What would YOU want to hear at church?
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I agree with you. That's the limitation of internet forums. The apostle James wrote, "But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works."
Any one who interacts socially is definitely trying to impress and all well adjusted people chose popularity.
The pursuit of popularity is a sad and shallow definition of social interaction that is "well-adjusted." I suspect you don't actually mean that. You're saying that well-adjusted people don't have any foundation outside of whatever culture they happen to be a part of?
Do you put your best foot forward or not? Jesus is purported to have impressed people with his kindness he was popular because of it. Wanting to impress people and be popular is not wrong. The methods of course are open to dispute. I don't think you're doing anything wrong fighting for what you believe in.
Hi,
You are right that wanting to impress people isn't always wrong. But it isn't always right. I.E., it's not the foundation upon which Jesus based decisions on how to act.
For example, you are aware that many times He did not impress people at all. Sometimes the entire crowd left him, with only a few remaining, and to these He asked, "will you also leave?"
It certainly wasn't for popularity that the Jews clamored to have Him crucified.
Regards.
Or God could just create a day with heavy cloud cover (to block seeing the real sun) and the 'lowered' the same light that would be the 'star of Bethlehem' to hover over the city for the afternoon creating the 'illusion' that the sun was standing still.
lol It's also hard to take anyone seriously if they say that Christianity is the only true religion and that their god is the only true god. Especially if you consider the source of this info.
I am the only REAL god around and I am that because I say so, sort of thing.
Baloney. Some people just like to gab, some just like to share info, etc.
I think some people choose accuracy in truth. I much prefer to be accurate than popular myself.
Sure, god could do anything, create any illusion utterly convincingly and nobody would ever know the difference and what the Hell would that do except lead to the conclusion that everything might be some divine illusion and none of what we think we understand about anything is correct? There's the death of reason and evidence for you. But that's clearly not what the text of Joshua says, it says the sun and moon stood still for about a full day. Either this stuff is literally true or it's not, you don't get to make things up like freezing rain in the flood story and artificial lighting in this one when the literalist understanding is challenged.
I have no idea if you have a bible kicking around, but I challenge you to put aside your preconceived notions that the bible is written without divine inspiration, that it's corrupted from the original, that it's a concoction of pagan beliefs, and read it with the notion in your heart that "this could be true". It's called having an open mind. If you do read it with an open mind, you will find that God will "become alive" or in other words, reveal himself to you. That's what the bible is, it's God's personal message to Les.
But the Htz dude has a very active imagination and that would account for his very eclectic interpretation of the bible. He just makes sh!t up to fit his fanciful version.
There is this wild eyed ex-physicist who hangs out in the coffee shop I haunt. He writes tiny notes in the margins of a bible. He is correcting the multitude of mistranslations he finds in the book. He claims to be divinely inspired to do so. He was also diagnosed as schizophrenic.
You will note that Htz and adapted both claim they believe in the literal words of the bible but both have very different version.
Reading with a notion "this could be true" is reading with a preconceived notion. You have much to learn about "open-mindedness"
Oh, I can't wait, I can't wait!
He has a lot to learn about a lot of things, but alas, I fear the worst.
The personal message thing....
Oh well, we can see preconception in action in the way Alley cherrypicks his quotes. It'll take him four or five days to get that far for the rebuttal anyhow....
"It could be true" or "it might be false". There's no in between answer! If you hold some of it to be true, but not all of it, who's really "cherry-picking" verses? You!
There's too much content to reply to! I'm still on page seven I think! Argh! :lol: