Will Tump Tear up NAFTA???

Hoid

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As I have mentioned Trump could care less about nafta except that it is something the Clintons did.

It has to go because things like abortion and the clintons are what keeps the tea party and the swift boaters and the birthers etc etc etc engaged.
 

White_Unifier

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We can criticize US protectionism all we want, but Canada is no angel in that regard either. Two wrongs don't make a right of course, but I'm just saying that the blame doesn't lie 100% on Trump's shoulders. He's just throwing fuel on an already-existing fire of protectionism. He's just aggravating already-existing protectionism. To be fair to him, he didn't invent the problem, he's just aggravating it.
 

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The Age of Multilateral 'Free' Trade Agreements is coming to an end. They were done in by their fraudulent pemise of enriching traders and financiers while enslaving foreign labour to subsistence wages and throwing first world manufacturers and their workers out of business. It has been a massive scam from the beginning.

Canada has not profited from NAFTA even under the highly limited notion of 'Trade Balance' that is used as the standard marker. It has been catastrophic for the world economy. It has led to a de-industrialization; polarization of wealth; vast impoverishment; mandated shortages & resource underutilization and economic inertia in the developed world, while failing to, in any way, enrich the developing world.

It needs to be replaced by flexible Bi-Lateral Fair Trade Agreements focussed on value added product, stabilized exchange rates and full fairly compensated employment for both sides. Global Free Market Capitalism is crumbling. The question is will its demise be done peacefully or will it be marked by revolutions and World War to overturn the suprantional organizations, banks and corporations that now rule the world.

So we should welcome Trump's tearing up of the agreement. Unfortunately we've elected a pathetic, submissive weakling as PM without a clue as to how to respond; as lost as he is in the globalist sophistry and the directives of the feminist coven to whom he reports.
 
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Kreskin

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My concern with protectionism is the future of inflation. Pensioners will sooner or later pay the price.
 

Curious Cdn

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My concern with protectionism is the future of inflation. Pensioners will sooner or later pay the price.

Yeah, but just think how much better the bond yields will be when interest rates go up! Imagine how that will help Ma and Pa Unemployed Steelworker in Allentown Penn!

MAGA!
 

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Yeah, but just think how much better the bond yields will be when interest rates go up! Imagine how that will help Ma and Pa Unemployed Steelworker in Allentown Penn!

MAGA!

Is it time for a cow turning in the 2016 election where there will be a new president's vote of Congress of Republicans or how it will be.
 

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Canada has not profited from NAFTA even under the highly limited notion of 'Trade Balance' that is used as the standard marker. It has been catastrophic for the world economy. It has led to a de-industrialization; polarization of wealth; vast impoverishment; mandated shortages & resource underutilization and economic inertia in the developed world, while failing to, in any way, enrich the developing world.

Can you point to any recognized contemporary society that has successfully achieved an equal distribution of wealth?

It needs to be replaced by flexible Bi-Lateral Fair Trade Agreements focussed on value added product, stabilized exchange rates and full fairly compensated employment for both sides. Global Free Market Capitalism is crumbling. The question is will its demise be done peacefully or will it be marked by revolutions and World War to overturn the suprantional organizations, banks and corporations that now rule the world.

Fair is all relative, ain't it?

your suggestion is a virtual impossibility

So we should welcome Trump's tearing up of the agreement. Unfortunately we've elected a pathetic, submissive weakling as PM without a clue as to how to respond; as lost as he is in the globalist sophistry and the directives of the feminist coven to whom he reports.

Agreed.

By in large, the trade agreements formed by most nations get violated innumerable times within the first 5 years and morph into an ongoing headache.

Tear up NAFTA and don't bother replacing it with anything
 

White_Unifier

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Can you point to any recognized contemporary society that has successfully achieved an equal distribution of wealth?



Fair is all relative, ain't it?

your suggestion is a virtual impossibility



Agreed.

By in large, the trade agreements formed by most nations get violated innumerable times within the first 5 years and morph into an ongoing headache.

Tear up NAFTA and don't bother replacing it with anything

Eliminating the extremes of wealth and poverty is desirable, but aiming for total material equality would destroy society.

Free trade allows for economies of scale that are impossible especially in a population-poor country like Canada. Also, multilateral trade agreements are an efficient use of negotiators' time rather than wasting their time trying to renegotiate the same thing with each little Caribbean country.
 

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The Age of Multilateral 'Free' Trade Agreements is coming to an end. They were done in by their fraudulent pemise of enriching traders and financiers while enslaving foreign labour to subsistence wages and throwing first world manufacturers and their workers out of business. It has been a massive scam from the beginning.


I agree that there are some companies that do not have the best interests of their employees but I also believe that MOST companies do be it American or Canadian, especially now in the days of social media do.

Canada has not profited from NAFTA even under the highly limited notion of 'Trade Balance' that is used as the standard marker. It has been catastrophic for the world economy. It has led to a de-industrialization; polarization of wealth; vast impoverishment; mandated shortages & resource underutilization and economic inertia in the developed world, while failing to, in any way, enrich the developing world.



Can you please tell me how NAFTA has been "catastrophic for the world economy?" I thought it was between Canada and the US?
For the most part, Canadians have faired well under this agreement and has hardly "vast impoverishment' which I take to mean the "vast majority" are impoverished which is simply not true. We have a standard of living which, while high, is one of the best in the world.


It needs to be replaced by flexible Bi-Lateral Fair Trade Agreements focussed on value added product, stabilized exchange rates and full fairly compensated employment for both sides. Global Free Market Capitalism is crumbling. The question is will its demise be done peacefully or will it be marked by revolutions and World War to overturn the suprantional organizations, banks and corporations that now rule the world.




Well, should that happen, I doubt if the sun won't rise the following morning but I would think there would be repercussions. We'd have to wait and see what it would be. I'm thinking it won't be good for Canada since, until things change, the US is our biggest customer. And, of course, the "impoverished" of our country could then increase? - who knows? All I know is that Canada has benefitted more by NAFTA than it has not.


JMHO
 

Hoid

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in fact the age of multi lateral free trade is only beginning.

as it is a benefit to the 1% it will continue