Sixth Annual Israeli Apartheid Week

[selin]

You seem to hae left a few off the list.

Let me help you out.

Israel - China - Russia - Cuba - Venezuela - Saudi Arabia - North Korea - Iran - Egypt - Sudan - Turkey - Many African countries - Vietnam - Sri Lanka - Thailand - Surinam (Formerly Burma) Cambodia - Algeria -Armenia - Kazakhstan - Afghanistan - Iraq - Yemen - Bangladesh - India - Kyrgyzstan - Nigeria - Pakistan - Uganda- Zimbabwe - West Bank - Gaza Strip- Malaysia -Syria - Laos -Eritrea -Eithopia - Saudi Arabia - many of the former Republics of the failed USSR - Just too name a few -

what do you mean with putting also Turkey in that list?

 

[Goober]

what do you mean with putting also Turkey in that list?

Selin
Presently you have a large number of Senior Military officers that are charged for conspiring to plan an overthow of the Govt.

How many journalists are thrown in jail because they have written articles that are not pleasing to the Govt

Ask a Kurd how he / she is treated in turkey.

 

[Johnnny]

who are the trolls who voted against the Palestinians??

 

[Johnnny]

what do you mean with putting also Turkey in that list?

ask the armenians and kurds, and go back a little further and well you know

i voted everyone are human beings and the Palestinians deserve food clothing water, shelter education and all that other **** you need to have a happy life with

 

[darkbeaver]

Selin
Presently you have a large number of Senior Military officers that are charged for conspiring to plan an overthow of the Govt.

How many journalists are thrown in jail because they have written articles that are not pleasing to the Govt

Ask a Kurd how he / she is treated in turkey.

None of the others are presently facing war crimes, none are actively conducting genocide, and none are in the publics eye so much as zionist Israel, by their own design, at their own hand, pushing their own conclusion, sort of a slow state suicide, which they pay billions for. catch-22

 

[Goober]

None of the others are presently facing war crimes, none are actively conducting genocide, and none are in the publics eye so much as zionist Israel, by their own design, at their own hand, pushing their own conclusion, sort of a slow state suicide, which they pay billions for. catch-22

I just named a few where Human Rights do not exist or are at a minimum-

ask the families of the millions of dead, murdered by stravation in North Korea - Ask the families of the 400,000 killed in the Sudan - ask the families of the millions kiled in the Uganda wars -

 

[EagleSmack]

I just named a few where Human Rights do not exist or are at a minimum-

ask the families of the millions of dead, murdered by stravation in North Korea - Ask the families of the 400,000 killed in the Sudan - ask the families of the millions kiled in the Uganda wars -

Not as flashy.

 

[selin]

Selin
Presently you have a large number of Senior Military officers that are charged for conspiring to plan an overthow of the Govt.

How many journalists are thrown in jail because they have written articles that are not pleasing to the Govt

Ask a Kurd how he / she is treated in turkey.

you are right ,now our president is just a bastard who tries to put everyone in jails who are against his actions .Those people in jails are our most reliable men ever-the officers of Turk Army ,their only fault is to protect the Republic from being Arabian countries who use the sharia as law.My country is secular and accepts the freedom for governance ,in every aspect free of any spiritual thing like religion , Turk Republic gives importance to wit more... but that president gathered his votes from kurds, the puritans and some who were deceived...
when it comes to kurds, you know nothing about that matter Goober , and now as a Turk , i feel very bored of hearing from some foreigns such things... a kurd has equal rights with me but when it comes to terrorism, and his supports for terrorists , of course there is special treatment as any country executes his matters when the terrorism begins.There are other nations such as Laz, Çerkez... but they don't complain of anything and happy to live together with the equal rights...

Goober, our precious(!) president has plans to make the terrorist and their fans who have harmed MUCH to our citizens and country both materially and pschologically relieve.

we have had sad days nowadays.

 

[selin]

None of the others are presently facing war crimes, none are actively conducting genocide, and none are in the publics eye so much as zionist Israel, by their own design, at their own hand, pushing their own conclusion, sort of a slow state suicide, which they pay billions for. catch-22

I agree with you, maybe Turkey has bad times nowadays but there are no genocide or war crimes and Turkey and the others cannot be compared to Israel...

 

[Goober]

you are right ,now our president is just a bastard who tries to put everyone in jails who are against his actions .Those people in jails are our most reliable men ever-the officers of Turk Army ,their only fault is to protect the Republic from being Arabian countries who use the sharia as law.My country is secular and accepts the freedom for governance ,in every aspect free of any spiritual thing like religion , Turk Republic gives importance to wit more... but that president gathered his votes from kurds, the puritans and some who were deceived...
when it comes to kurds, you know nothing about that matter Goober , and now as a Turk , i feel very bored of hearing from some foreigns such things... a kurd has equal rights with me but when it comes to terrorism, and his supports for terrorists , of course there is special treatment as any country executes his matters when the terrorism begins.There are other nations such as Laz, Çerkez... but they don't complain of anything and happy to live together with the equal rights...

