US Assassinates Iranian Military General

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Report: Trump Cited GOP Senate Impeachment Pressure As Reason to Kill Soleimani

Deep inside a long, detailed Wall Street Journal report about President Trump’s foreign policy advisers is an explosive nugget: “Mr. Trump, after the strike, told associates he was under pressure to deal with Gen. Soleimani from GOP senators he views as important supporters in his coming impeachment trial in the Senate, associates said.” This is a slightly stronger iteration of a fact the New York Times reported three days ago, to wit, “pointed out to one person who spoke to him on the phone last week that he had been pressured to take a harder line on Iran by some Republican senators whose support he needs now more than ever amid an impeachment battle.”
This would not mean Trump ordered the strike entirely, or even primarily, in order to placate Senate Republicans. But it does constitute an admission that domestic political considerations influenced his decision. That would, of course, constitute a grave dereliction of duty. Trump is so cynical he wouldn’t even recognize that making foreign policy decisions influenced by impeachment is the kind of thing he shouldn’t say out loud. Of course, using his foreign policy authority for domestic political gain is the offense Trump is being impeached for. It would be characteristically Trumpian to compound the offense as part of his efforts to avoid accountability for it.


More: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...d-impeachment-pressure-to-kill-soleimani.html


As Tensions With Iran Escalated, Trump Opted for Most Extreme Measure


While senior officials argue the drone strike was warranted to prevent future attacks, some in the administration remain skeptical about the rationale for the attack.


More: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/04/us/politics/trump-suleimani.html

 

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Record-keeping can be shaky, especially in developing countries.
It is not just that........ getting accurate numbers and facts is hard following such a horrific incident. The problem too is the pressure by the media and others to get as much info as fast as possible........and that leads to errors. The variable is the integrity of the place the incident occurred.....and the willingness to share info.
 

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It is not just that........ getting accurate numbers and facts is hard following such a horrific incident. The problem too is the pressure by the media and others to get as much info as fast as possible........and that leads to errors. The variable is the integrity of the place the incident occurred.....and the willingness to share info.
All of that, too. The gruesome business of matching body parts, counting up the actual number of bodies, and identifying them, is a job I'm very, very glad I don't have. I think between the damage, the uncertainty, and the dishonesty all around, it will be months before we have the exact, full roster.
 

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All of that, too. The gruesome business of matching body parts, counting up the actual number of bodies, and identifying them, is a job I'm very, very glad I don't have. I think between the damage, the uncertainty, and the dishonesty all around, it will be months before we have the exact, full roster.
agree completely...and what you describe is probably only a portion of the gruesome nature of the scene. It takes a special kind of grit to handle that job. We (the collective ) might want to learn some patience ......when waiting for more accurate info. It is very hard for relatives and friends....... and one can underhand that.
 

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Why Pushback On Iran Was Important

I think the neocons, Bernie Bros, Chomskyists and others are wrong on some key issues.

 

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Pompeo Admits No "Imminent Threat," Boeing Emails Reveal 737 Issues & 60 Afghans Killed By US Drone
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/showthread.php?p=2808044#post2808044

Mike Pompeo admitted he didn't know 'precisely when' and where Iran was planning attacks used to justify killing Soleimani
https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-pompeo-imminent-attack-from-iran-threat-war-powers-act-2020-1

Pompeo again declines to present evidence of 'imminent' threat that led to strike against Iranian general
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/07/politics/pompeo-iran-briefing/index.html

Told ya this tard was, as usual with chicken hawk tards, full of crap and bugs and worms.

ziotards eh?
 

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Why Pushback On Iran Was Important

I think the neocons, Bernie Bros, Chomskyists and others are wrong on some key issues.

Funny thing........Iran wanted S Hussein gone from Itaq.......and the US did it for them.

Now.......the US has turned Iraq away from the US because of HOW this barbaric assassination was carried out and where. Putting Iraq in the middle of this mess does not help the US or Iraq......but might help Iran a lot more.

Actions like this create consequences.....
 

