Us imposes steel/aluminum tariffs
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Maybe Canada should have curbed brokers from dumping cheap foreign steel into the States for huge profits
Are you sure that Canada and Mexico aren't complicit in foreign steel/aluminum dumping?
We need to hit back.
And we can do it by imposing retrictions of unrefined oil exports. But to do that we have to start building refineries rather before we build pipelines for unrefined crude oil exports. We need to start demanding Canadian content for vehicles sold in Canada. We need a comprehensive system of tariffs with the intent of promoting an integrated industrial economy and full, fairly payed employment.
We have thrived in the nationalist economic principles that existed from Confederation to the 1970s. Our economy has fallen apart since we became part of the Global Free Market Leviathan. Incomes have stagnated, wealth has become polarized, few opportunities exist for young people, our economy is increasingly owned and controlled by foreign interests, we have steadily deindustrialized and disintegrated our manufacturing. We have steadily returned to the status of an impoverished colonial economy based on exports of unprocessed raw material and service provision.
It's been a disaster. Trump is right; but Trump acts in the interests of the American People. We need someone to act boldly and resolutely in the interests of the Canadian People and not some discredited and disingenuous ideology (Free Trade and Monetarism).
But we have this grovelling incompetent weakling as PM, who worships before the idol of the Invisible Hand of the Free Market (and a lot of other New Age gimmicks), which has led to a corporate and fianancial world tyranny. And Justin just isn't smart enough to see it.. or brave enough to do anything about it.
And we can do it by imposing retrictions of unrefined oil exports. But to do that we have to start building refineries rather before we build pipelines for unrefined crude oil exports. We need to start demanding Canadian content for vehicles sold in Canada. We need a comprehensive system of tariffs with the intent of promoting an integrated industrial economy and full, fairly payed employment.
We have thrived in the nationalist economic principles that existed from Confederation to the 1970s. Our economy has fallen apart since we became part of the Global Free Market Leviathan. Incomes have stagnated, wealth has become polarized, few opportunities exist for young people, our economy is increasingly owned and controlled by foreign interests, we have steadily deindustrialized and disintegrated our manufacturing. We have steadily returned to the status of an impoverished colonial economy based on exports of unprocessed raw material and service provision.
It's been a disaster. Trump is right; but Trump acts in the interests of the American People. We need someone to act boldly and resolutely in the interests of the Canadian People and not some discredited and disingenuous ideology (Free Trade and Monetarism).
But we have this grovelling incompetent weakling as PM, who worships before the idol of the Invisible Hand of the Free Market (and a lot of other New Age gimmicks), which has led to a corporate and fianancial world tyranny. And Justin just isn't smart enough to see it.. or brave enough to do anything about it.
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Canada responds to U.S. tariffs with its own 'countermeasures'
Canada is imposing dollar-for-dollar tariff "countermeasures" on up to $16.6 billion worth of U.S. imports in response to the American decision to make good on its threat of similar tariffs against Canadian-made steel and aluminum.
The tariffs, which apply to a long list of U.S. products that includes everything from flat-rolled steel to playing cards and felt-tipped pens, will go into effect July 1, Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland told a news conference Thursday.
"This is $16.6 billion of retaliation," Freeland said.
"This is the strongest trade action Canada has taken in the post-war era. This is a very strong response, it is a proportionate response, it is perfectly reciprocal. This is a very strong Canadian action in response to a very bad U.S. decision."
Freeland made the announcement alongside Prime Minister Justin Trudeau following word from the White House that the U.S. will slap tariffs on Canadian, Mexican and European Union steel and aluminium as of midnight Thursday night. She called the U.S. measures illegal and counterproductive, and both she and Trudeau expressed how hard it is to imagine how Canada could ever be a national-security threat to an ally as close and important as the United States.
"That Canada could be considered a national-security threat to the United States is inconceivable," said Trudeau, adding that the people of the U.S. are not Canada's target , and that the federal government would far prefer that its hand not be forced.