Goober, our precious(!) president has plans to make the terrorist and their fans who have harmed MUCH to our citizens and country both materially and pschologically relieve.

we have had sad days nowadays.

Selin
To say I know nothing of the Kurdish problem is incorrect.

It was against the law to teach Kurdish - the Govt tried to forcibly assimilate a culture - that never works -

I am sure you are aware that the average Kurd did not have the same rights as a Turkish citizen.

I am well aware of how the Military is held in such high regard by many citizens - I am also well aware of the more 30, 000 that died during the war with the PKK - I am also well aware that not only the PKK committed War Crimes -

Yet the Army has never been charged - You know that as well as I do -

I am also well aware of the division within the Army itself as to how to work - deal with the Govt due to fears of importing Sharia and other Islamic laws-

I am well aware the freedom of the press does not really exist in Turkey - It is highly restricted as to what they can offer as opinion -

Criticism of the State is well protected at the detriment of Human Rights and the presses inability to inform the public of corruption along with a number of other topics that are against the law.

 

[selin]

Selin
To say I know nothing of the Kurdish problem is incorrect.

It was against the law to teach Kurdish - the Govt tried to forcibly assimilate a culture - that never works -

I am sure you are aware that the average Kurd did not have the same rights as a Turkish citizen.

I am well aware of how the Military is held in such high regard by many citizens - I am also well aware of the more 30, 000 that died during the war with the PKK - I am also well aware that not only the PKK committed War Crimes -

Yet the Army has never been charged - You know that as well as I do -

I am also well aware of the division within the Army itself as to how to work - deal with the Govt due to fears of importing Sharia and other Islamic laws-

I am well aware the freedom of the press does not really exist in Turkey - It is highly restricted as to what they can offer as opinion -

Criticism of the State is well protected at the detriment of Human Rights and the presses inability to inform the public of corruption along with a number of other topics that are against the law.

you know a lot but not so much as i do, anyway if i am right, i don't need to prove anything, i am sick and tired of saying the same things everytime ...

 

[Goober]

you know a lot but not so much as i do, anyway if i am right, i don't need to prove anything, i am sick and tired of saying the same things everytime ...

Well then tell me where I am wrong - the point of a discussion is not to win but to learn is it not?

 

[darkbeaver]

I just named a few where Human Rights do not exist or are at a minimum-

ask the families of the millions of dead, murdered by stravation in North Korea - Ask the families of the 400,000 killed in the Sudan - ask the families of the millions kiled in the Uganda wars -

When they broadcast their arrogance as loud and often as Israel, we will hear them. Surly you understand the fundamentals of marketing. As you make us aware of Israel we become aware of Israel. What more could you want? You're dedication will ensure that the eyes of the many all turn to Israel, for better or worse. Responsibility finds its home sooner or later. That is the law of stuff.

 

[selin]

Well then tell me where I am wrong - the point of a discussion is not to win but to learn is it not?

you are wrong at the point of the equal rights.. believe me ,they have the same exam , benefit from the state's budget as equal , go to any school,university , enlarge their businesses ,pay the same tax ( sometimes they are very talented at evating tax),have one vote for election as we do but there is something that i should talk about-they like to live without tax and any simple payment (bills) to state and they don't like laws of the state except for the rules of their tribes which are as same quality as Africans' tribes and they are tend to kill anybody for the rules of those tribes and object to the laws blah blah blah.they want the freedom for their primitive actions
(if you are interested in Turkey, just look at honour killings ,drug traditions etc and see who are the leaders of that bad staff?), that is why they started the terrorism .my citizens are afraid of their primitive behaviours and actions as well and exept our some kurdish citizens, they make us mad.

 

[earth_as_one]

but , nobody has the enough wit as you have to understand that Zionizm and Nazizm are as same as twins are . What i cannot understand is that if a nation endure massacre in the past , how can that nation not develop empathy but only think to kill for their bloody profits as Hitler's? how can they think that they endured much ,so they have the rights to make those people endure that massacre, too? is it fair? they should have thought that we endured so much ,and we should be the representatives who are grandchildren of innocents slaughtered by bastards,we won't do anything harmful to humanity, we wiil be the nation stand before badness and be leader of goodness but in place of that , they try to slaughter better than Nazists.

and the pictures have a lot of messages to those who can understand deeply.

I also find it difficult to understand how people who suffered oppression and injustice would do the same thing as soon as they get a chance. But I am also aware that many of Jews and Israelis oppose Zionism for precisely the reasons you mention.

