Yes. I understand that our human language may not suffice, but it's simply not possible for one being to be made of three separate beings. Unless god is made by Hasbro...even then not possible. It's curious language to use.
The trinity is a misreading of something. There were 3 witnesses to the beginning of creation, two are mentioned in Ge:1 and the other is in Proverbs 8. The heavenly version of the earthly family involves 3 separate beings, if you need to envision God and the Holy Spirit having parents just like Jesus and the beloved disciple do, then do it and see if the verse below can be used to describe their Son who was the 'speaker of God's thoughts' at the moment men heard the 'Word' through Jesus.
1Jo:5:7:
For there are three that bear record in heaven,
the Father,
the Word,
and the Holy Ghost:
and these three are one.
Back to what is written. The section below references a beginning, that should be the one in Ge:1:1 rather than the beginning in Ge:2 that starts with Adam being alive so plants will grow. At that time God's thoughts were spoken by God himself and the manifestation of those words was by the 'individual' known as the Holy Ghost. Someplace in the future all of mankind will be a city called New Jerusalem in a place called the New Earth. If the trinity is a false teaching there should be 3 there, there will be God and the Lamb on the Throne, that is only two. Would the verse below give the throne a 'voice of it's own'? Would more verses after that one help to show you the Bible's perspective on how the 3 interact. Like Jesus 'learning' by being shown some things (like how to raise a dead body) and being specific speeches to give as directed by God. If out Law is an example the Jesus going to the grave to retrieve mankind made Him a 'owner', just like an first born son is to a family on earth.
Re:4:5:
And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices:
and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne,
which are the seven Spirits of God.
Instead of the interacting verses let's go with this instead. One of the prophecies about the end days is a warning in the Gospels about seeing an abomination that Daniel mentioned. Daniel mentioned more than one abomination, the one in the 70 weeks prophecy is fulfilled so the one in Da:11 is the one being referenced. At that time a 'sin that reaches into heaven is committed. That sin is Satan and Co. putting a throne on holy ground in Jerusalem and claiming that God is there. That would seem to make the Throne (Holy Spirit) more important than anything else, no exceptions.
Christ also shows progression in 'ageing' unless you can imagine the one speaking in Proverbs 8 has the appearance of Jesus as given in the vision on the mountain and in Revelation 1.
Joh:5:19:
Then answered Jesus and said unto them,
Verily,
verily,
I say unto you,
The Son can do nothing of himself,
but what he seeth the Father do:
for what things soever he doeth,
these also doeth the Son likewise.
One final point on the trinity, the verse below was made by John the Baptist and that means a person who was equal to all OT Prophets in that God called them to service, rather than Jesus as was the case for Peter and Paul. As such the description fort who called him and sent him would be about God and the Holy Spirit. Jesus is not mentioned in this chapter until 'the Light' is mentioned.
Joh:1:1:
In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
Joh:1:2:
The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh:1:3:
All things were made by him;
and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh:1:4:
In him was life;
and the life was the light of men.
Joh:1:5:
And the light shineth in darkness;
and the darkness comprehended it not.
Joh:1:6:
There was a man sent from God,
whose name was John.
In the above the light was the Holy Spirit setting up the end of the 1st day of creation. God said, and the Spirit made it real, even for men, life and death was via the Holy Spirit.
Ge:2:7:
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and man became a living soul.
Ec:3:20:
All go unto one place;
all are of the dust,
and all turn to dust again.
Ec:12:7:
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was:
and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
The above is an example of 2 of 3 working together independently of the 3rd, that cannot happen in a trinity where all 3 are God at the same time, all the time. When a record developes a scratch and starts looping do you consider that an improvement over the original?
