Us imposes steel/aluminum tariffs

Walter

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Tariffs don’t take effect for about four weeks, plenty of time to werk out a deal. Art of the deal. MAGA
Too bad Turdoh has no concept of negotiation.
 

White_Unifier

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Huh - hard to buy American anyway when most things that I want to buy say "made in China" - just sayin'

Google, Facebook, WhatsApp, YouTube, etc. are all American. Stop using them, they lose ad revenue.

Fair enough, not easy to abandon everything, but even just a conscientious effort to reduce US consumption would have an impact.
 

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U.S. president blasts Canada on Twitter over trade

"Canada has treated our Agricultural business and Farmers very poorly for a very long period of time. Highly restrictive on Trade!" U.S. President Donald Trump said on his Twitter account, a day after the U.S. levelled steel and aluminum tariffs on Canada.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/trade-war-trump-blasts-canada-on-twitter-1.3954972


just another twitter tantrum because he can't get his tyrannical/ authoritarian way..
 

White_Unifier

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End visa-free access for US passport holders. If Canada, the EU, and Mexico do this, that would greatly diminish the value of the US passport for international trade and tourism. The us could hurt us in retaliation, but we could still travel visa-free with our other allies.
 

petros

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Your are either crazy or clueless.

Eat a pound of bacon, feed your brain and think about that again. That vegan food isn't giving your brain the fat it needs to function.

ah yes, food - guess that would be the exception wouldn't it LOL. Guess we need to start growing more of our own via individual greenhouses

You can be successful in Quebec operating a greenhouse but Wynne killed that too in Ontario with The minimum wage hike and cap and trade.

Both combined is a 32% hit costing producers $30M this year and $40M for 2019.
 
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DaSleeper

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U.S. president blasts Canada on Twitter over trade

"Canada has treated our Agricultural business and Farmers very poorly for a very long period of time. Highly restrictive on Trade!" U.S. President Donald Trump said on his Twitter account, a day after the U.S. levelled steel and aluminum tariffs on Canada.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/trade-war-trump-blasts-canada-on-twitter-1.3954972


just another twitter tantrum because he can't get his tyrannical/ authoritarian way..
What about your C.C. tantrum about Trump every day?
 

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Justin Trudeau's Liberals scattershot approach to trade retaliation is bound amplify any destructive effects of the U.S. tariffs on the Canadian economy.

Justin is a free market liberal, which is a way of stating that he grovels before the idol of the (non-existent) Invisible Hand of Free Market to justify his failure to manage the Canadian economy. He has no underlying vision of a national integrated industrial economy which requires comprehensive economic planning and support. He thinks he's going to punish the U.S., which is a futile prospect. Just as the spectacle of his limp wristed, lisping exclamations of 'outrage' will be considered comedic in the Trump administration.

There is no chance that Justin will be able to effectively manage the Canadian economy in a world that is veering into nationalism and populism as a response to the catastrophic failure of Global Free Market Capitalism. He's just a lost little space cadet and flower child in a globe dominated by smart, sophisticated opponents.. and he's going to get his ass kicked.. which means we are going to get our ass kicked.
 
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White_Unifier

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Justin Trudeau's Liberals scattershot approach to trade retaliation is bound amplify any destructive effects of the U.S. tariffs on the Canadian economy.

Justin is a free market liberal, which is a way of stating that he grovels before the idol of the (non-existent) Invisible Hand of Free Market to justify his failure to manage the Canadian economy. He has no underlying vision of a national integrated industrial economy which requires comprehensive economic planning and support. He thinks he's going to punish the U.S., which is a futile prospect. Just as the spectacle of his limp wristed, lisping exclamations of 'outrage' will be considered comedic in the Trump administration.

There is no chance that Justin will be able to effectively manage the Canadian economy in a world that is veering into nationalism and populism as a response to the catastrophic failure of Global Free Market Capitalism. He's just a lost little space cadet and flower child in globe dominated by smart, sophisticated opponents.. and he's going to get his ass kicked.

The last great experiment in protectionism led to the Great Depression and then WWII.

I'm not a big fan of big military spending and government borrowing, but in these days of protectionism, we're now in a state of economic war and that has a history of heating to fast.