Check out these two links:

Sir Gerald Kaufman, British MP, Jewish relative of Nazi holocaust victims
YouTube - UK Jewish MP: Israel acting like Nazis in Gaza

Norman G. Finklestein
Jewish, academic, author, both parents survived the Nazi Holocaust
Norman G. Finkelstein

Some Israelis and Jews also are willing to risk their lives in the struggle for Palestinian Freedom and Justice. For example non-violent resistence at the Bi'lin worksite of shame...
Friends of Freedom and Justice Bilin Official Website

Also on page one I referenced several Jewish and Israeli organizations which fight for Palestinian freedom and justice.

 

[DurkaDurka]

I am celebrating this important event by wearing Egyptian cotton based clothing all week, in solidarity with the Israeli Arabs banished from Israel.

 

[selin]

anyway now our topic is about Israel not Turkey and his problems, you are right earth_as_one ,there are also some Jews and Israelis opposing to Zionism ,too but there are also someones who stand by Zionism even they are not Israelis, then if you have no tie (being an Israelis isn't also an explanation to defend Zionsm), why do they insist on defending cruelties of Isarel?

 

[DurkaDurka]

There's cruelties abound in Israeli/Palestine, both equally barbaric. Yet, when the Palestinians commit them, it's fluffed up as being self determination or some other BS catchword of the day yet any military offensive committed by Israel is a war crime.

 

[Goober]

anyway now our topic is about Israel not Turkey and his problems, you are right earth_as_one ,there are also some Jews and Israelis opposing to Zionism ,too but there are also someones who stand by Zionism even they are not Israelis, then if you have no tie (being an Israelis isn't also an explanation to defend Zionsm), why do they insist on defending cruelties of Isarel?

Selin

The situation in the Mid East - Israel - Palestinians - is all the blame to be laid at Israel's feet?

 

[earth_as_one]

I am celebrating this important event by wearing Egyptian cotton based clothing all week, in solidarity with the Israeli Arabs banished from Israel.

Yes, Israel has token Arab citizens. The Zionists never succeeded in cleansing them all, and granted a minority of these people partial citizenship and rights. Zionists treat their Arab partial citizens about the same as how Apartheid South African treated "coloreds". For the moment they are allowed to reside in Israel. These people cannot build new homes. Where they can live and work is also restricted. They recieve less funding for services, like education, sewer, water, electricity, than full Israeli citizens.
Arab citizens of Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Eventually these people will loose Israeli citizenship and be transferred to concentration camps for Israeli non-citizens.




Israeli Arabs living in Jerusalem have been getting extra special treatment lately, and are currently being deported out of their homes.
ETNIC CLEASING IN JERUSALEM

Your post ignores the 800,000 people Zionists cleansed off their land back in 1947-48, at the begining of the Zionist ethnic cleansing war. The Zionists displaced more people in 1967. Since then, Zionists raze the homes of their non-citizens one at a time. Its been going on daily for 40 years now. As the non-citizens with no rights loose their land they have been squeezed into ever smaller walled in ghettos. If any of them complain, they and their family members can be arbitrarily arrested, beaten, tortured and executed.

Genocide in Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing in the West Bank
Ilan Pappe, Jewish Israeli historian and academic
Genocide In Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing In The West Bank By Ilan Pappe

Recent Poll shows majority of Israelis support ethnic cleansing:
53% Of Israeli's Favor Ethnic Cleansing                  : Information Clearing House -  ICH

"The Ultimate Aim is the Transfer of Arab-Israelis"
Ethnic Cleansing and Israel

By CONN HALLINAN

One of the more disturbing developments in the Middle East is a growing consensus among Israelis that it would acceptable to expel—in the words of advocates “transfer”—its Arab citizens to either a yet as unformed Palestinian state or the neighboring countries of Jordan and Egypt.

Such sentiment is hardly new among Israeli extremists, and it has long been advocated by racist Jewish organizations like Kach, the party of the late Rabbi Meir Kahane, as well as groups like the National Union, which doubled its Knesset representation in the last election.

But “transfer” is no longer the exclusive policy of extremists, as it has increasingly become a part of mainstream political dialogue. “My solution for maintaining a Jewish and democratic state of Israel is to have two nation-states with certain concessions and with clear red lines,” Kadima leader and Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni told a group of Tel Aviv high school students last December, “and among other things, I will be able to approach the Palestinian residents of Israel, those whom we call Israeli Arabs, and tell them, ‘ your national solution lies elsewhere.’”....

Conn Hallinan: Ethnic Cleansing and Israel

October 1989, Human Rights
Israeli Officials Deny Complicity in Torture and Murder of Palestinian-American Boy
Israeli Officials Deny Complicity in Torture and Murder of Palestinian-American Boy

05/05/2009
UN questions Israelis on Palestinian torture allegations
UN questions Israelis on Palestinian torture allegations - Haaretz - Israel News