Angry Libyan mob kills U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three diplomates.

earth_as_one

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The chill of the Arab Winter is deepening. If they don't turn over the body the desert should be made into glass.



...Libyan security guards were killed and wounded trying to defend US Ambassador Chris Stevens during the attack in Benghazi in which the US diplomat died, a Libyan UN envoy said Wednesday.

Ibrahim Dabbashi, Libya's deputy UN ambassador, told reporters that up to 10 Libyan security personnel were casualties of the attack on Tuesday. "Some of them have been killed at the start of the attack," he said.

UN Assistant Secretary General Jeffrey Feltman told the UN Security Council he had "seen reports that Libyan security personnel were also killed" in the attack.....

Lebanon news - NOW Lebanon -Libyan guards killed in US consulate attack

Libyan Reaction:
 

Colpy

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The problem with religions of any sort is that far too many people take ancient scriptures seriously, despite the fact that much of what was written hundreds or even thousands of years ago is hopelessly out of date and in many cases completely irrelevant. Moderate Muslims, moderate Christians, moderate Hindus, and so on, are those who are capable of filtering out the nonsense and using these ancient texts as guides to morality rather than absolute truths that must be mindlessly obeyed.

The incidents in Egypt and Libya were generated by mindless Christians who went out of their way to generate a response from equally mindless Muslims. Unfortunately, they succeeded all too well to the detriment of the innocent embassy staff in Tripoli.

Relativism is just so stupid.

How many anti-Christian films have you seen? How many times have you heard of "artistic" displays such as the Piss Christ (a crucifix floating in urine) the equivalent??

How many cartoons of Christ doing whatever? How many posters??

How many dead in the ensuing Christian riots??

Hmmmmmm.

Islam is evil.
 

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Drones? Killer bees?

Our new secret weapon. :)

You get laughed at in America for defending your faith. That is far far far more evil.

It's spreading. Yemen and Egpyt US Embassies were recently attacked too.

More U.S. diplomatic missions attacked as anger spreads | CTVNews

Yeah... it goes in spurts. Like in 1979. The Iranians took the US Embassy and the embassies were burned down in Pakistan and Libya shortly after.


All this over a Youtube clip. Idiots.
 

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There are a lot of unhappy Islamic youth in North Africa, Mid-east, Indian sub continent, Malaysia etc

It's time to stop backing the Brotherhood and set these kids free already.

Perhaps, with first hand experience, they think that good al Qaeda isn't as good as we make them out to be and they are done with it?
 

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I think a lot of people are looking at the result - the burning of the embassies, killing of diplomats - and forgetting the reason.

To me, the reason is that some moron willfully and with total disregard to anyone's life made a movie that was questionable about the Islamic Prophet.

It doesn't matter that Christians have had movies made to poke fun of Jesus; that's not the point. The most anyone's going to get is the crazy right protest, bitch, moan and complain and that's it. Maybe a lunatic crackpot break open his weapons and kill someone, but that would be rare.

The point is this guy knew there would be a reaction - likely negative - and did not give two fks about it.

Honestly, I'm sick of innocent people paying for the stupidity of others with their lives. To me this "director" on purpose made this movie for the precise reason to stir the crap-pot the Middle East is in, cause chaos all to prove that "Islam is Evil". Whether it's Evil or not is moot, the fact he provoked this is worse, it's totally despicable and inhumane.

I think by now the world - those who aren't Muslim - "know" that the life of Muhammad is questionable. So there's no need, at all, for films, books and so on to be done when the reaction is this overreactive.

It's like poking a chained, rabid dog. Poke it enough in it's insanity it will break free somehow and bite the holy hell out of you and you get rabies. Guess what, it's your fault, AND it's your fault that the dog goes on to bite others. And if one person dies of it, you're the dipstick who should be held accountable.

So should this guy.

(I'm not saying the reactions of the people should be ignored - hell, they need to be dealt with ASAP; what happened was just as stupid as the film itself, just as despicable, just as thoughtless. But truthfully, come on, there's no such thing as "We didn't know they'd react like that" when it comes to Islam.)
 

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This attack was not by an angry Libyan mob. This attack appears to be highly coordinated and well planned. The small group of armed militants/terrorists/thugs knew what they were doing.

Piecing together reports from various sources, it appears that Libyan security forces and police tasked with guarding the US Consulate were attacked without warning. The killers then attacked the consulate. The US ambassador and other diplomats tried to flee but their car was hit by an RPG. Libyan security forces counter attacked and attempted to rescue the Ambassador, but by the time they got him to the hospital, he had succumbed to his injuries. The killers then set the consulate on fire and fled.
 

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I think a lot of people are looking at the result - the burning of the embassies, killing of diplomats - and forgetting the reason.

To me, the reason is that some moron willfully and with total disregard to anyone's life made a movie that was questionable about the Islamic Prophet.

It doesn't matter that Christians have had movies made to poke fun of Jesus; that's not the point. The most anyone's going to get is the crazy right protest, bitch, moan and complain and that's it. Maybe a lunatic crackpot break open his weapons and kill someone, but that would be rare.

The point is this guy knew there would be a reaction - likely negative - and did not give two fks about it.

Honestly, I'm sick of innocent people paying for the stupidity of others with their lives. To me this "director" on purpose made this movie for the precise reason to stir the crap-pot the Middle East is in, cause chaos all to prove that "Islam is Evil". Whether it's Evil or not is moot, the fact he provoked this is worse, it's totally despicable and inhumane.

I think by now the world - those who aren't Muslim - "know" that the life of Muhammad is questionable. So there's no need, at all, for films, books and so on to be done when the reaction is this overreactive.