Right now, Canada should militarize and ally itself.
 

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There will be no actual war over this but it would be a good idea to pour some money into the military to take ammunition away from Trump about protecting our Country.

Just say OK to the Sunset clause, which isn't an overly bad idea, take out some socially progressive clauses, and negotiate on % of foreign parts imported for foreign vehicle manufacturing, and the whole thing is over.
 

coldstream

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The last great experiment in protectionism led to the Great Depression and then WWII.

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That is Free Trade propaganda. Canada's economic success beginning with John A. MacDonald's National policies were based on protection of critical manufacturing, public ivestment (and ownership) in transportation, communication and energy infrastructures, credit policies that promoted enterprise investment.

Canada always had a protected economy until the Free Market era was progressively foisted on us beginning in the 1970s. And it has been an unmitigated failure. The Great Depression had everything to do with the drought of liquidity brought on an unregulated banking and equities system. It was immediately resolved when the government started spending and opened up targeted credit to support the War effort.
 

White_Unifier

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Personally, I'd be fine with just jamming your growing population into the same space until it looks like Gibraltar or Hong Kong set in the middle of an endless wilderness.

That would be picturesque. I always liked images of green urban space. Hong Kong has much of that.
 
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petros

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What about your C.C. tantrum about Trump every day?
Fake Mews outlets and their advertising clients are making excellent money off of TDS(Trump Derangement Syndrome). 94% of Trump news is negative and it's a feeding frenzy that keeps the "patient" getting numerous doses a day.

If OB buys a Nissan Rogue which seems to be the most advertised vehicle during newscast commercials you'll know she is incurable.

This place sprawls like LA and zero thought has been put into it's development...20th century dumb.

Not even close man. LA is double the size and then some.
 

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Pierre Trudeau always talked about the U.S. as being an elephant in the yard and attempted to widen trade via Cuba and Latin America. America bad-mouthed Pierre Trudeau and called him a Socialist/Communist.

Then came Ronnie Ray-Gun and Lyin' Brian with Free Trade and they mocked those who mentioned hesitation about giving the U.S. too much influence within our Canadian economy.

We Canadians are just a blurp on a computer screen in New York. and Canadian influence within the American economy is minuscule. The U.S. could place tariffs on every export we have and the computer screen blurp would not even flutter. We Canadians are zip-all in the big picture. The U.S. owns Canada and they get to flex their financial muscle when they feel like it.

I think we can expect to see huge changes with Arctic Sovereignty and debates as to who really owns the oil and gas within the Arctic? The U.S. is going to challenge our present Northern border lines. They may even demand changes to the Great Lakes Treaty so that they can divert water to California.

The U.S. intends to bring us to our knees if need be. Look at the Folks in Puerto Rico after the hurricane and witness just how much sympathy the Americans have in their minds for a "U.S. Territory" and you might then well imagine just what they think about "Foreign" Canadians.

The U.S. intends to walk away from the United Nations completely as China continues to rise upon the world stage. America has broken International Law when they moved the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem, and they have no regard. They and their "Coalition Of The Willing" will tag along with them.

The U.S. will walk away from the WTO if need be.
 
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Nobody anywhere knows what President Poop for brains is going to do.

Nobody had any idea he was going to put this tax on - except me.

Republicans are just scratching their heads trying to figure out what to do with this dimwit
 

OpposingDigit

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Hi! Hoid

Are you saying that the leadership of the government and congress are scratching their heads and trying to figure the situation out?

Believe me ..... the powers that be know exactly what is going on.

They just passed a budget with a 1.2 Trillion Dollar Deficit and the population is making demands that can not be met or has not been set aside in the budget.

At the same time ...... legislation is moving through congess that attaches new "conditions" for participating in social programs.

The only way is for America to let the dollar drop in value and bring on inflation. And where a dollar only buys you 90 cents of what it cost last month. Which means that the Federal Debt fell by 10% of 1.2 Trillion.

This trade war is about having the media headlines being about bringing jobs to America ..... And only after we wean 20 or 30 million from social assistance of some type.

It is about Trump "Managing" the decline of America and Trump comes into the Boxing Ring "Fighting" for jobs. (Heavy on the Fighting.)