A spanked child may be a better adult

lone wolf

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You most certainly are. What you are describing is medical treatment. That is in no way comparable to spanking (unless you happen to think that spanking gets rid fo the demons residing in the child).



Now you are catching on, countryboy. This is a leisure activity, and the first requirement of any leisure activity (at least for me) is that it must be fun. Otherwise why bother, why not go and do something that actually is fun?

Why don't you find your version of fun at someone else's expense?
 

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I think we are mainly agreed that punishment should be swift and immediate after the "crime"- so when shopping in a grocery store just what punishment would you recommend S.J. as I don't believe most stores have a chair parked in a corner specifically for young brats.


I have never had this happen, so I really couldn’t tell you. I took our little boy shopping many items, and he was always well behaved, never threw a tantrum. But there was a reason for that. Before we went to the store, I would discuss the shopping list with him, ask him if he wanted anything. If he wanted something, the issue was resolved right there in the home, I would agree to buy what he wanted or disagree. I never left it until we went to the store.

Before we went to the store, he knew perfectly well what we were going to buy, that may be one of the reasons why he never made a scene.

But if that had happened, I probably would let him yell and scream to his heart’s content. As somebody mentioned, that may inconvenience other customers to some extent. However, after he pulls the same stunt once or twice and sees that it doesn’t produce any results (except punishment after we got home), chances are very good that he will give up.
 

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Well, a spanking is definitely out; after all, it apparently is a proven thing that all spanking is done in anger by incompetent parents, and therefore is child abuse which scars children for life.

Probably a 30 minute lecture on the importance of maintaining one's composure would do.

Quite so, TenPenny. You really can’t think of any punishment except spanking, can you? That is why I mentioned earlier, not spanking is the difficult option, one has to be creative in thinking of suitable punishments.
 

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What makes your "anecdotal evidence" more valuable than C.B.'s or Wolf's or Anna's or TenPenny's or mine? I'd say we have you outnumbered at least five to one.

I am not talking of anecdotal evidence here JLM, I am talking of expert opinion. Just google for spanking and you will find out.
 

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You most certainly are. What you are describing is medical treatment. That is in no way comparable to spanking (unless you happen to think that spanking gets rid fo the demons residing in the child).



Now you are catching on, countryboy. This is a leisure activity, and the first requirement of any leisure activity (at least for me) is that it must be fun. Otherwise why bother, why not go and do something that actually is fun?

Well, we all have a different idea of fun, don't we? As slow as I am to catch on to new and emerging trends such as "fun", I don't consider insulting people for their beliefs is fun. I really don't find a lot of fun in putting people into labelled slots an then condemning them for their thoughts and opinions is a whole lot of fun. Shockingly enough, I never even found the act of having to spank my child once in a while a fun thing to do either.

And last but not least, I don't think I've ever had to resort to pretending to know everything there is to know about anything that ever was or will be worth knowing as a source of personal amusement.

What I do consider to be great fun is in seeing a child accomplish something memorable in different stages of their life...like, riding a bicycle for the first time without falling off. Hearing them read out loud their very first sentence all the way through.

Helping someone overcome a serious problem is fun for me. When I was a manager, I used to get a great kick out of being able to promote someone who had really worked hard to deserve it. Giving a good performance review followed by a raise in pay was a great deal of fun.

There are many ways to have fun, but I guess I find interaction with other people one of the "funnest" things in life, and I try very hard not to crap all over them while I am having fun.

I guess we're all different, eh? People can be fun(ny)...
 

SirJosephPorter

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Everybody's anecdotal evidence is irrelevant but yours....guess that makes you special:roll:
That kid of yours must be realy old...My daughter is 38 and she was 8 , 9 or ten when we had a Comodore Vic20 that I wrote games in basic for her and her younger brother.... a few years later it was the 64 with real floppy disks......how old is that son of yours again:lol:


If you read my post, my comment of there being no computers was in relation to our son. Our son grew up in the 80s and 90s. Sure we had a computer at home, but kids did not have the easy access to the computers then that they do today. Computer was not used in school work all that much

Incidentally, here is a tip for parents with young children. Keep the computer in your bedroom. That is what I did. If our son had to use the computer (which was not all that frequent in those days), he had to use it in our bedroom. The advantage is of course, that it being our bedroom, either of us could come and go as we please, and that kept an automatic check on what kind of mischief our son was getting into with the computer (as it turned out, none).

