Should the government ban Marijuana

YoungJoonKim

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I hate teenagers and their marijuana
I hate all teenagers, cuz they steal my store stuff.
Wtf is wrong with these morons?
 

Stretch

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I hate teenagers and their marijuana
I hate all teenagers, cuz they steal my store stuff.
Wtf is wrong with these morons?
our ability, as parents and teachers, to teach these kids to have respect for others and property has been taken away from us by bleeding heart groups and institutions and termed child abuse. So now the govs spend millions of our hard earned trying to figer out what the hell is wrong with todays youth and they have also allowed big pharma to come up with diseases that dont exist and allow doctors to prescribe mind altering substances for these imaginary diseases, when a couple of swift kicks to the arse at an early age would've sufficed.
just my 2 cents worth...................
 

Cliffy

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Yup. Outlawing corporal punishment was pretty short sighted. Now kids don't even respect their parents. Spank your kid, kid turns you in, you go to jail. Stupid kid doesn't realize they will end up in foster homes and situations that make their family look like saints. Most Psychologists get into it because they know they are screwed up, they study for ages to figure out what is wrong with them using text based on the rantings of a coke addict. Then they have to pay off their massive student loans and so have to hang up a shingle and proceed to screw up anybody desperate enough to walk into their office and charging them a minor fortune to do it.
 

AnnaG

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Yup. Beat em till they are good. Don't bother thinking about better ways.
 

Johnnny

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1. If marijuana is legal, will you somke that? I already do sometimes
2. Do you have any friends somke marijuana? Yes
3. Do you think which is better between cigarette and marijuana? Cigarettes give you cancer, marijuana gives you chronic bronchitis
4. Do you agree marijuana should be legal? I dont know why it isnt, the government should start taxing growers
5. Should the government control the quantity of the marijuana? No

Was english your first language>?
 

Cliffy

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Yup. Beat em till they are good. Don't bother thinking about better ways.
Yes, Anna, there are people who abuse corporal punishment, that is why it has been outlawed. But spanking has its place in any disciplinary regime but should only be administered once tempers have subsided and a logical explanation administered. Used wisely and sparingly, it will not lead to angry lashing out at a child in frustration, like my ex used to do.
 

AnnaG

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Yes, Anna, there are people who abuse corporal punishment, that is why it has been outlawed. But spanking has its place in any disciplinary regime but should only be administered once tempers have subsided and a logical explanation administered. Used wisely and sparingly, it will not lead to angry lashing out at a child in frustration, like my ex used to do.
Study after study has shown what works the best: Reinforcement and Punishment in Psychology 101 at AllPsych Online
 

Cliffy

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I have no doubt that it is the better way to raise a child. In a perfect world, I would agree with it. But children are not dogs and most parents never grew up themselves. Many become parents by accident or should not be reproducing in the first place. It is too bad that there is formal training required. But then people would scream "Nanny State". This is far too complicated an issue to say that one solution would solve all problems. With ADS and ADD and other psychological problems becoming prevalent because of various environmental problems, sometimes we need to look at a gamut of solutions, too numerous to look at here.

Sorry to side track this thread.
 

AnnaG

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I have no doubt that it is the better way to raise a child. In a perfect world, I would agree with it. But children are not dogs and most parents never grew up themselves.
Yeah. I wouldn't hit either of my dogs either.
Many become parents by accident or should not be reproducing in the first place. It is too bad that there is formal training required. But then people would scream "Nanny State". This is far too complicated an issue to say that one solution would solve all problems. With ADS and ADD and other psychological problems becoming prevalent because of various environmental problems, sometimes we need to look at a gamut of solutions, too numerous to look at here.
Yup. It's too tough a issue, best just to stick with beating them.

Sorry to side track this thread.
Me, too.
 

JLM

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Yup. Beat em till they are good. Don't bother thinking about better ways.

Beating is not necessarily the best way to guarantee good behaviour, but the fear of a beating worked well with me and I guess to instill that fear you have to deliver once in a blue moon. :smile:

you use the term "beat" like its a bad thing...........:lol:

"A good sound thrashing" was the term often used around our house. :lol:
 

AnnaG

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Funny. Our youngest is by far the most outspoken, rebellious, practical joker of the two and she's the only one that ever got a smack. Les thwacked her padded (she was about 2 and wearing a diaper) with the back of his hand to get her attention. It wasn't even hard enough to make her fall. The rest of the time we used positive reinforcement and negative punishment. IOW, reward for good behavior and retraction of privilege for bad and always explained stuff.
 

