Angry Libyan mob kills U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three diplomates.
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Bah! Memos! I don't read no stinkin' memos.
No one should have to tread carefully in how they express themselves because simply someone might be offended, whether it's likely or not to happen. That's holding people hostage to ones own instability.
To assess the logic of any position, all you have to do is apply that same logic to a different (but similar enough) situation. If the reasoning is sound, it will hold up. If it doesn't hold up, well that says it all doesn't it?
Earlier today, mobs of protesters in Yemen broke out their crazy and attacked the U.S. embassy in Sanaa. Torching cars, smashing the main gates, and tossing rocks while shouting "We sacrifice ourselves for you, Messenger of God." The loons, like the loons who stormed the embassy in Cairo and the U.S. Consulate in Libya, are protesting that same stupid movie.
This is getting repetitive. Running around like loons isn't sacrificing yourself, it's sacrificing your fellow citizens and people by giving others a reason to think you're all in the crazy pot together.
If you REALLY want to sacrifice yourself, find the nearest cliff and take a flying leap.
This is getting repetitive. Running around like loons isn't sacrificing yourself, it's sacrificing your fellow citizens and people by giving others a reason to think you're all in the crazy pot together.
If you REALLY want to sacrifice yourself, find the nearest cliff and take a flying leap.
State Dept 'had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged consulate in Benghazi'...
Exclusive: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'
The killings of the US ambassador to Libya and three of his staff were likely to have been the result of a serious and continuing security breach, The Independent can reveal.
American officials believe the attack was planned, but Chris Stevens had been back in the country only a short while and the details of his visit to Benghazi, where he and his staff died, were meant to be confidential.
The US administration is now facing a crisis in Libya. Sensitive documents have gone missing from the consulate in Benghazi and the supposedly secret location of the "safe house" in the city, where the staff had retreated, came under sustained mortar attack. Other such refuges across the country are no longer deemed "safe".
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Bull crap. Murder because someone poked fun at your favorite myth is over the top.If they don't like it they don't have to watch the movie. You are taking political correctness too far.
MAking a movie that some terrorist in a foreign country does not like is not a crime. Murdering people because you think your god is better than theirs is.
Today there was a huge pro USA rally:
Libya - Imgur
Naturally, the news media ignored it in tonight's news.
Wow, looks like this is more and more a "done on purpose" thing after all.
News from The Associated Press
Yeah, he should be held accountable. What crime? Don't know, not a lawyer. Punishment? Not sure, but I still think that he did it on purpose and as such, he should be held somehow accountable. And where have I said any form of punishment should be only for those who offend muslims and muslims only? Sorry, didn't say that; discussing my opinions on other religions would be another topic entirely.
Oh please, spousal abuse is not a comparison to this at all. If you're going to throw out crap analogies, don't expect a reply.
BS it's not about sides; when it comes to that part of the world, it's a total "us vs them" thing, so yes, it is about sides. I do agree blame belongs to the people who perpetuated the violence and I hope that they're punished for whatever involvements they've had in the deaths of the innocents. BUT, again, if this "director" had not made this film with the sole purpose of infuriating the muslims, then it wouldn't have happened to begin with. It's not like we don't KNOW how they get in the Middle East when you say anything bad about their prophet. This idiot is just as blame worthy as the ones who caused the violence.
Murder because someone pokes fun at a myth is over the top, I agree and if this were the case, I'd be all for seeing what's due go to the people who caused the crime. When that someone does so ON PURPOSE KNOWING the reaction will lead to violence is a whole other story. They don't have to watch it; soon as it's known, to them, it's "kill the heretics!" As for being PC, please. I hate the whole political correctness BS and wish it was done away with. My opinion has nothing to do with or is anything about being PC, it's about being sick and bloody tired of all this violence done to innocents because some dipstick has to go and jab the wasp nest just a little more to prove the Muslims are fking nuts.
Nope, not a crime, agreed. Murdering people because you think your god is better than theirs is, again I agree.
Neither of these address the point.
News from The Associated Press
Yeah, he should be held accountable. What crime? Don't know, not a lawyer. Punishment? Not sure, but I still think that he did it on purpose and as such, he should be held somehow accountable. And where have I said any form of punishment should be only for those who offend muslims and muslims only? Sorry, didn't say that; discussing my opinions on other religions would be another topic entirely.
Oh please, spousal abuse is not a comparison to this at all. If you're going to throw out crap analogies, don't expect a reply.
BS it's not about sides; when it comes to that part of the world, it's a total "us vs them" thing, so yes, it is about sides. I do agree blame belongs to the people who perpetuated the violence and I hope that they're punished for whatever involvements they've had in the deaths of the innocents. BUT, again, if this "director" had not made this film with the sole purpose of infuriating the muslims, then it wouldn't have happened to begin with. It's not like we don't KNOW how they get in the Middle East when you say anything bad about their prophet. This idiot is just as blame worthy as the ones who caused the violence.
