Us imposes steel/aluminum tariffs

Curious Cdn

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Fake Mews outlets and their advertising clients are making excellent money off of TDS(Trump Derangement Syndrome). 94% of Trump news is negative and it's a feeding frenzy that keeps the "patient" getting numerous doses a day.

If OB buys a Nissan Rogue which seems to be the most advertised vehicle during newscast commercials you'll know she is incurable.



Not even close man. LA is double the size and then some.

That's good thing?
 

petros

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Hi! Hoid

Are you saying that the leadership of the government and congress are scratching their heads and trying to figure the situation out?

Believe me ..... the powers that be know exactly what is going on.

They just passed a budget with a 1.2 Trillion Dollar Deficit and the population is making demands that can not be met or has not been set aside in the budget.

At the same time ...... legislation is moving through congess that attaches new "conditions" for participating in social programs.

The only way is for America to let the dollar drop in value and bring on inflation. And where a dollar only buys you 90 cents of what it cost last month. Which means that the Federal Debt fell by 10% of 1.2 Trillion.

This trade war is about having the media headlines being about bringing jobs to America ..... And only after we wean 20 or 30 million from social assistance of some type.

It is about Trump "Managing" the decline of America and Trump comes into the Boxing Ring "Fighting" for jobs. (Heavy on the Fighting.)

Lowering the trade deficit keeps inflation low and dollar buying power high.
 

taxslave

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Instead of pissing and moaning the steel industry could do like the softwood lumber producers did. Just added the duty onto the price and let the American consumer pay it all, thereby turning an export tax into a consumption tax.
 

Gilgamesh

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This is just the beginning.

You can't lose a trillion dollars off of your tax base and not raise taxes somewhere else.
Who lost a trillion dollars?

Not the Americans for sure. Their economy is booming, unemployment is down....

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Canada hits back at U.S. with dollar-for-dollar tariffs on steel, aluminum, maple syrup


Canada hits back at U.S. with dollar-for-dollar tariffs on steel, aluminum, maple syrup | CBC News








Sooo what does the CDN contingency of the Trump Cult think about this?? Support Trump as usual........or defend CDA?? Perhaps they should seriously think about changing their citizenships & moving to Trump land.

Trump's (insane ) abuse of power is just beginning. we ain't seen nuthin yet. Mexico is reacting. The UE EU is reacting.......

Another Tyrannical trump hand grenade thrown out for dramatic effect regardless of how many it hurts.

This has the flavor of revenge. (NOT getting exactly what HE waNTS IN nafta.......ETC.


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rEVENGE IS THE THEME OF MANY OF HIS DECISIONS. jUST LIKE GRANTING THE FOUR PARDONS TODAY.........ALL OF WHOM WERE TIED TO cOOMEY.......WHO HE DESPISES. ( AFTER ALL cOOMEY HURT HIS FEELINGS BY SPEAKING THE facts AND tRUTH.
Canadas entire GDP is slightly smaller than the State of California.

Anything Trudeau does is irrelevant.
 

OpposingDigit

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Hi! Gilgamesh

You are right ..... Anything Trudeau does is irrelevant.

We are totally on our knees when it comes to our place in the World Economic System and which is totally owned by the Americans.

Remember when Lyin' Brian Mulroney sang ... "When Irish Eyes Are Smiling .... with Ronnie Ray-Gun, he called the Americans our "Trusted Friends" when in fact we are just Business Associates in an American Monopoly System.

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Torch light

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Pierre Trudeau always talked about the U.S. as being an elephant in the yard and attempted to widen trade via Cuba and Latin America. America bad-mouthed Pierre Trudeau and called him a Socialist/Communist.

Then came Ronnie Ray-Gun and Lyin' Brian with Free Trade and they mocked those who mentioned hesitation about giving the U.S. too much influence within our Canadian economy.

We Canadians are just a blurp on a computer screen in New York. and Canadian influence within the American economy is minuscule. The U.S. could place tariffs on every export we have and the computer screen blurp would not even flutter. We Canadians are zip-all in the big picture. The U.S. owns Canada and they get to flex their financial muscle when they feel like it.