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Funny thing........Iran wanted S Hussein gone from Itaq.......and the US did it for them.
Now.......the US has turned Iraq away from the US because of HOW this barbaric assassination was carried out and where. Putting Iraq in the middle of this mess does not help the US or Iraq......but might help Iran a lot more.
Actions like this create consequences.....

The US didn't capture Saddam for Iran.

What's barbaric about killing Soleimani? This was a guy viewed as a terrorist by the US, EU and UN.
 

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The US didn't capture Saddam for Iran.

What's barbaric about killing Soleimani? This was a guy viewed as a terrorist by the US, EU and UN.
Removing Hussein benefited Iran.......... even if the motive was american.


What happened to bringing this terrorist to international court??......and behave like a civilized law abiding nation. All assassination are barbaric and a form of terrorism. The world has laws for these criminals..........but the US finds executions like this just more expedient. and more dramatic......sensationalist. The law abiding way takes longer....... but is more civilized The US seems to have made itself judge jury and executioner and does it in one move.
 

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Removing Hussein benefited Iran.......... even if the motive was american.
What happened to bringing this terrorist to international court??......and behave like a civilized law abiding nation. All assassination are barbaric and a form of terrorism. The world has laws for these criminals..........but the US finds executions like this just more expedient. and more dramatic......sensationalist. The law abiding way takes longer....... but is more civilized The US seems to have made itself judge jury and executioner and does it in one move.

You would have cried had Hitler been assassinated by the Allies.
 

Walter

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There was no assassination. There was a killing on the battlefield.
 

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Got a citation for that?

It's not true? How could US forces use the base autonomously without the designation?


Hate to burst your bubble, TM............but that was then and this is now. We were but participants in a European conflict.
It is not the skill of our troops that is in question rather it is Canada's ability to provide them with all the tools they need to actually fight a war. Fact is, we don't.

I totally agree, outside of special forces we are all talk, and hope the US/Brits. will carry the ball.
 

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Funny thing........Iran wanted S Hussein gone from Itaq.......and the US did it for them.

Now.......the US has turned Iraq away from the US because of HOW this barbaric assassination was carried out and where. Putting Iraq in the middle of this mess does not help the US or Iraq......but might help Iran a lot more.

Actions like this create consequences.....
Funny thing? Your geopolitical knowledge has all the depth of piss on a plate. I guess all of Salami's and Iran's actions in the Mid-East were supposed to be consequence-free?


May 2019- Iran attacks oil tankers in the Gulf. Trump downplays it.


June 2019- Iran shoots down US drone. Trump downplays it.


July 2019- Iran seizes British oil tanker. Trump does nothing.


Sep. 2019- Iran attacks Saudi state run oil company. No response from Trump


Dec. 2019- Iranian-backed militants attack US bases in Iraq.


Jan 2020- Failed attack on US embassy in Iraq by Iranian-backed militants.


Jan. 2020- US airstrike in Baghdad kills Iranian "general"/terrorist.


Jan 2020- Morons in the public and media are crying that Trump is trying to start a war. While tards like you whine about provocation from Trump. What are you, stupid or something? So the burning question is; How many times can Iran attack US assets and allies before it's okay to retaliate? Do you have a specific number or is your raging TDS so out of control that you simply don't care?
 
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Walter

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Funny thing? Your geopolitical knowledge has all the depth of piss on a plate. I guess all of Salami's and Iran's actions in the Mid-East were supposed to be consequence-free?


May 2019- Iran attacks oil tankers in the Gulf. Trump downplays it.


June 2019- Iran shoots down US drone. Trump downplays it.


July 2019- Iran seizes British oil tanker. Trump does nothing.


Sep. 2019- Iran attacks Saudi state run oil company. No response from Trump


Dec. 2019- Iranian-backed militants attack US bases in Iraq.


Jan 2020- Failed attack on US embassy in Iraq by Iranian-backed militants.


Jan. 2020- US airstrike in Baghdad kills Iranian "general"/terrorist.


Jan 2020- Morons in the public and media are crying that Trump is trying to start a war. While tards like you whine about provocation from Trump. What are you, stupid or something? So the burning question is; How many times can Iran attack US assets and allies before it's okay to retaliate? Do you have a specific number or is your raging TDS so out of control that you simply don't care?
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