Canada, Mexico and Europe had been exempted from import duties of 25 per cent on steel and 10 per cent on aluminum when they were first imposed in March, but those exemptions will expire as scheduled on Friday.
"The government of Canada is confident that shared values, geography and common interests will ultimately overcome protectionism," Trudeau said.
"We will always protect Canadian workers and Canadian interests."
Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross confirmed Thursday that the United States would end the temporary exemption on Canadian, Mexican and European Union steel and aluminum as of midnight, as scheduled.
That means that President Donald Trump will be face to face with a number of leaders who have taken retaliatory action against the U.S. when he makes his closely watched Canadian debut at the G7 next week in Quebec.
While the tariffs have had "major, positive effects" on industry jobs and workers, "the Trump Administration's actions underscore its commitment to good-faith negotiations with our allies to enhance our national security while supporting American workers," the White House said in a statement.
Canada, Mexico and Europe had been exempted until June 1 from import duties of 25 per cent on steel and 10 per cent on aluminum when they were first imposed in March. Barring an 11th-hour reprieve, those exemptions will expire as scheduled.
Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne, campaigning in advance of the June 7 provincial election, savaged the U.S. president as she called the tariff measure short-sighted and urged Trudeau "to take the strongest retaliation possible to protect our workers" and industry.
"I think that we've all had just about enough of Donald Trump.... He doesn't seem to get that his bluster and his bullying are costing people real jobs _ in his own country, in Canada and in Ontario," Wynne said.
"I really believe that now the time for talk is done. Donald Trump is a bully and the only way to deal with a bully is to stand up and push back and we have to do that."
During a conference call early Thursday, Ross shrugged off questions about the U.S. facing possible retaliation, or whether the move would negatively affect the G7 meeting. And he said that while he was looking forward to continuing negotiations, the U.S. is making its decision on national security grounds - a justification Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland has dismissed as absurd.
In the case of Canada and Mexico, Ross said the decision was based on a lack of progress in the ongoing talks to update the North American Free Trade Agreement.
"As to Canada, Mexico, you will recall that the reason for the deferral had been pending the outcome of the NAFTA talks," he said.
"Those talks are taking longer than we had hoped. There is no longer a very precise date when they may be concluded" so they were added to the tariff list, he said.
If Canada and Mexico choose to take retaliatory measures, it will not affect the ability to keep renegotiating NAFTA as a separate track, he added.
"If any of these parties does retaliate, that does not mean that there cannot be continuing negotiations," Ross said. "They're not mutually exclusive behaviours."
The long-threatened tactic is sure to cast a pall over the G7, with some observers saying a G6-plus-one scenario is already shaping up, with Trump as the outlier.
Ross played down the divisions.
"There are periodic disagreements between any two countries on any given set of topics. That doesn't necessarily mean that it derails other discussions at all," he said.
"It all depends on how the various parties react to the circumstances."
European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker, who will be at the G7 table with the seven other country leaders, expressed strong opposition to Thursday's decision.
"The EU believes these unilateral U.S. tariffs are unjustified and at odds with World Trade Organization rules. This is protectionism, pure and simple."
Trump had been widely expected to impose tariffs on European steel and aluminum imports after failing to win concessions from the European Union. Canada and its European allies have spent recent days making a concerted effort to head off the move.
Trudeau and French President Emmanuel Macron made their cases separately Wednesday to dissuade Trump, who is using a national-security clause in U.S. trade law to justify the move. Trudeau and Macron will meet next week in Ottawa before the G7 to talk strategy.
Canada is imposing dollar-for-dollar tariff "countermeasures" on up to $16.6 billion worth of U.S. imports in response to the American decision to make good on its threat of similar tariffs against Canadian-made steel and aluminum.
The tariffs, which apply to a long list of U.S. products that includes everything from flat-rolled steel to playing cards and felt-tipped pens, will go into effect July 1, Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland told a news conference Thursday.
"This is $16.6 billion of retaliation," Freeland said.