It's like poking a chained, rabid dog. Poke it enough in it's insanity it will break free somehow and bite the holy hell out of you and you get rabies. Guess what, it's your fault, AND it's your fault that the dog goes on to bite others. And if one person dies of it, you're the dipstick who should be held accountable.

So should this guy.

(I'm not saying the reactions of the people should be ignored - hell, they need to be dealt with ASAP; what happened was just as stupid as the film itself, just as despicable, just as thoughtless. But truthfully, come on, there's no such thing as "We didn't know they'd react like that" when it comes to Islam.)
The Islamists need to grow a spine if they can't take someone poking fun at them.
 

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I think a lot of people are looking at the result - the burning of the embassies, killing of diplomats - and forgetting the reason.

To me, the reason is that some moron willfully and with total disregard to anyone's life made a movie that was questionable about the Islamic Prophet.

It doesn't matter that Christians have had movies made to poke fun of Jesus; that's not the point. The most anyone's going to get is the crazy right protest, bitch, moan and complain and that's it. Maybe a lunatic crackpot break open his weapons and kill someone, but that would be rare.

The point is this guy knew there would be a reaction - likely negative - and did not give two fks about it.

Honestly, I'm sick of innocent people paying for the stupidity of others with their lives. To me this "director" on purpose made this movie for the precise reason to stir the crap-pot the Middle East is in, cause chaos all to prove that "Islam is Evil". Whether it's Evil or not is moot, the fact he provoked this is worse, it's totally despicable and inhumane.

I think by now the world - those who aren't Muslim - "know" that the life of Muhammad is questionable. So there's no need, at all, for films, books and so on to be done when the reaction is this overreactive.

It's like poking a chained, rabid dog. Poke it enough in it's insanity it will break free somehow and bite the holy hell out of you and you get rabies. Guess what, it's your fault, AND it's your fault that the dog goes on to bite others. And if one person dies of it, you're the dipstick who should be held accountable.

So should this guy.

(I'm not saying the reactions of the people should be ignored - hell, they need to be dealt with ASAP; what happened was just as stupid as the film itself, just as despicable, just as thoughtless. But truthfully, come on, there's no such thing as "We didn't know they'd react like that" when it comes to Islam.)

Sooooo....we should modify our behaviour, avoid speaking truth, because the mad dogs might not like it.

Listen to yourself.
 

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History will also tell you that Christianity will lash out through conversion by conquest. Central and South America wasn't Christian until after it was conquered by the Spanish and Portuguese. The Spanish Inquisition is another example of violent forced conversion to Christianity.

Yeah, and we used to drill holes into people's heads to cure back aches. It's the 21st century, get over it.
 

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I think a lot of people are looking at the result - the burning of the embassies, killing of diplomats - and forgetting the reason.

To me, the reason is that some moron willfully and with total disregard to anyone's life made a movie that was questionable about the Islamic Prophet.

It doesn't matter that Christians have had movies made to poke fun of Jesus; that's not the point. The most anyone's going to get is the crazy right protest, bitch, moan and complain and that's it. Maybe a lunatic crackpot break open his weapons and kill someone, but that would be rare.

The point is this guy knew there would be a reaction - likely negative - and did not give two fks about it.

Honestly, I'm sick of innocent people paying for the stupidity of others with their lives. To me this "director" on purpose made this movie for the precise reason to stir the crap-pot the Middle East is in, cause chaos all to prove that "Islam is Evil". Whether it's Evil or not is moot, the fact he provoked this is worse, it's totally despicable and inhumane.

I think by now the world - those who aren't Muslim - "know" that the life of Muhammad is questionable. So there's no need, at all, for films, books and so on to be done when the reaction is this overreactive.

It's like poking a chained, rabid dog. Poke it enough in it's insanity it will break free somehow and bite the holy hell out of you and you get rabies. Guess what, it's your fault, AND it's your fault that the dog goes on to bite others. And if one person dies of it, you're the dipstick who should be held accountable.

So should this guy.

(I'm not saying the reactions of the people should be ignored - hell, they need to be dealt with ASAP; what happened was just as stupid as the film itself, just as despicable, just as thoughtless. But truthfully, come on, there's no such thing as "We didn't know they'd react like that" when it comes to Islam.)


I have got to disagree with you there. Giving in to the anticipation of an angry mob before it becomes an angry mob is a really dangerous precendent to set. Censorship is not the answer to peace on earth. You cannot conduct your behaviour based solely on the reactions of others. If you do, it's no different than a parent giving in to a child having a temper tantrum, there is absolutely no growth that will ever happen as a result of letting that be your guiding philosophy.
 

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The Islamists need to grow a spine if they can't take someone poking fun at them.

You illeterate twit, of course they are invertebrates, we have seen them drive cars, stop beleiving the anti islamist propaganda, these are not clams were fighting Walter.


Yeah, and we used to drill holes into people's heads to cure back aches. It's the 21st century, get over it.

What is so special about the twenty first century? Which parts do you like the best, the genocide, the mass murder, starvation maybe, or maybe even the rampant religious delusion. Yeah the twenty first sure changed a lot of stuff eh. You need some coffee and maybe a joint if yer mum ain't watchin to closely.
 

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You are slowly coming around ES. You peepil lives in ZUSA now yus like us up here in Zanada. What makes you think you could be right now,right now. When you know tomorrow you will remember being wrong yesterday, like you did today.

Oh brother.
 

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All this over a Youtube clip. Idiots.

I don't buy the "offended by a video" story for one second. This was a planned attack, the video was just an excuse they pulled out of their back pockets to rally up a crowd as cover for the sophisticated Al Qaeda operatives to do their thing. Also, of course, to make themselves the victims. And it worked. They got the embassy, the president, and the Sec. State to apologize for being brutally attacked.