I think we can expect to see huge changes with Arctic Sovereignty and debates as to who really owns the oil and gas within the Arctic? The U.S. is going to challenge our present Northern border lines. They may even demand changes to the Great Lakes Treaty so that they can divert water to California.

The U.S. intends to bring us to our knees if need be. Look at the Folks in Puerto Rico after the hurricane and witness just how much sympathy the Americans have in their minds for a "U.S. Territory" and you might then well imagine just what they think about "Foreign" Canadians.

The U.S. intends to walk away from the United Nations completely as China continues to rise upon the world stage. America has broken International Law when they moved the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem, and they have no regard. They and their "Coalition Of The Willing" will tag along with them.

The U.S. will walk away from the WTO if need be.

Canada is a vastly wide country full of treasures, wealth and resources .. so the US needs it very much. And if there is a strong Canadian government policy, it will subject the US to its will.
On the other hand, the recent tariff measure indicates their big economic problem. And they will never succeed whatever they do .. especially following the shifting of their embassy to Al-Quds, they will suffocate economically (this is from God .. as I expect)
 

spilledthebeer

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There y'go, Canada, Torchy supports you!

You're f*cked.


All this Trudope crap comes down to several very simple things: first that Our idiot Boy is following the Soviet brain washing given him by his vile father Pierre and thus he HATES Yankees.



And Trump is quite serious about national security issues! |The shock and horror that ensued in Ottawa when LIE-berals blandly assumed that any North Korean missiles that were shot at Canada would be disposed of by Yankee military- and Yankees shrugged and asked: why should we? Was a real plunge into COLD REALITY for LIE-berals!



Our idiot Boy could make all this trade war crap GO AWAY if only he got serious about national security! But he is having too much fun collecting illegals as if he was nothing but a crazy cat lady rounding up strays!



In related news- Trump is pushing a huge number of illegals out of United States! He is happy to see the go but is UNHAPPY they are still lurking in easy range of a quick return from Canada!


If the political climate in United States change substantially and all those Haitians and others decide to go back to the States- do you suppose Cdn Mounties will help them carry their bags BACK ACROSS the border?


AS I have said many times before- Our idiot Boy Justin is engaged in pulling a magic trick in which all our jobs and money disappear and he is well into his sick shtick! The idiot Boy gambled he could outlast Trump and LOST!


Our idiot Boy has NO intention of crawling down off his high horse and admitting what a COLOSSAL MESS he has made- with his incredible series of deficits- which may be even bigger than he admits- after all he has just as many accountants to LIE for him as

Ontari-owe LIE-beral Wynne-bag with her blanced budgets that hide massive deficits!


And of course- as we have seen- Our idiot Boy is telling HUGE LIES about the number of illegals already here, even more LIES about how many arrive on any given day, even more lies about how much it is costing us to keep those illegals that have been rounded up by our crazy cat lady PM, still more lies about what sort of security screening the strays are getting, more lies again about how many are actaully capable of finding a job and becoming self supporting, more lies about just how much training the govt will have to supply befofe the strays can become gainfully employed, and more lies yet again about just how much financial help federal LIE-berals are actually offering to municipal leaders like Jackass John Tory whose Sanctuary City crap is sinking in a flood of red ink and overflowing homeless shelters- and aint it odd the homeless shelters are overflowing but the supply of new welfare cheques is easily keeping up with demand- so shall we suggest that LIE-berals are also LYING about the welfare cost as well?


And so far we have not discussed the clothing allowances, the dental care, or the various medical needs of the strays!


Nor have we discussed the level of friction that is building in our society between the strays and Cdns! Exra Levant and his Rebel Media have documented near riot conditions in one Hamilton district with locals battling it out with three Muslim families- during which rocks and bottles were thrown!


Rebel Media interviewed the Muslims and were told by the Muslims that the houses that were supplied to them were "GROSS"! How long before such frustration and boredom result in Jihad here in Canada? Other writers have documented how quickly boredom and long term poverty and semi employment can persuade young people to turn and attack the society that gave them shelter!


And it is these future angry jihadists that Trump IS worried about and which Our idiot Boy Justin is ignoring because he thinks Isis can "be a powerful voice in our country"!


Our idiot Boy is a REAL MAROON! AND A VERY BAD LIAR!
 

DaSleeper

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Spilledthebeer new avatar......


