye and challenge them, than some sniffling
coward who only has to point a gun and pull a trigger, not giving the victim any chance at all.
I understand and agree that the laws need to be changed in the u.s., but even if they are, nothing
else will change, it has gone far far too far to backup, and be different.
Just listen to that remark, 'every free man has a right to bare arms', what a insane remark, every
free citizen has the right to live and be safe, and someone packing a gun with killing on their minds, takes
that freedom away from an unarmed citizen.
a power nut, a sicko, a coward, someone who doesn't want to be seen, a military attack, that
is the clean and easy way to kill and walk away, just pull the trigger, or drop a bomb,one doesn't even have to get one's hands dirty or bloody.
but to actually confront someone with a knife is messy, could backfire, one has to actually do hand to
hand combat, unless stabbing in the back from behind, the attacker could actually get hurt, their
skin could be cut, a gunman is too much of a coward to ever do that.
If a knife attack was that easy, then why are the majority of murders done by 'shooting' someone.
If most people had to kill with a weapon, that one had to actually hit the person with, the number of
murders would be drastically lower.
people who kill others with a gun, would be the same types who would kill with poison, or other such
products that 'they' don't have to be closely a part of,a cowardly way to kill, then slink off and wait
for the person to die.
that certainly would eliminate most killers, who don't want to 'battle' with anyone.
it takes a better person, to stand facing someone eye to eye and challenge them, than some sniffling
coward who only has to point a gun and pull a trigger, not giving the victim any chance at all.
I understand and agree that the laws need to be changed in the u.s., but even if they are, nothing
else will change, it has gone far far too far to backup, and be different.
Just listen to that remark, 'every free man has a right to bare arms', what a insane remark, every
free citizen has the right to live and be safe, and someone packing a gun with killing on their minds, takes
that freedom away from an unarmed citizen.
The emotion of killing for the sake of killing has variations?
OI VEY!!!
How many despots are in power today because the people are unarmed? How does all of them sound?
It is econonic destitution and a divided un-armed society that puts despots in power because they know opposition is a non-issue.
Is there economic stability in the US? Are the people united and working for a common goal or is there division amongst the people?
What makes you arrogant enough to think we are immune to martial law and dictatorial leadership in North America? Because we beat Hitler?
OI VEY!!!
Apparently knives don't work or the world would be dictator free.
How many despots are in power today because the people are unarmed? How does all of them sound?
It is econonic destitution and a divided un-armed society that puts despots in power because they know opposition is a non-issue.
Is there economic stability in the US? Are the people united and working for a common goal or is there division amongst the people?
What makes you arrogant enough to think we are immune to martial law and dictatorial leadership in North America? Because we beat Hitler?
We've gone from pro gun/anti gun shoot em out to it is all the fault of liberal loonies. Geezus folks, it's about a bunch of kids dying. Get a freakin' grip! It is not about guns, laws or politics. Its about how so completely screwed up this "civilization" is and all these stupid arguments are never going to make it better. And if you don't think this culture is seriously screwed, just go back and read through this thread.
I read this morning in the paper that the rounds were designed to break apart upon impact and that he had hundreds of rounds. Only the cops showing up stopped it from being a total bloodbath.
Bad enough he murdered kids, but the rounds he used were designed to kill brutally which brings up the question why the HELL does ammo like this need to be in the hands of civilians?
I agree with Cliffy - society is f*ed up if we think that people's rights to shoot others trumps the lives of those around us, especially kids.
Cliffy - miss the back woods yet?
Bad enough he murdered kids, but the rounds he used were designed to kill brutally which brings up the question why the HELL does ammo like this need to be in the hands of civilians?
I agree with Cliffy - society is f*ed up if we think that people's rights to shoot others trumps the lives of those around us, especially kids.
Cliffy - miss the back woods yet?
Let no tragedy go to waste....The motto of Journalists, politicians and ideologues....
Should be the motto of the Brady bunch....or TV news thirty seconds clip stars:roll: like Jessy Jackson.....this one should be a bumper crop for them
Just call me a cynic, deselusioned with ideologues everywhere.....
Should be the motto of the Brady bunch....or TV news thirty seconds clip stars:roll: like Jessy Jackson.....this one should be a bumper crop for them
Just call me a cynic, deselusioned with ideologues everywhere.....
Yeah, I don't know what it's going to take to get people off this gun mentality, it seems to be the new addiction overtaking drugs. Over 2800 died on 9/11 without the use of a single gun. Now if bonafide lunatics could be denied access to guns (which is impossible) the death rate MIGHT drop by 1%. However if street drugs could be banned (probably just as impossible) then the murder rate would plummet.
I dunno....I think the guys flying planes into the Twin Towers were pretty efficient.
As was Tim McVeigh.
As were the guys that blew up Air India.
As were the guys that fire bombed the Blue Bird Cafe, which was the largest mass murder actually in Canada...
Blue Bird Café fire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And the guns are here to stay.
You do understand that the vast majority of ranges are simply a glorified gravel pit, without permanent structures, and without staff??
And why the heck should hunters be punished??? Hunting is an ancient and honourable past time, as old as mankind itself.
There are semi-auto versions of practically every caliber........pistol, rifle or shotgun.
I'm sorry, but your solutions are absolutely unrealistic.
That be fine for you citiots but what about farmers, prospectors and engineers that regularly spend time alone in the bush? Did you know that I can legally pack a handgun working in the bush? Did you know that farmers don't have the same rule re storage of firearms as the rest of us? NOte that none of these groups have any kind of bad track record with their tools. Same goes for target shooters. The criminal acts amoung this group is near zero. The problem is almost completely with the urban crowd and making laws to control them is infringing on the safety and enjoyment of the rest of us.
Yeah, it would be nice if the people who don't know or understand about firearms would keep their mouths shut.