"This is the strongest trade action Canada has taken in the post-war era. This is a very strong response, it is a proportionate response, it is perfectly reciprocal. This is a very strong Canadian action in response to a very bad U.S. decision."
Freeland made the announcement alongside Prime Minister Justin Trudeau following word from the White House that the U.S. will slap tariffs on Canadian, Mexican and European Union steel and aluminium as of midnight Thursday night. She called the U.S. measures illegal and counterproductive, and both she and Trudeau expressed how hard it is to imagine how Canada could ever be a national-security threat to an ally as close and important as the United States.
"That Canada could be considered a national-security threat to the United States is inconceivable," said Trudeau, adding that the people of the U.S. are not Canada's target , and that the federal government would far prefer that its hand not be forced.
Canada, Mexico and Europe had been exempted from import duties of 25 per cent on steel and 10 per cent on aluminum when they were first imposed in March, but those exemptions will expire as scheduled on Friday.
"The government of Canada is confident that shared values, geography and common interests will ultimately overcome protectionism," Trudeau said.
"We will always protect Canadian workers and Canadian interests."
Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross confirmed Thursday that the United States would end the temporary exemption on Canadian, Mexican and European Union steel and aluminum as of midnight, as scheduled.
That means that President Donald Trump will be face to face with a number of leaders who have taken retaliatory action against the U.S. when he makes his closely watched Canadian debut at the G7 next week in Quebec.
While the tariffs have had "major, positive effects" on industry jobs and workers, "the Trump Administration's actions underscore its commitment to good-faith negotiations with our allies to enhance our national security while supporting American workers," the White House said in a statement.
Canada, Mexico and Europe had been exempted until June 1 from import duties of 25 per cent on steel and 10 per cent on aluminum when they were first imposed in March. Barring an 11th-hour reprieve, those exemptions will expire as scheduled.
Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne, campaigning in advance of the June 7 provincial election, savaged the U.S. president as she called the tariff measure short-sighted and urged Trudeau "to take the strongest retaliation possible to protect our workers" and industry.
"I think that we've all had just about enough of Donald Trump.... He doesn't seem to get that his bluster and his bullying are costing people real jobs _ in his own country, in Canada and in Ontario," Wynne said.
"I really believe that now the time for talk is done. Donald Trump is a bully and the only way to deal with a bully is to stand up and push back and we have to do that."
During a conference call early Thursday, Ross shrugged off questions about the U.S. facing possible retaliation, or whether the move would negatively affect the G7 meeting. And he said that while he was looking forward to continuing negotiations, the U.S. is making its decision on national security grounds - a justification Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland has dismissed as absurd.
In the case of Canada and Mexico, Ross said the decision was based on a lack of progress in the ongoing talks to update the North American Free Trade Agreement.
"As to Canada, Mexico, you will recall that the reason for the deferral had been pending the outcome of the NAFTA talks," he said.
"Those talks are taking longer than we had hoped. There is no longer a very precise date when they may be concluded" so they were added to the tariff list, he said.
If Canada and Mexico choose to take retaliatory measures, it will not affect the ability to keep renegotiating NAFTA as a separate track, he added.
"If any of these parties does retaliate, that does not mean that there cannot be continuing negotiations," Ross said. "They're not mutually exclusive behaviours."
The long-threatened tactic is sure to cast a pall over the G7, with some observers saying a G6-plus-one scenario is already shaping up, with Trump as the outlier.
Ross played down the divisions.
"There are periodic disagreements between any two countries on any given set of topics. That doesn't necessarily mean that it derails other discussions at all," he said.
"It all depends on how the various parties react to the circumstances."
European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker, who will be at the G7 table with the seven other country leaders, expressed strong opposition to Thursday's decision.
"The EU believes these unilateral U.S. tariffs are unjustified and at odds with World Trade Organization rules. This is protectionism, pure and simple."
Trump had been widely expected to impose tariffs on European steel and aluminum imports after failing to win concessions from the European Union. Canada and its European allies have spent recent days making a concerted effort to head off the move.