Murder because someone pokes fun at a myth is over the top, I agree and if this were the case, I'd be all for seeing what's due go to the people who caused the crime. When that someone does so ON PURPOSE KNOWING the reaction will lead to violence is a whole other story. They don't have to watch it; soon as it's known, to them, it's "kill the heretics!" As for being PC, please. I hate the whole political correctness BS and wish it was done away with. My opinion has nothing to do with or is anything about being PC, it's about being sick and bloody tired of all this violence done to innocents because some dipstick has to go and jab the wasp nest just a little more to prove the Muslims are fking nuts.
Nope, not a crime, agreed. Murdering people because you think your god is better than theirs is, again I agree.
Neither of these address the point.
15 Photos Of Libyans Apologizing To Americans
15 Photos Of Libyans Apologizing To Americans
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The 9/11 attacks on the US embassies were not about a movie
Here are a couple of facts:
On June 4 the White House confirmed that the US had killed Abu Yahya Al-Libi - OBL's Libyan lietenant who had moved into Al Qaeda's #2 spot after Ayman Zahawiri after the Navy SEALs whacked OBL.
On Tuesday 9/11, a tape was released of Zawahiri announcing that Libi had been killed earlier this year by a US drone attack. The Zawahiri tape was made during Ramadan which ended in the middle of last month. Zawahiri called for his terrorist underlings to avenge Libi's death and especially exhorted Libyans to take revenge.
The attack in Libya was well planned and executed. It wasn't about a spontaneous protest against some ridiculous internet movie of Muhammad. The assailants came armed to the teeth, with among other things, RPG 7s. They knew that the US Ambassador was in Benghazi rather than Tripoli. They knew how to track his movements, and were able to strike against him after he and his colleagues left the consulate building and tried to flee in a car. As Israel Channel 2's Arab Affairs Correspondent Ehud Yaari noted this evening, you don't often see well trained terrorists participating in protests of movies.
Then there is the attack in Cairo. They were led by Mohammad Zawahiri - Ayman Zawahiri's brother. According the Thomas Josclyn in the Weekly Standard, the US media has been idiotically presenting him as some sort of moderate despite the fact that in an interview with Al Jazeerah he said said, "We in al Qaeda..."
Egypt's US supported Muslim Brotherhood President Mohamed Morsi recently released Zawahiri from Egyptian prison. The same Barack Obama who has no time in his schedule to meet with Prime Minister Netanyahu next week in New York, is scheduled to meet Morsi.
The Egyptian government has not condemned the attack on the US Embassy in Cairo. But Morsi is demanding that the US government prosecute the film's creator.
You may be wondering how some movie no one's heard of has caused such a hullabaloo. Well, as it turns out, the film was screened on an Egyptian Salafist television channel. Obviously the Salafists -- many of whom, like Zawahiri were released from prison by Morsi, wanted to stir up anti-US violence on the eve of 9/11. So if the film is responsible for the violence, a finger needs to be pointed to its chief distributor -- Al Qaida's Egyptian friends and members.
With these facts in hand, it is clear that the attempts to present these acts of war against the US as the consequence of some stupid nothing movie are obscene attempts to deflect the blame for these unwarranted attacks onto their victims and away from their perpetrators.
http://www.carolineglick.com/e/2012/09/the-911-attacks-on-the-us-emba.php
h/t sda
15 Photos Of Libyans Apologizing To Americans
and...
The 9/11 attacks on the US embassies were not about a movie
Here are a couple of facts:
On June 4 the White House confirmed that the US had killed Abu Yahya Al-Libi - OBL's Libyan lietenant who had moved into Al Qaeda's #2 spot after Ayman Zahawiri after the Navy SEALs whacked OBL.
On Tuesday 9/11, a tape was released of Zawahiri announcing that Libi had been killed earlier this year by a US drone attack. The Zawahiri tape was made during Ramadan which ended in the middle of last month. Zawahiri called for his terrorist underlings to avenge Libi's death and especially exhorted Libyans to take revenge.
The attack in Libya was well planned and executed. It wasn't about a spontaneous protest against some ridiculous internet movie of Muhammad. The assailants came armed to the teeth, with among other things, RPG 7s. They knew that the US Ambassador was in Benghazi rather than Tripoli. They knew how to track his movements, and were able to strike against him after he and his colleagues left the consulate building and tried to flee in a car. As Israel Channel 2's Arab Affairs Correspondent Ehud Yaari noted this evening, you don't often see well trained terrorists participating in protests of movies.
Then there is the attack in Cairo. They were led by Mohammad Zawahiri - Ayman Zawahiri's brother. According the Thomas Josclyn in the Weekly Standard, the US media has been idiotically presenting him as some sort of moderate despite the fact that in an interview with Al Jazeerah he said said, "We in al Qaeda..."
