The Forgotten Holocaust Remembered

[ironsides]

How many Jews were killed in the Holocaust?

Since 1945-46, the most commonly cited figure for the total number of Jews killed has been approximately six million. This figure, first given at the Nuremberg Tribunal, has been confirmed again and again by later research.
The Holocaust commemoration center, the Yad Vashem Holocaust Martyrs' and Heroes' Remembrance Authority in Jerusalem, comments: There is no precise figure for the number of Jews killed in the Holocaust. The figure commonly used is the six million established by the Nuremberg Tribunal in 1946 and repeated later by Adolf Eichmann, a senior SS official. Most research confirms that the number of victims was between five and six million. Early calculations range from 5.1 million (Professor Raul Hilberg) to 5.95 million (Jacob Leschinsky). More recent research, by Professor Yisrael Gutman and Dr. Robert Rozett in the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust, estimates the Jewish losses at 5.59-5.86 million, and a study headed by Dr. Wolfgang Benz presents a range from 5.29-6 million. The main sources for these statistics are comparisons of prewar censuses with postwar censuses and population estimates. Nazi documentation containing partial data on various deportations and murders is also used. We estimate that Yad Vashem currently has somewhat more than four million names of victims that are accessible.

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There are people who for reasons of their own deny genocide, whether that committed by the Nazis against the Jews, or by the Ottoman Empire against the Armenians. The most common reason is a desire to rehabilitate the perpetrators and to mock the survivors and their descendants.
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WikiAnswers - How many Jews were killed in the Holocaust

Since when has the UN been favorable towards Israel?

 

[darkbeaver]

"There are people who for reasons of their own deny genocide, whether that committed by the Nazis against the Jews, or by the Ottoman Empire against the Armenians. The most common reason is a desire to rehabilitate the perpetrators and to mock the survivors and their descendants. "

Our by the Israelis against the Palestinians or by the Americans against the Iraqis. Zionist bull****. The most common reason is an interest in the truth and with the truth the holocaust is revealed as something else entirely, an incentive to move to Israel, an incentive designed by zionists.

 

[Cliffy]

"There are people who for reasons of their own deny genocide, whether that committed by the Nazis against the Jews, or by the Ottoman Empire against the Armenians. The most common reason is a desire to rehabilitate the perpetrators and to mock the survivors and their descendants. "

Our by the Israelis against the Palestinians or by the Americans against the Iraqis. Zionist bull****. The most common reason is an interest in the truth and with the truth the holocaust is revealed as something else entirely, an incentive to move to Israel, an incentive designed by zionists.

You forgot our own holocaust against our aboriginal people. I find it bizarre that those who are adamant about calling the Jewish holocaust deniers names will at the same time deny our own. 100 million dead in the first 100 years of invasion! How many more died in the next 400 years?

 

[Spade]

Thats napalm.

That's right.
From Wikipedia
"The Holocaust (from the Greek ὁλόκαυστον (holókauston): holos, "whole" and kaustos, "burnt")"

 

[Cliffy]

That's right.
From Wikipedia
"The Holocaust (from the Greek ὁλόκαυστον (holókauston): holos, "whole" and kaustos, "burnt")"

napalm - made in Canada, you say? Pity!

 

[Spade]

Remembering Nagasaki

 

[ironsides]

At the time, what would you have done knowing that you had the means to end the war, in one week or a couple more years.

 

[EagleSmack]

At the time, what would you have done knowing that you had the means to end the war, in one week or a couple more years.

Do you expect an honest answer?

 

[Colpy]

You forgot our own holocaust against our aboriginal people. I find it bizarre that those who are adamant about calling the Jewish holocaust deniers names will at the same time deny our own. 100 million dead in the first 100 years of invasion! How many more died in the next 400 years?

Sigh.

Idiotic

DISEASE!!!!!!

There is a difference between a directed nuclear attack........institutionalized industrialized mass murder......and the unintentional and uncontrolable spread of disease.