 

B00Mer

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Yawn...

If the Ontario Liberals and Trudeau had the balls of a man this silly childish trade war could be over in a week.

Just cut off oil and gas, and Ontario electricity for 1 week going to the USA.

As prices skyrocket at the pumps in the USA hitting the pockets of the voters (Trumptards) this will be another of Trumps failed ventures..

 

taxslave

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Funny how we never heard all this catterwalling from the Lefty's media when Obummer illegally imposed duties on softwood lumber.
 

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Not true if yer only news source is CNN, CBC, The Star, MSNBC...
you used CNN just yesterday

Hi! Hoid

Are you saying that the leadership of the government and congress are scratching their heads and trying to figure the situation out?

Believe me ..... the powers that be know exactly what is going on.

They just passed a budget with a 1.2 Trillion Dollar Deficit and the population is making demands that can not be met or has not been set aside in the budget.

At the same time ...... legislation is moving through congess that attaches new "conditions" for participating in social programs.

The only way is for America to let the dollar drop in value and bring on inflation. And where a dollar only buys you 90 cents of what it cost last month. Which means that the Federal Debt fell by 10% of 1.2 Trillion.

This trade war is about having the media headlines being about bringing jobs to America ..... And only after we wean 20 or 30 million from social assistance of some type.

It is about Trump "Managing" the decline of America and Trump comes into the Boxing Ring "Fighting" for jobs. (Heavy on the Fighting.)


The main issue I would take with you is your use of the word America. It is not America that wants all these nefarious things. America wants to wake up in the morning and go to work. America is fine getting along with whoever in whatever group.

The actions of this administration are not an expression of American will.
 

Hoid

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the softwood duty issue has been around for a hundred years. I am finding it difficult to put reimposing a duty (at the conclusion of a long negotiation)that has been on and off dozens of times in the same ball park as unilaterally altering the international trade of metals.

but then again I am not desperately trying to normalize the action of President poop for brains.

Canada could have made the deal Obama offered them but they decided they might get a better deal from Trump. Just another great decision there.
 

OpposingDigit

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Do yuh think that if Canada would agree to immediately sign on to the "Missile Defense System" and/or to invest more into "NORAD" that the country could walk away unscathed?
 

petros

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Importer obligations and responsibilities

Aluminum Extrusions: Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Carbon and Alloy Steel Line Pipe: Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Carbon and Alloy Steel Line Pipe 2: Dumping (Republic of Korea)
Carbon Steel Welded Pipe (CSWP 1): Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Carbon Steel Welded Pipe 2 (CSWP 2): Dumping (Chinese Taipei, India, Oman, Republic of Korea, Thailand and United Arab Emirates); Countervailing (India)
Concrete Reinforcing Bar: Dumping (China, Republic of Korea, Turkey); Countervailing (China)
Concrete Reinforcing Bar 2: Dumping (Belarus, Chinese Taipei, Hong Kong, Japan, Portugal and Spain)
Copper Pipe Fittings: Dumping (China, Republic of Korea and United States); Countervailing (China)
Copper Pipe Fittings 2: Dumping and Subsidizing (Vietnam)
Copper Tube: Dumping (Brazil, China, Greece, Mexico and Republic of Korea); Countervailing (China)
Dry Wheat Pasta: Dumping and Subsidy (Turkey)
Fabricated Industrial Steel Components: Dumping (China, Korea and Spain) & Countervailing (China)
Fasteners: Dumping (China and Chinese Taipei); Countervailing (China)
Flat Hot-Rolled Carbon and Alloy Steel Sheet and Strips: Dumping (Brazil, China and Ukraine); Countervailing (India)
Gypsum Board: Dumping (United States of America)
Hollow Structural Sections: Dumping (Republic of Korea and Turkey)
Large Line Pipe: Dumping (China and Japan) & Countervailing (China)
Liquid Dielectric Transformers: Dumping (Republic of Korea)
Oil Country Tubular Goods (OCTG 1): Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Oil Country Tubular Goods 2 (OCTG 2): Dumping (Chinese Taipei, India, Indonesia, Philippines, Republic of Korea, Thailand, Turkey, Ukraine and Vietnam)
Photovoltaic Modules and Laminates: Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Piling Pipe: Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Polyethylene Terephthalate Resin: Dumping and Countervailing (China, India, Oman and Pakistan)
Pup Joints: Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Refined Sugar: Dumping (Denmark, Germany, Netherlands, United Kingdom and United States); Countervailing (European Union)
Seamless Casing: Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Silicon Metal: Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Silicon Metal 2: Dumping (Brazil, Kazakhstan, Laos, Malaysia and Thailand) & Countervailing (Brazil, Kazakhstan, Malaysia and Norway)
Stainless Steel Sinks: Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Steel Grating: Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Steel Plate 3: Dumping (China)
Steel Plate 5: Dumping (Bulgaria, Czech Republic and Romania)
Steel Plate 6: Dumping (Ukraine)
Steel Plate 7: Dumping (Brazil, Denmark, Indonesia, Italy, Japan and the Republic of Korea)
Thermoelectric Coolers and Warmers: Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Unitized Wall Modules (UWM): Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Whole Potatoes: Dumping (United-States)