Egypt's US supported Muslim Brotherhood President Mohamed Morsi recently released Zawahiri from Egyptian prison. The same Barack Obama who has no time in his schedule to meet with Prime Minister Netanyahu next week in New York, is scheduled to meet Morsi.
The Egyptian government has not condemned the attack on the US Embassy in Cairo. But Morsi is demanding that the US government prosecute the film's creator.
You may be wondering how some movie no one's heard of has caused such a hullabaloo. Well, as it turns out, the film was screened on an Egyptian Salafist television channel. Obviously the Salafists -- many of whom, like Zawahiri were released from prison by Morsi, wanted to stir up anti-US violence on the eve of 9/11. So if the film is responsible for the violence, a finger needs to be pointed to its chief distributor -- Al Qaida's Egyptian friends and members.
With these facts in hand, it is clear that the attempts to present these acts of war against the US as the consequence of some stupid nothing movie are obscene attempts to deflect the blame for these unwarranted attacks onto their victims and away from their perpetrators.
http://www.carolineglick.com/e/2012/09/the-911-attacks-on-the-us-emba.php
h/t sda
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You don't know? Newsflash... it is NOT a crime. Not at all. He can make whatever movie he wants. Nobody has the right to punish this guy for making this dumb movie.
BTW... have you seen the trailer? It is one of the most idiotic movies I've ever seen. And the ME went bonkers over it.
I can see why you wouldn't want to reply. SLM was right on target.
Blaming the victims again I see. The US had nothing to do with this movie. Nothing at all.
U.S. Consulate Attack in Libya Said Twin Operation | World | TIME.com
(BENGHAZI, Libya) — Heavily armed militants used a protest of an anti-Islam film as a cover and may have had help from inside Libyan security in their deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate, a senior Libyan official said Thursday.
As Libya announced the first four arrests, the clearest picture yet emerged of a two-pronged assault with militants screaming “God is great!” as they scaled the consulate’s outer walls and descended on the compound’s main building.
The rampage killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans.
Eastern Libya’s deputy interior minister, Wanis el-Sharef, said a mob first stormed the consulate Tuesday night and then, hours later, raided a safe house in the compound just as U.S. and Libyan security arrived to evacuate the staff. That suggested, el-Sharef said, that infiltrators within the security forces may have tipped off the militants to the safe house’s location.
The attacks were suspected to have been timed to coincide with the 11th anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist strike in the United States, el-Sharef added, with the militants using the film protest by Libyan civilians to mask their action.
Killed in the attack were U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens, information management officer Sean Smith, and private security guards Glen Doherty and Tyrone S. Woods.
El-Sharef said four people were arrested at their homes Thursday, but he refused to give any further details. He said it was too early to say if the suspects belonged to a particular group or what their motive was. Libya’s new prime minister, Mustafa Abu-Shakour, said authorities were looking for more suspects.
(BENGHAZI, Libya) — Heavily armed militants used a protest of an anti-Islam film as a cover and may have had help from inside Libyan security in their deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate, a senior Libyan official said Thursday.
As Libya announced the first four arrests, the clearest picture yet emerged of a two-pronged assault with militants screaming “God is great!” as they scaled the consulate’s outer walls and descended on the compound’s main building.
The rampage killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans.
Eastern Libya’s deputy interior minister, Wanis el-Sharef, said a mob first stormed the consulate Tuesday night and then, hours later, raided a safe house in the compound just as U.S. and Libyan security arrived to evacuate the staff. That suggested, el-Sharef said, that infiltrators within the security forces may have tipped off the militants to the safe house’s location.
The attacks were suspected to have been timed to coincide with the 11th anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist strike in the United States, el-Sharef added, with the militants using the film protest by Libyan civilians to mask their action.
Killed in the attack were U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens, information management officer Sean Smith, and private security guards Glen Doherty and Tyrone S. Woods.
El-Sharef said four people were arrested at their homes Thursday, but he refused to give any further details. He said it was too early to say if the suspects belonged to a particular group or what their motive was. Libya’s new prime minister, Mustafa Abu-Shakour, said authorities were looking for more suspects.
I detest violence... especially when directed at diplomats. At least 13 people died in this attack. I fail to see the point of it.
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The terrorists that you continually support are making a statement. That being that they will murder anyone that does not comply with their theocracy.
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The question that I have can this film maker be charged for inciting a riot causing deaths??
Most people understand that Muslims are an unstable people, why poke a stick at the problem when everyone know they are nuts.
What's happening in the Middle East just shows what a farce their religion of peace is.. LOL
The question that I have can this film maker be charged for inciting a riot causing deaths??
Most people understand that Muslims are an unstable people, why poke a stick at the problem when everyone know they are nuts.
What's happening in the Middle East just shows what a farce their religion of peace is.. LOL