Trudeau and French President Emmanuel Macron made their cases separately Wednesday to dissuade Trump, who is using a national-security clause in U.S. trade law to justify the move. Trudeau and Macron will meet next week in Ottawa before the G7 to talk strategy.
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Canada hits back at U.S. with dollar-for-dollar tariffs on steel, aluminum, maple syrup
Canada hits back at U.S. with dollar-for-dollar tariffs on steel, aluminum, maple syrup | CBC News
Sooo what does the CDN contingency of the Trump Cult think about this?? Support Trump as usual........or defend CDA?? Perhaps they should seriously think about changing their citizenships & moving to Trump land.
Trump's (insane ) abuse of power is just beginning. we ain't seen nuthin yet. Mexico is reacting. The UE EU is reacting.......
Another Tyrannical trump hand grenade thrown out for dramatic effect regardless of how many it hurts.
This has the flavor of revenge. (NOT getting exactly what HE waNTS IN nafta.......ETC.
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rEVENGE IS THE THEME OF MANY OF HIS DECISIONS. jUST LIKE GRANTING THE FOUR PARDONS TODAY.........ALL OF WHOM WERE TIED TO cOOMEY.......WHO HE DESPISES. ( AFTER ALL cOOMEY HURT HIS FEELINGS BY SPEAKING THE facts AND tRUTH.
Canada hits back at U.S. with dollar-for-dollar tariffs on steel, aluminum, maple syrup
Canada hits back at U.S. with dollar-for-dollar tariffs on steel, aluminum, maple syrup | CBC News
Sooo what does the CDN contingency of the Trump Cult think about this?? Support Trump as usual........or defend CDA?? Perhaps they should seriously think about changing their citizenships & moving to Trump land.
Trump's (insane ) abuse of power is just beginning. we ain't seen nuthin yet. Mexico is reacting. The UE EU is reacting.......
Another Tyrannical trump hand grenade thrown out for dramatic effect regardless of how many it hurts.
This has the flavor of revenge. (NOT getting exactly what HE waNTS IN nafta.......ETC.
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rEVENGE IS THE THEME OF MANY OF HIS DECISIONS. jUST LIKE GRANTING THE FOUR PARDONS TODAY.........ALL OF WHOM WERE TIED TO cOOMEY.......WHO HE DESPISES. ( AFTER ALL cOOMEY HURT HIS FEELINGS BY SPEAKING THE facts AND tRUTH.
Yeah, baby! Let's get it on!
I don't like Trump much. But credit where due.
He did the right thing striking Syria. . . twice.
He did the right thing showing what is for him remarkable patience with trying to get North Korea to negotiate seriously.
And he's doing the right thing now. You want the tariffs lifted? Quit acting as a transshipping station for dumped Chinese metal and drop your own protectionist policies. Have a glass of milk.
I don't like Trump much. But credit where due.
He did the right thing striking Syria. . . twice.
He did the right thing showing what is for him remarkable patience with trying to get North Korea to negotiate seriously.
And he's doing the right thing now. You want the tariffs lifted? Quit acting as a transshipping station for dumped Chinese metal and drop your own protectionist policies. Have a glass of milk.
Knock your dick off. I only buy Vermont maple syrup, and have only ever bought Vermont maple syrup.
Tell you what. You replace the two Brits, the Kraut, and the Canuck judges on "America's Got Talent" with four AMERICAN judges, and we'll talk.
By slapping that tariff, the US is just hurting the US consumer. Canada should just unilaterally drop all tariffs and then start to negotiate a more comprehensive free-trade agreement with the US and other countries starting with that as a base line.
We should also drop all protectionist non-tariff policies too.
We should also drop all protectionist non-tariff policies too.
And keep your shitty singers, actors, and "comedians" in your ice-bound shitho. . . I mean, country.
Seriously, you had Tragically Hip and what did you send us? Celine Dion, Bryan Adams, and Nickelback.
Y'all're lucky we didn't NUKE your frosty asses!