Rights Group Calls for Cheney Arrest-in Vancouver
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:lol::lol: The best way to protest is to keep your money in your pocket..............like don't buy Cheney's book! :smile:
Good one. You may as well keep those guys and gals. They are so screwed if they come back at this point. Are there still some of them on welfare?
and, boys -what if your right to protest was taken away, would that make you happy?
what harm do they do. they bring our attention to issues, then if we agree with them fine,
but if we don't, just accept that, it is their position, and maybe they have a point, just maybe.
no one really knows for sure.
what harm do they do. they bring our attention to issues, then if we agree with them fine,
but if we don't, just accept that, it is their position, and maybe they have a point, just maybe.
no one really knows for sure.
An excellent way to protest is to write a letter to the editor of the newspaper - not chaining yourself to a piece of logging equipment so the loggers lose pay and can't make their mortgage payment. It also helps a person's credibility if a protestor gets her/his facts straight. We don't know whether Cheney actually did any water boarding and if it was on the likes of the guys who flew the jets into the W.T.C. all the power to him. I feel sorry for the 2800 killed and their families..............I couldn't care less about terrorists.
Yes, it is. Is that what you are doing?? Seems that has to be done in conjunction with other actions. actions a tad more "visible".
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Of course some could care less if "terrorists" were waterboarded and otherwise "tortured". The problem is , that it is still barbaric and not a civilized example to those that do this as SOP. Do you want there to be no difference between "us" and 'them"..??
Civilization means you treat all humans humanely. Or would you prefer prejudicial selection ......something like occurred with the Nazis.??
Furthermore........ even terrorists are entitled to their day in court. From those procedings we can learn so much more about how they think, how they operate and what motivates them to join such radical groups that foster such radical acts.
and NO , we don't know all that. Seems KILL ON site is all "we" know.....regardless of how many others die along with them.
In a perfect world Cheney would have been jailed long time ago. But true civilization has not reached all parts of the political spectrum.
Ask yourselves: what would the west do and say , if someone in one of the nations the "west" has in its gunsights.....behaved like Cheney did........and what he endorsed . He did not have to perform the act hands on.
Or is there a secret pleasure with some ........in seeing someone get away with as many uncivilized atrocities as he can. Face it, there is a dark side to everyone. Most just don't admit it
The fact that some protests are occurring is a good thing. It might not achieve their desired objective.....but it makes a statement to the character of the person. Those that condemn these protests are as good as admitting they support the atrocious conduct of the person in question. .We have seen through history this same type of support of criminal political conduct. Until their eyes are opened by some exposed horrific facts.
If someone told me 11 years ago, that one day Americans would support their government spying on them, abducting people and putting them in torture chambers, I wouldn't have believe them.
Me neither. Not in a million years. That is one aspect that I find incredible ..........and unamerican
same with not bringing charges to the Bush regime for the various actions that are inhumane and illegal
what we are seeing is how effective the power of FEAR is over a population. fear of "terrorist " attacks has made the population accept conduct by their gov't that ordinarily would be rejected with an outcry.
This is where we see how effective 9-11 was in giving the gov't license to maintain a constant fear level. and thus introduce policies that ordinarly would never be accepted.
It is totally "unamerican" to be so passively compliant. . And not to question. This last part is very concerning as that suggests they accept everything they are told as "fact" and have lost the confidence to analyse, question on the basis that some jerk will call them "unpatriotic". And everyone knows that a label like that is probably the most offensive one in the US . This type of psychological hold over a population serves only one purpose and groupl. And we have seen the effects of that.
What is tragic is that the US population is not given the breathing space to come to terms with the crime and move on into being a progressive , modern nation it has the potential for. There appears to be a collective paralysis due to fear. and with the constant wars and words about terrorism.......that state is not about to change .
Again: Follow the path to WHO BENEFITS???
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JLM: It is ASSUMED (in a civilized nation) that he would have been legally arrested , on the basis of evidence , and put on trial .
Please don't spin my words to fit your personal prejudice against anything I post. Thank you.
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OKAY! I've been suckered in.......yap yap yap yap yap I couldn't take it any more.
So listen carefully, I'm only gonna say this once, then I'm gonna get out the rolled-up newspaper.
BECAUSE WE DON'T ****ING CARE!!!!!
Geezus! Talk about having to state the obvious!
We OWED Gadhafi BIG TIME, soon to be paid in full. If the guys that take over are worse than that idiot, well, so be it.........we will deal with them when it becomes necessary.
As it is, the people of Libya deserve a SHOT at creating their own gov't, and we helped them get that shot..........hopefully, it all works out for the best, the al Queda guys get lost, or shot as arseholes, the Libyans elect a liberal democratic gov't and we all live in peace and brotherhood for evermore.
But don't bet on it.
But Gadhafi will be at best dead, at least deposed.....and we will have paid him back in full for his murder and support of terror.
NEXT!
Right.
Like we did with Bin Laden after the afghan CIA blowback.
Once again, for the fourteenth time, get INFORMED......you are less apt to make a fool of yourself.
In Afghanistan, Bin Laden's group considered American aid tainted, and refused to accept it. In other words, the claim that the CIA invented Bin Laden is demonstrably FALSE.
Oh, and all the idiots out there want us to repeat our mistake: which was abandon Afghanistan to the Islamo-loonies after we had our way with her.......
Make up your minds.
What are you talking about?Right.
Like we did with Bin Laden after the afghan CIA blowback.
Is it civillized to watch other humans treat other humans inhumanely?
Right.
Like we did with Bin Laden after the afghan CIA blowback.
Mental... Seriously? How many times has we gone over this?
Not only that, the Afghan fighters made darn sure Bin Laden was kept away from CIA Operatives because of his vocal anti-American stance. Bin Laden ran a group of foreign Arab fighters with his own money.
Over here Buckey - If you wish I will post the questions in a simpler format.
Put up or shut up.
So after reading the below again then be kind enuff to answer the above questions which have been asked before - You tar people with War Criminal - all Canadians - and I am sure it is directed at Conservativess and Soldiers - My opinion. So Proof -
You read them - - Go the the Palestinian thread -
Palestinian "Unilateral Declaration of Independence"
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Ocean Breeze; JLM:[B said:
That would be your first mistake. Who did he torture? Where did he do the torturing? By what means did he torture? If any torturing was to be done would not it have been done by the military? Me putting words in your mouth??????????????? You do a very good job of that yourself, besides being delusional. :lol: