A spanked child may be a better adult

[JLM]

Because he is the great I am, that's why.

Haven't you clued in to his awesomeness and utter superiority?

Now that I think back on it I do believe I caught brief flashes of hints of what you describe........................:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

[JLM]

It doesn’t matter how many of them tell me, JLM. None of them are experts, they are all expressing their personal opinion, nothing more. If you want to find out expert opinion, just Google for ‘spanking’. You will find a whole host of articles by child experts, child psychologists outlining the negative consequences of spanking. The only ones who praise spanking to high Heaven are the right wing extremists, the religious right.

So half a dozen posters disagreeing with me means nothing, I am used to much bigger disagreement than that.

The main problem I have with psychologists is that most of them got their "information" out of a book or at a University. Life is a much better teacher than the other two mentioned.

 

[gerryh]

It doesn’t matter how many of them tell me, JLM. None of them are experts, they are all expressing their personal opinion, nothing more. If you want to find out expert opinion, just Google for ‘spanking’. You will find a whole host of articles by child experts, child psychologists outlining the negative consequences of spanking. The only ones who praise spanking to high Heaven are the right wing extremists, the religious right.

So half a dozen posters disagreeing with me means nothing, I am used to much bigger disagreement than that.

Ok....I don't know if I am still on your ":ignore list" or not, but I will ask anyways...... What makes an "expert"?

 

[SirJosephPorter]

That's one of the sadnesses about our modern day urban oriented society. Three years is not too young to teach a reasonably intelligent three year old anything
, or at very least to begin the learning process in any walk of life. There are a couple of good books that illustrate this well (non fiction books) written by British Columbia pioneers, one is "Three Against the Wilderness" by Eric Collier and another is "Never Fly Over an Eagle's Nest" by Joe Garner. (I actually knew Joe Garner when I was a young boy) Being in writing and published so I'm fairly sure these events are not "anecdotal", but I'm sure if it is that will disqualify it- but then I guess all the History books are anecdotal too.....................:smile::smile:

Three year old is not too young to learn anything? Be careful there JLM, the religious right has plenty of problems teaching three years old age appropriate sexuality, alternate lifestyles etc. They take particular exception to books like “Heather has two mommies’ which describe an alternate couple in an age appropriate way.

But I digress. I personally think that a 3 year old is too young to be let near farm machinery. Indeed, he is too young to be let near any machinery, I wouldn’t let him come near a blender.

 

[AnnaG]

Well, a spanking is definitely out; after all, it apparently is a proven thing that all spanking is done in anger by incompetent parents, and therefore is child abuse which scars children for life.

What about the competent ones?

Probably a 30 minute lecture on the importance of maintaining one's composure would do.

.... for putting a kid to sleep. lol

 

[countryboy]

The main problem I have with psychologists is that most of them got their "information" out of a book or at a University. Life is a much better teacher than the other two mentioned.

I believe psychology is "the study of human behaviour." Some of them are still studying...

And is there a reason why their business would be called a "practise?" I mean, I know practise makes perfect, but...when does perfection actually kick in?

 

[DaSleeper]

Ok....I don't know if I am still on your ":ignore list" or not, but I will ask anyways...... What makes an "expert"?

Someone who agrees with him???:roll:

 

[countryboy]

Three year old is not too young to learn anything? Be careful there JLM, the religious right has plenty of problems teaching three years old age appropriate sexuality, alternate lifestyles etc. They take particular exception to books like “Heather has two mommies’ which describe an alternate couple in an age appropriate way.

But I digress. I personally think that a 3 year old is too young to be let near farm machinery. Indeed, he is too young to be let near any machinery, I wouldn’t let him come near a blender.

If you're concerned about psychological damage, you might want to keep that 3 year old away from another piece of machinery - the computer and specifically, Google...lotta' experts with conflicting opinions show up there.

You never know, a child could become scarred for life by ending up as an adult that is thoroughly confused over the whole issue of expert opinion.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Well, I am sincerely glad that that approach worked for you. I really am.

I'm not sure it would work for everyone though. My grandfather - who helped "successfully" raise 11 children - had a different approach. He used to tell me it that training a horse was similar in some respects to training a young child. If a "misbehaviour" was not addressed - along with the administration of consequences or punishment - immediately following the incident, then the lesson learned wouldn't "stick" as well. Or perhaps not at all.

Mind you, he had to figure all that out himself as there weren't many experts to tell him what to do out on the Manitoba prairie back in the 1920s. He had to rely on his own judgement and common sense, which seems to no longer be necessary, at least for some.

Well countryboy, your grandfather raised 11 children in the 20s. I raised one son in the 80s. I like to think that there is some slight difference. The same approach obviously wouldn't work 60 years apart. Society has evolved considerably since then.

 

[countryboy]

Three year old is not too young to learn anything? Be careful there JLM, the religious right has plenty of problems teaching three years old age appropriate sexuality, alternate lifestyles etc. They take particular exception to books like “Heather has two mommies’ which describe an alternate couple in an age appropriate way.

But I digress. I personally think that a 3 year old is too young to be let near farm machinery. Indeed, he is too young to be let near any machinery, I wouldn’t let him come near a blender.

If you're concerned about danger to young ones, I'd recommend avoiding another piece of machinery - the computer, and specifically Google. They will no doubt run across experts with conflicting opinions from time to time. And then where would they end up? You wouldn't want them to grow into adults that are confused over the whole issue of 'expert opinion', would you?

 

[lone wolf]

Well countryboy, your grandfather raised 11 children in the 20s. I raised one son in the 80s. I like to think that there is some slight difference. The same approach obviously wouldn't work 60 years apart. Society has evolved considerably since then.

One wouldn't know it reading your stuff. Arrogance will never change.

 

[DaSleeper]

Three year old is not too young to learn anything? Be careful there JLM, the religious right has plenty of problems teaching three years old age appropriate sexuality, alternate lifestyles etc. They take particular exception to books like “Heather has two mommies’ which describe an alternate couple in an age appropriate way.

But I digress. I personally think that a 3 year old is too young to be let near farm machinery. Indeed, he is too young to be let near any machinery, I wouldn’t let him come near a blender.

You digress a lot
At 3to 4 years old on a farm, you are given small chores like feeding the chickens....I don't remember doing it but I have pictures...so I must have done it.
But what I do remember at around 9 years old having the job of shooting wild rabbits with a 22, coming close to the vegetable garden in the evening even if it was fenced in with chicken wire....
Now contrary to the Liberal view .....getting the odd slap on the but by my mother when I was young and learning to properly use a firearm when I was older....didn't turn me into a child beater or a gang banger.

 

[AnnaG]

The main problem I have with psychologists is that most of them got their "information" out of a book or at a University. Life is a much better teacher than the other two mentioned.

Except that people like to put their life experiences into books and unis. How much can you learn about space by standing around on the planet and gawking? How much can you learn about it by reading?

 

[AnnaG]

I believe psychology is "the study of human behaviour." Some of them are still studying...

And is there a reason why their business would be called a "practise?" I mean, I know practise makes perfect, but...when does perfection actually kick in?

When they get stuff right, would be my guess.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

That might be a bit simplistic. What about that iron cord that was mentioned earlier? And, does that mean when my mother (who was a nurse) put my dislocated shoulder back in place - by her dreaded "hand" - that she was spanking me? I can tell you it was most definitely painful.
Obviously, I'm being a bit nit-picky,

You most certainly are. What you are describing is medical treatment. That is in no way comparable to spanking (unless you happen to think that spanking gets rid fo the demons residing in the child).

If you're going to tell me that "Definition of spanking is..." without qualifying that it's YOUR definition, then I'm going to pick away at the obvious holes in it. Why?

Two reasons...
1. Some new parent-to-be might be reading these posts, and I'd to see them get started off with any incorrect information and
2. I'm having a bit of fun because you once told me in a post that you're here for the fun. At that time, I told you that I was here primarily to learn things from others, but since then, I have discovered that element of "fun." Thanks for that!

Now you are catching on, countryboy. This is a leisure activity, and the first requirement of any leisure activity (at least for me) is that it must be fun. Otherwise why bother, why not go and do something that actually is fun?

 

[countryboy]

Well countryboy, your grandfather raised 11 children in the 20s. I raised one son in the 80s. I like to think that there is some slight difference. The same approach obviously wouldn't work 60 years apart. Society has evolved considerably since then.

Yes, I am reminded of that each time I visit the local mall.

 

[Downhome_Woman]

It doesn’t matter how many of them tell me, JLM. None of them are experts, they are all expressing their personal opinion, nothing more. If you want to find out expert opinion, just Google for ‘spanking’. You will find a whole host of articles by child experts, child psychologists outlining the negative consequences of spanking. The only ones who praise spanking to high Heaven are the right wing extremists, the religious right.

So half a dozen posters disagreeing with me means nothing, I am used to much bigger disagreement than that.

Actually I am an expert. Raising two children who grew into well adjusted, socially responsible, caring individuals makes me an expert.I'm nor a right wing extremist - far from it. Why do you postulate that there is only an 'either - or'? You imply that those that have spanked their children are praising it to high heaven. I'm not. I've said that yes, I spanked my children and I myself was spanked. But it was something that happened only in certain situations and was always accompanied by talk. The idea of spanking at the drop of a hat is repugnant. Yet you would toss me in with all those 'right wing fundamentalists' you so despise.
I recognize that each child is an individual and responds as an individual.I'm glad that you had children that responded positively all the time to your form of correction. Mine didn't Each child was totally different in temperment and each child at one time or the other responded to discussion, to consequences and to spanking (when they were younger - they were never spanked when they were older -and why should they have been? When they got older their ability to reason matured and therefore talk and consequences were more effective)
I'm surprised that someone as liberal as yourself would have such a narrow view.

 

[countryboy]

:roll: And I raised two in the 90s so I outrank you. *thumbs nose at sir joke* "nanner nanner nanner"

Hey, I'd bet that there were some that were raised even before the 1920s! Yes, it's true! I have no idea how they got along without today's experts to guide them and improve things, and I'd even go out on a limb and say that some might have had the unmitigated gall to actually....get ready for it...SPANK THEM!

I have no idea how parents got this far on their own. Thank goodness we've finally arrived at the time where everything is perfect, especially the expert advice available on parenting.

 

[vinod1975]

It doesn’t matter how many of them ,

Sir Joseph Porter

My 3 Year old cries whole day continuously from last seven days even though she takes regular food and drinks no medical issue ,she has no reason to cry I dont know how to handle this ,,,,,, some one told me you are the expert who can help me

 

[SirJosephPorter]

i would think it is a far better thing to occasionally spank a child, and make sure he knows that he is loved, than to let him grow up fat.

I see. So if a parent doesn't spank the child, the child will grow up to be fat, is that it? I am learning many benefits of spanking in this forum. Why, listening to some of the spanking enthusiasts here, it must be the greatest thing since sliced bread, a bigger boon to humankind than penicillin.

Perhaps you may have found the cure to childhood obesity, TenPenny. Just spank the child occasionally and watch that fat melt away before your very eyes![FONT=&quot][/FONT]