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This is a list of goods currently subject to anti-dumping or countervailing measures pursuant to the Special Import Measures Act (SIMA). It is updated as necessary to reflect the current status of duty liability.

Note: If there is any discrepancy between the SIMA finding or order and the information in this Measures in Force list, the finding or order takes precedence.

Importer obligations and responsibilities

Aluminum Extrusions: Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Carbon and Alloy Steel Line Pipe: Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Carbon and Alloy Steel Line Pipe 2: Dumping (Republic of Korea)
Carbon Steel Welded Pipe (CSWP 1): Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Carbon Steel Welded Pipe 2 (CSWP 2): Dumping (Chinese Taipei, India, Oman, Republic of Korea, Thailand and United Arab Emirates); Countervailing (India)
Concrete Reinforcing Bar: Dumping (China, Republic of Korea, Turkey); Countervailing (China)
Concrete Reinforcing Bar 2: Dumping (Belarus, Chinese Taipei, Hong Kong, Japan, Portugal and Spain)
Copper Pipe Fittings: Dumping (China, Republic of Korea and United States); Countervailing (China)
Copper Pipe Fittings 2: Dumping and Subsidizing (Vietnam)
Copper Tube: Dumping (Brazil, China, Greece, Mexico and Republic of Korea); Countervailing (China)
Dry Wheat Pasta: Dumping and Subsidy (Turkey)
Fabricated Industrial Steel Components: Dumping (China, Korea and Spain) & Countervailing (China)
Fasteners: Dumping (China and Chinese Taipei); Countervailing (China)
Flat Hot-Rolled Carbon and Alloy Steel Sheet and Strips: Dumping (Brazil, China and Ukraine); Countervailing (India)
Gypsum Board: Dumping (United States of America)
Hollow Structural Sections: Dumping (Republic of Korea and Turkey)
Large Line Pipe: Dumping (China and Japan) & Countervailing (China)
Liquid Dielectric Transformers: Dumping (Republic of Korea)
Oil Country Tubular Goods (OCTG 1): Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Oil Country Tubular Goods 2 (OCTG 2): Dumping (Chinese Taipei, India, Indonesia, Philippines, Republic of Korea, Thailand, Turkey, Ukraine and Vietnam)
Photovoltaic Modules and Laminates: Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Piling Pipe: Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Polyethylene Terephthalate Resin: Dumping and Countervailing (China, India, Oman and Pakistan)
Pup Joints: Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Refined Sugar: Dumping (Denmark, Germany, Netherlands, United Kingdom and United States); Countervailing (European Union)
Seamless Casing: Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Silicon Metal: Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Silicon Metal 2: Dumping (Brazil, Kazakhstan, Laos, Malaysia and Thailand) & Countervailing (Brazil, Kazakhstan, Malaysia and Norway)
Stainless Steel Sinks: Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Steel Grating: Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Steel Plate 3: Dumping (China)
Steel Plate 5: Dumping (Bulgaria, Czech Republic and Romania)
Steel Plate 6: Dumping (Ukraine)
Steel Plate 7: Dumping (Brazil, Denmark, Indonesia, Italy, Japan and the Republic of Korea)
Thermoelectric Coolers and Warmers: Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Unitized Wall Modules (UWM): Dumping & Countervailing (China)
Whole Potatoes: Dumping (United-States)

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