Of course, I don’t know if it will work today, I understand these days the kid practically must have a computer of his own for schoolwork.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Everybody's anecdotal evidence is irrelevant but yours....guess that makes you special:roll:
That kid of yours must be realy old...My daughter is 38 and she was 8 , 9 or ten when we had a Comodore Vic20 that I wrote games in basic for her and her younger brother.... a few years later it was the 64 with real floppy disks......how old is that son of yours again:lol:

Vic20? Well, I can raise you. The very first computer I saw was when I was working in Southampton, England. It was Commodore Pet, the very first model. It had 7 k (7000 bytes) memory. It was keyboard, screen and tape recorder all fused into one unit.

I was very impressed with it, I thought it was just about the greatest thing I had ever seen. I remember writing a program to play tic tac toe on it (or noughts and crosses, as they call it in England).
 
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Overblown ego, self-righteousness, etc. :D.

I should have thought of that, but then not being an expert and the fact it might be anecdotal it probably wouldn't have "flown" anyway...............:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

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Well, we all have a different idea of fun, don't we? As slow as I am to catch on to new and emerging trends such as "fun", I don't consider insulting people for their beliefs is fun. I really don't find a lot of fun in putting people into labelled slots an then condemning them for their thoughts and opinions is a whole lot of fun. Shockingly enough, I never even found the act of having to spank my child once in a while a fun thing to do either.

And last but not least, I don't think I've ever had to resort to pretending to know everything there is to know about anything that ever was or will be worth knowing as a source of personal amusement.

What I do consider to be great fun is in seeing a child accomplish something memorable in different stages of their life...like, riding a bicycle for the first time without falling off. Hearing them read out loud their very first sentence all the way through.

Helping someone overcome a serious problem is fun for me. When I was a manager, I used to get a great kick out of being able to promote someone who had really worked hard to deserve it. Giving a good performance review followed by a raise in pay was a great deal of fun.

There are many ways to have fun, but I guess I find interaction with other people one of the "funnest" things in life, and I try very hard not to crap all over them while I am having fun.

I guess we're all different, eh? People can be fun(ny)...
Oh VERY well said!:lol:
 

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Sir Joseph Porter

My 3 Year old cries whole day continuously from last seven days even though she takes regular food and drinks no medical issue ,she has no reason to cry I dont know how to handle this ,,,,,, some one told me you are the expert who can help me

You might want a second opinion.
 

SirJosephPorter

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The main problem I have with psychologists is that most of them got their "information" out of a book or at a University. Life is a much better teacher than the other two mentioned.

Well, depends upon who you listen to, isn’t it? Those who disagree with experts always make that argument. Thus Fundamentalist Christians belittle the scientists when they claim that scientists are totally wrong and the world was created 5000 years ago in six days. Or eanassir condemned the scientists the other day, claiming that only spiritual beings can see ether, that scientists were somehow deficient for not being able to see or perceive ether.

Your argument isn’t much different. But when it comes to children, I would much rather listen to child experts, child psychologists, rather than rely on somebody’s personal opinion.
 

JLM

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Well countryboy, your grandfather raised 11 children in the 20s. I raised one son in the 80s. I like to think that there is some slight difference. The same approach obviously wouldn't work 60 years apart. Society has evolved considerably since then.

Human nature doesn't recognize the calender.
 

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Well, depends upon who you listen to, isn’t it? Those who disagree with experts always make that argument. Thus Fundamentalist Christians belittle the scientists when they claim that scientists are totally wrong and the world was created 5000 years ago in six days. Or eanassir condemned the scientists the other day, claiming that only spiritual beings can see ether, that scientists were somehow deficient for not being able to see or perceive ether.

Your argument isn’t much different. But when it comes to children, I would much rather listen to child experts, child psychologists, rather than rely on somebody’s persona opinion.

Sir

Do you have any thing for me
 

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Incidentally, here is a tip for parents with young children. Keep the computer in your bedroom. That is what I did.

Of course, I don’t know if it will work today, I understand these days the kid practically must have a computer of his own for schoolwork.
:roll::roll::roll::roll:
 

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Sir Joseph Porter

My 3 Year old cries whole day continuously from last seven days even though she takes regular food and drinks no medical issue ,she has no reason to cry I dont know how to handle this ,,,,,, some one told me you are the expert who can help me

Vinod. Are you Indian by any chance (from India that is). Your name sounds like an Indian name.

And you don't need an expert for this, Vinod. This is clearly a medical issue. If she is crying continuously for seven days, what else can it be? My suggestion to you is, take her to a competent doctor.

Anyway, again it has been fun. Later gators.
 

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There ya go vinod...... the expert has answered and given you a definitive answer.
 

JLM

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Except that people like to put their life experiences into books and unis. How much can you learn about space by standing around on the planet and gawking? How much can you learn about it by reading?

Don't get me wrong Anna, those also very good "avenues" of learning- just don't compare with actual life experience.