 

[petros]

Any justification of mass murder of any form is just plain bizzare.

 

[Colpy]

Any justification of mass murder of any form is just plain bizzare.

True enough

But plague is not murder.......in the Americas at least, it was not intentional....but it was 90% plus lethal......usually it was measles, in central and south America at least.

 

[ironsides]

Do you expect an honest answer?

Not really, time and circumstances have softened the memories of that time.

 

[ironsides]

Any justification of mass murder of any form is just plain bizzare.

War is bizarre, all rules for so called civilized man are null and void,. Best war to win a war and save lives is win as soon as possible.

 

[petros]

Name one war that has "saved" lives.

That is like saying there is a peaceful use for nukes.

The only way to save lives is to never fight to begin with.

 

[gerryh]

Sigh.

Idiotic

DISEASE!!!!!!

There is a difference between a directed nuclear attack........institutionalized industrialized mass murder......and the unintentional and uncontrolable spread of disease.

sorry, the spread of disease amongst First Nations was not always "unintentional".

The English say it is a pity to expend men against the Indians and they introduce germ warfare. At Fort Pitt a peace delegation of Indians are given smallpox in gifts of little silver boxes being told it was medicine but not to be opened until they return to their villages. Tens of thousand of Indians are murdered under a flag of truce by the barbaric English. A British Commander justified the action by saying by sending germs instead of soldiers he said he is saving the lives of 'better men'. Traci suggest this reference to a little silver box likely is being confused with an incident six years earlier in 1757, with the Ottowas. The gifts given were "two blankets and an handkerchief out of the smallpox hospital" as stated by William Trent. See 1757. The United States Government, later would deliberately send smallpox-infected blankets to Indians forced to live on reservations, resulting in the deaths of thousands.

INDIAN HISTORY 1700-1999

 

[darkbeaver]

John Wayne never mentioned that in any of his films.

 

[petros]

The Doolittle Raids were far deadlier attacks against the citizens than the nukes but equally as evil in nature.

 

[L Gilbert]

Name one war that has "saved" lives.

That is like saying there is a peaceful use for nukes.

The only way to save lives is to never fight to begin with.

Dead right, Petros. Killing for peace is like screwing for virginity. (Bumper sticker on wifey's Dakota).

 

[Cliffy]

Sigh.

Idiotic

DISEASE!!!!!!

There is a difference between a directed nuclear attack........institutionalized industrialized mass murder......and the unintentional and uncontrolable spread of disease.

The Spanish and the Brits murdered millions with and without disease. Ever hear of the March of Tears of the Cherokee? Thousands died. There are many more such incidences. Can't remember off the top of my head all the massacres of Indians at the hands of the US cavalry, but there were plenty, ending at Wounded Knee. In Canada we were a little more civilized, we just poisoned them with rancid food promised by treaty and sterilized thousands, abused and raped and sometimes murdered them (50,000 missing without a trace) in residential schools. Your knowledge of history comes from the "official" propaganda of His Story, just like you get most of your "information" from corporate owned mass media. I bet you are planning to get your mandatory Swine Flew shot like a good little boy.

 

[Colpy]

The Spanish and the Brits murdered millions with and without disease. Ever hear of the March of Tears of the Cherokee? Thousands died. There are many more such incidences. Can't remember off the top of my head all the massacres of Indians at the hands of the US cavalry, but there were plenty, ending at Wounded Knee. In Canada we were a little more civilized, we just poisoned them with rancid food promised by treaty and sterilized thousands, abused and raped and sometimes murdered them (50,000 missing without a trace) in residential schools. Your knowledge of history comes from the "official" propaganda of His Story, just like you get most of your "information" from corporate owned mass media. I bet you are planning to get your mandatory Swine Flew shot like a good little boy.

None of this happened in the 16th century, which is what we are discussing.

No I think the Swine Flu panic is silly......

I also think those who believe that vaccines are a gov't plot do indeed need medication........