JLM

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Funny. Our youngest is by far the most outspoken, rebellious, practical joker of the two and she's the only one that ever got a smack. Les thwacked her padded (she was about 2 and wearing a diaper) with the back of his hand to get her attention. It wasn't even hard enough to make her fall. The rest of the time we used positive reinforcement and negative punishment. IOW, reward for good behavior and retraction of privilege for bad and always explained stuff.

In this day and age I think that is the wisest way to go. When I was growing up of course, that wouldn't work at all because as kids we didn't have privileges, (well that's not quite true either, if we did all our chores we got to eat)
 

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Better question, would marijuana be as popular if it was legal? The forbidden fruit isn't forbidden anymore. Countries that have legalized it are backing off now, is there something about it we do not know?

I'd still smoke it if it was legal.... I'm not some friggin 13 year old kid trying to impress his friends.

No, smoking causes cancer, marijuana is no exception.

Prove that claim, cuz there has yet to be any reported deaths attributed directly to the use of marijuana, including cancer..... in fact, there's plenty of studies out there that show it can help cancer patients in a string of ways.

The only reason why some countries are re-thinking their legalization of marijuana is because of all the idiot tourists from other countries who come to their country and cause all sorts of crap and act like idiots.

No question about it, but who is paying for their hospitalization, we are.

And so are they by paying their taxes just like you...... what was your point again?

You may break your back or get brain injury from climbing a mountain or sky diving or from how you conduct yourself at work, or doing something I personally would consider quite stupid...... I can't nit pick over you being covered by our health care because of your own stupidity, because like me, you paid into the system too.... thus I have no room to bitch.

So why do you feel you have room to bitch?
 

wulfie68

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1. If marijuana is legal, will you somke that? No. I've had my experiences with pot over the years and don't miss it. In my opinion beer and other alcoholic beverages that I indulge in taste better.

2. Do you have any friends somke marijuana? Probably some back in my home town still do but no one I'm really close with anymore. Back in the high school days we all did.

3. Do you think which is better between cigarette and marijuana? I really don't know. I haven't really researched it. I know cigarettes are bad for you and haven't seen any real evidence to say pot is much better.

4. Do you agree marijuana should be legal? Yes with a caveat: that it be regulated in terms of THC content and curing additives allowed. I've heard all kinds of horror stories over the years about crap people used to cure pot to give it some extra kick. I don't know how much was urban legend BS and how much was real.

5. Should the government control the quantity of the marijuana? Not really sure what is being asked in this question but am assuming that it based on "if the gov't legalized marijuana use...". Should they control the quantity produced? No, if they decide to legalize it. Should they regulate potency? Yes. Should they control who it is sold to (i.e. age limit like alcohol and tobacco)? Yes, no one under 18.
 

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I once sat in a room with 3 friends and 3 of my brothers. They were passing one around and I declined. I remember perfectly my brother saying "just try it, you'll like it".

I replied "that's exactly what I'm afraid of"

Two of my 3 brothers and 1 of my 3 friends ended up becoming addicts. All of them were poor well into their 30's and I've never worried about money in my life. I had more new cars then all of them combined.

Coincidence?
 

MapleOne

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I have had many businesses and have even run a multi million dollar company, but that is not the point.

My point is that they all progressed to harder drugs when the high was no longer good enough. One of my brothers ended up in jail because he needed money to feed his cocaine habit.

To this day I don't know what it feels like to be high but I figure I saved a lot of money by not going down that road.
 

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I have had many businesses and have even run a multi million dollar company, but that is not the point.

My point is that they all progressed to harder drugs when the high was no longer good enough. One of my brothers ended up in jail because he needed money to feed his cocaine habit.

To this day I don't know what it feels like to be high but I figure I saved a lot of money by not going down that road.
Probably a small fortune....

From my perspective, the pursuit of a buck can look just as addictive as chasing a high.
 

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I once sat in a room with 3 friends and 3 of my brothers. They were passing one around and I declined. I remember perfectly my brother saying "just try it, you'll like it".

I replied "that's exactly what I'm afraid of"

Two of my 3 brothers and 1 of my 3 friends ended up becoming addicts. All of them were poor well into their 30's and I've never worried about money in my life. I had more new cars then all of them combined.

Coincidence?

What you state here and the havoc dope has caused to members of my own family is why I detest the sh*t in any form and personally think anyone pushing this sh*t on young people, or importing it or manufacturing it deserve the death penalty. What they are peddling is a potential death sentence. As soon as we can get the powers that be to take this seriously and clean it up the more prosperous this country will be and the safer society will be.

Probably a small fortune....

From my perspective, the pursuit of a buck can look just as addictive as chasing a high.

I guess most of what we do in life is probably some form of sickness, but I figure it's perfectly OK to be crazy as long as we can manage it. :lol::lol: